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    Respecting the Beer

    The smartest podcast for nerdy brewers and beer lovers in under thirty minutes.

    Hosted by owners of McFleshman’s Brewing Co, Bobby and Allison Fleshman with special apparances from Ciceron and historian, Joel Hermansen. Kept on subject by Gary Arndt, host of Everything Everywhere Daily.

    In our first few episodes, we cover the origins of McFleshman’s brewery and brew master, Bobby Fleshman. While studying for a PhD in astrophysics, Bobby fell in love with homebrewing. After consistently winning brewing competitions, he and his wife Allison decided to start a brewery with a different type of experience. Thus McFleshman’s was born!

    Other topics covered include: craft brewing, the chemical make up of beer, the differences between the huge variety of beers, how color affects beer’s taste, homebrewing, starting a brewery, why beer get’s skunked, the origins of hops, the business of brewing, Benedictine Monk’s effect on brewing, Hildegard of Bingen, Charlie Bamforth, Louis Pasteur, contract brewing, remote beer pumping, getting a business loan, brewery operations, creating stand operating procedures, Sierra Nevada Brewing, brewing collaboration, Dry January, Reinhehtsgebot, beer history, New Realm Brewing Co, Mitch Steele, and much more.

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    Latest Episodes:
    BONUS: Bobby Talks Brewing on Upstate Beer Boys Podcast Feb 28, 2025
    Show notes

    Some guy with a microphone just showed up from South Carolina and shoved a microphone in our face... Steven of Upstate Beer Boys Podcast, which covers the beer scene in that beautiful state, interviewed Bobby and other locals on a recent episode.

    Listen to the full conversation here: On the Road Again.......... | Upstate Beer Boys Podcast

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Disaster Stories at Appleton Beer Factory w/ Ben Fogle Feb 24, 2025
    Show notes

    "We forgot to put pressure release valves on the vat..." Ben Fogle of Appleton Beer Factory regals us with stories of mistakes made and lessons learned when it came to opening the brewery.

    Visit Appleton Beer Factory: https://www.appletonbeerfactory.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcoming back Ben Fogle

    00:18 Learning from Brewing Disasters and Failures

    01:40 The Leaking Fermentor Incident

    07:28 Put Valves On Your Pressurized Vats

    10:51 Contamination and Recalls

    15:44 Creative Solutions to Brewing Problems

    16:05 Juicy McJuice Face? Haz-a-tron?

    21:31 Wrapping Up

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Two Breweries, Ten Paces: Collaborating with Competition Feb 17, 2025
    Show notes

    The Fogels of the Appleton Beer Factory and the Fleshmans of McFelshman's share much more than just an alley between their breweries. Explore how competing breweries make collaboration work for them.

    Visit Appleton Beer Factory: https://www.appletonbeerfactory.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcoming Back Ben Fogel of ABF

    00:24 Neighborly Breweries

    02:13 Sharing Resources

    02:53 The Pipe Dream

    06:58 The Genesis of 10 Paces Beer

    07:45 Sour Beer and Bacterial Cultures

    12:51 Hot Sauce Collaboration

    16:37 Scaling Generation Challenges

    17:06 The Lava Lamp: Cheese Curd Beer

    23:04 Future Collaboration Plans?

    27:13 Ben Will Be Back Next Week!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    The Origin of Appleton Beer Factory w/ Ben Fogle Feb 10, 2025
    Show notes

    Our neighbors from the Appleton Beer Factory finally join us! Gary, Bobby, and Allison chat with head brewer, alley sharer, and friend, Ben Fogle, about the origins of ABF's beer, taproom, kitchen, giant steel vats, and more.

    Visit Appleton Beer Factory: https://www.appletonbeerfactory.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Martian Brewing Consultant?

    00:43 Introducing Today's Guest: Ben Fogle

    00:54 Ben's Brewing Journey Begins

    01:15 Family Influence and Early Brewing Days

    02:43 Engineering @ College

    04:22 Building the Brewery: Challenges and Triumphs

    10:20 Opening the Appleton Beer Factory

    11:57 The Brewery's Unique Construction

    13:55 Custom Building ALL Their Equipment

    16:34 First Brewing Experiences

    18:56 Lessons Learned Along the Way

    21:09 Ben Hated Their Kitchen at First

    25:03 And Then Came the Music

    27:44 Ben Will Return!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    The Great Debate: MSB vs 547 Feb 03, 2025
    Show notes

    The great debate of 2025! Gary Arndt and Bobby Fleshman try to keep things civil while Allison Fleshman and Joel Hermansen debate which is better: MSB or 547.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Introducing the Debaters

    00:40 Gary Lays Down the Ground Rules

    01:58 Allison's Case for MSB and Malt

    04:08 Joel's Case for 547 and Hops

    07:15 Mouthfeel?

    18:37 The Bells

    24:20 Which Beer Sells More?

    28:05 The Winner is...

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Welcome to the MCU: McFleshman's Cinematic Universe Jan 27, 2025
    Show notes

    One beer company rises to save you from warm pints.

    (This is a highlight reel from 2024. Enjoy!)

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:03 Welcome to the MCU

    01:42 Evolution of Gary's Intros

    02:54 What is Beer?

    04:08 Early Morning Beer for Allison

    04:43 Henry's Law Interjection

    05:49 Smells Like Bananas

    07:12 Beers Have a Color Fingerprint

    09:00 Joel's is a Redundant Drinker

    11:51 Schrodinger's Pale Ale

    14:57 THE Lukr Faucet

    17:20 The Bachelor Effect

    19:34 Allison IS Gary

    21:52 547 Day Proclamation

    23:36 Respect the Boxed Wine!

    25:58 10 Paces Origin Story

    28:20 Lager's Require a Patient Wife

    30:00 We Stumped Gary!!

    31:24 Smokey and The Bandit and Coors and Butter

    33:57 HOT STUFF KILLS BUGS

    34:16 We Respect Beer Here

    35:23 Pilgrams Drank Beer to Stay Hydrated

    37:00 Nicola Twilley Teaches Us About Expiration Dates

    38:40 Beer Garden Were The Original Refrigerator

    40:51 STATIC CIVILIZATION

    43:15 Fox Cities: A Brewery Destination

    46:48 Breweries Are for Crazy People

    48:18 McFleshman's Will Return

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Retap: Allison's 2024 Favorite Jan 20, 2025
    Show notes

    We're retapping an episode from 2024. This time it's Allison's favorite! The time Gary slept in, and Bobby and Allison took over the reins for a day. Chaos ensued.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Where's Gary?

    00:43 Seasonal Changes and Oktoberfest

    02:18 Apple Cider Production

    07:15 Cherry Cider and Gluten-Free Options

    18:35 Pumpkin Beer: Spice vs. Real Pumpkin

    24:22 Harvesting Hops and Conclusion

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Retap: Bobby's 2024 Favorite Jan 13, 2025
    Show notes

    We're retapping Bobby's favorite episode from last year where Bobby explains the origins of 547 for the first time. New episodes drop in February!

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Producer Note

    00:20 Gary Introduces Bobby and Joel

    00:38 The Story Behind 547

    02:05 What Makes a West Coast IPA?

    03:13 547 Inspiration and Techniques

    05:29 The Evolution of 547

    09:19 Blind Tastings and Popularity

    11:15 THE 547 Experience

    14:22 547 Day Celebration

    19:48 Marketing and Branding

    27:13 Conclusion and Invitation

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    PATREON UNLOCK: Live Q&A From The Prohibition Room Jan 06, 2025
    Show notes

    Unlocked! A live Prohibition Room audience grills Bobby and Allison Fleshman about all things brewing, from minivan deliveries to shiny faucets. Gary Ardnt helps keep things on track as usual.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 2025 Announcements

    00:59 Podcast Overview and Guest Introductions

    01:52 Live Q&A Session Begins

    03:00 Challenges of Starting a Microbrewery

    05:12 Pandemic Impact and Business Adjustments

    05:45 Minivan Story and Business Logistics

    08:11 Shiny Stuff is Expensive

    10:14 Audience Q&A: Beer Brewing Challenges

    11:07 Pirate's Cove: The Signature Beer

    15:23 Tom Petty Tribute and Mural

    17:01 Unexpected Ingredients and On-the-Fly Decisions

    18:54 Naming and Branding Challenges

    19:36 A Newcomer's Question: Starting the Brewery

    20:24 The Journey to Appleton

    24:49 Future Plans for McFleshman's

    30:30 The Luker Faucet: A Quest for Perfect Foam

    33:11 Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    McFleshman's Year in Review: 2024 Dec 30, 2024
    Show notes

    Join Bobby and Allison Fleshman and Joel Hermansen for a recap of McFleshman's Brewing 2024. Gary Arndt asks them about their biggest achievements, challenges, and plans for 2025.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 The Usual Suspects

    00:18 Reflecting on Almost Seven Years of Brewing

    01:06 Beer Production Highlights of the Year

    01:43 Our First Schwarz Beer

    04:00 The Luker Faucet

    06:19 Stepchild

    12:12 Challenges for the Year

    14:27 Dog-Friendly Brewery Issues

    16:58 Tornado: The Rising Star

    17:59 Upcoming Plans for 2025

    20:51 Barrel-Aged Britannia Mice Release

    21:27 Beer Classes

    24:18 New Beer Projects and Collaborations

    24:54 Challenges and Innovations in the Brewing Industry

    27:05 Marketing and Business Realizations

    37:21 A SECOND Location??

    41:34 See you in 2025!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


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