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    Respecting the Beer

    The smartest podcast for nerdy brewers and beer lovers in under thirty minutes.

    Hosted by owners of McFleshman’s Brewing Co, Bobby and Allison Fleshman with special apparances from Ciceron and historian, Joel Hermansen. Kept on subject by Gary Arndt, host of Everything Everywhere Daily.

    In our first few episodes, we cover the origins of McFleshman’s brewery and brew master, Bobby Fleshman. While studying for a PhD in astrophysics, Bobby fell in love with homebrewing. After consistently winning brewing competitions, he and his wife Allison decided to start a brewery with a different type of experience. Thus McFleshman’s was born!

    Other topics covered include: craft brewing, the chemical make up of beer, the differences between the huge variety of beers, how color affects beer’s taste, homebrewing, starting a brewery, why beer get’s skunked, the origins of hops, the business of brewing, Benedictine Monk’s effect on brewing, Hildegard of Bingen, Charlie Bamforth, Louis Pasteur, contract brewing, remote beer pumping, getting a business loan, brewery operations, creating stand operating procedures, Sierra Nevada Brewing, brewing collaboration, Dry January, Reinhehtsgebot, beer history, New Realm Brewing Co, Mitch Steele, and much more.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Capturing Wild Yeast for Beer Brewing w/ Jody Cleaveland Jul 14, 2025
    Show notes

    How does a brewer go from childhood beer aversion to resurrecting historical beer styles? Join Gary Arndt and Bobby Fleshman as they chat with Jody Cleveland of Bare Bones Brewery about his unique brewing journey. Discover the process of capturing wild yeast from fallen leaves and why it’s more than just about brewing beer—it's about preserving history.

    Check out Bare Bones Brewery: https://barebonesbrewery.us/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Introducing Jody Cleaveland

    00:33 Jody's Beer Journey

    02:32 Home Brewing to Professional Brewing

    04:01 Recreating Historical Recipes

    13:55 Capturing Wild Yeast

    30:29 Challenges in Yeast Management

    33:44 Join the Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    The Secrets of Vault 202 Brewery w/ Scott Krebsbach Jul 07, 2025
    Show notes

    We welcome Scott Krebsbach to the Appleton brewery community. Scott comes from the brand-new Vault 202 Brewing, who plans to be open for Mile of Music 2025 in the old Chase bank building. Steal a peek behind the scenes as Scott gives us all the details about his brewing career and what he's most excited about for opening.

    Vault 202 Brewery Website: https://vault202brewery.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 RtB E68 Vault Brewing with Scott Krebsbach MAINFEED

    01:17 Scott's Brewing Journey Begins

    01:59 Brewing in Minnesota and New York

    04:38 Burn Out is Real

    05:26 Back to the Town Hall

    06:16 To the Mecca of Beer

    08:52 Opening Vault 202 in Appleton

    10:59 Where Vault Got Its Name

    12:25 Ebb and Flow of Craft Brewing Industry

    19:20 Brewing System and Logistics

    22:25 Unexpected Construction Challenges

    22:54 Discovering the Building's History

    24:00 Preparing for the Grand Opening

    25:01 Managing Tap Lines and Beer Selection

    27:00 Joining the Appleton Brewing Community

    27:33 Collaborations and Future Plans

    29:57 Stocking Up Beer Takes Time

    31:12 Joel's Finger Injury Story...

    31:24 Join the Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Data Pints #2: What Do You Do When a Beer Under Performs? Jun 30, 2025
    Show notes

    What do you do when the data shows you an underperforming beer but people love it? Bobby, Allison, Gary, and Joel discuss more data points from the brewery in part two of dissecting the data. Topics include more cider options, surprising data points, and 547 Day prep.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Data Pints #2!

    01:15 The Challenge of Product Variety

    01:33 Difficult Decisions: Killing Beloved Beers

    02:24 Moving Beyond Audience Capture

    03:27 Are We An IPA House?

    04:37 Educating Customers on Beer Styles

    06:12 Surprises and Disappointments in Sales

    13:35 The Popularity of El Guapo

    19:42 Planning for 547 Day 2025

    22:16 Join the Patreon! Support us!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Data Pints #1: What Data Does a Brewery Keep Track Of? Jun 23, 2025
    Show notes

    The scientists love tracking data, especially in the brewing business. Bobby and Allison break down several graphs they update regularly. We've got the top 5 beers, when flights are ordered most, and anecdotal data from the Pub Club!

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 The One About Numbers

    01:13 Bobby Loves Graphs

    04:32 The Pub Club Indicators

    11:39 Keeping Record

    13:38 Who Drinks Flights of Beer?

    17:58 Top 5 Best Sellers at McF

    19:41 Support the show on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    From Witches to Craft Brewing: Women Brewers in Modern History Jun 16, 2025
    Show notes

    From witch's brooms to prohibition flappers, women continue to have a huge impact on brewing. Joel takes us through more recent history of women in brewing, including shouting out women currently brewing great beer!

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Women in Brewing PART 2!

    03:28 Impact of the Plague on Brewing

    05:25 Commercialization and Standardization of Beer

    13:58 The Witchcraft Connection

    20:12 The Upstairs Transformation

    20:24 Women in Beer Advertisements

    21:09 Prohibition and Repeal Movement

    22:05 The Role of Women in Brewing History

    23:05 The Flapper Era and Women's Liberation

    28:33 Craft Beer Movement and Women's Reassertion

    29:44 Celebrating Women Brewers

    33:11 Inclusivity in Craft Beer

    37:45 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Women's Hidden Role in Brewing History Jun 09, 2025
    Show notes

    For a majority of history, women were the main brewers. Only within the last hundred years has the industry been dominated by men. What changed? Join historian Joel and the team as they dive into the millennia-old story of women in brewing, from ancient Sumer to the Enlightenment.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    02:23 Women in Brewing History

    04:37 Ancient Brewing Dominated By Women

    08:13 Science, Religion, and Beer

    11:00 Cultural Significance of Beer

    16:16 Women's Role in Medieval Brewing

    23:01 Monastic Brewing Practices

    26:54 Physical Demands of Brewing

    28:59 Hildegard of Bingen's Contributions

    30:11 Why Women Were Phased Out

    34:42 Hildegard's Legacy and Modern Brewing

    38:03 Visit the Brewery and see the Prohibition Room!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    From Farm to Pint w/ Riggs Beer Co - Part 2 Jun 02, 2025
    Show notes

    The Riggs Brothers are back to discuss the unique aspects of Riggs Beer Company, including their use of locally-grown grains from their family farm, financial strategies, and their focus on sustainability with solar energy. They highlight the benefits of their location near a major university (University of Illinois) and the importance of keeping their farm and brewery operations financially separate.

    Visit the Riggs Beer Company in Urbana, Illinois! https://www.riggsbeer.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Financial Viability of Brewing vs. Farming

    00:54 Convincing the Older Generation to Grow Beer...

    05:47 Sustainability Efforts and Carbon Neutrality on the Farm

    10:26 Location and Community Impact

    14:39 Challenges and Unique Position in the Market

    17:49 Come on out to Riggs Beer Company!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    From Farm to Pint w/ Riggs Beer Co - Part 1 May 26, 2025
    Show notes

    How crazy would it be grow your own grain for craft brewing AT SCALE? We talk with Matt and Darin Riggs of Riggs Beer Company about their decision to open a brewery on their family's farm. From convincing their parents to change crops to working with the agriculture department at the University of Illinois for developing grains, part one covers all the crazy.

    Visit the Riggs Beer Company in Urbana, Illinois! https://www.riggsbeer.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Meet the Riggs Brothers

    01:34 The Unique Approach of Riggs Beer Company

    03:37 Challenges and Rewards of Brewing with Homegrown Grains

    04:10 Military Background and Brewing Journey

    05:15 Sustainability and Agricultural Practices

    12:06 Barley and Brewing Challenges

    24:45 Corn and Brewing Innovations with U of I

    29:01 Collaboration and Future Prospects

    31:32 Conclusion and Next Episode Teaser

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    More Coal Innovations by Brewers w/ Dr. Anton Howes May 19, 2025
    Show notes

    The conversation with Dr. Anton Howes continues! We discuss the pivotal role brewers have played in technological advancements, the historical rise of coal, and the interconnectedness of beer, steam engines, and innovation.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Coal's Role in Brewing History

    00:32 Brewing and Technological Innovation

    02:42 Steam Engines and Brewing

    05:13 Origins of the Industrial Revolution

    06:01 Roman Technology and Steam Engines

    11:37 England's Economic Transformation

    13:59 Coal and Steam Engine Development

    17:42 Brewing Innovations and Thermometers

    20:12 Conclusion and Podcast Information

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    The Real Reason Coal Become Popular w/ Dr. Anton Howes May 12, 2025
    Show notes

    What actually made coal a popular source of fuel? It's long been thought that it was Londoners looking to warm their home but Dr. Anton Howes has counter for that misconception! Gary, Joel, and Allison learn from historian Dr. Anton Howes the significant role that breweries played in the early adoption of coal. Part 1!

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Introduction and Guest Introductions

    00:30 Special Guest: Dr. Anton Howes

    00:49 The Role of Coal in the Industrial Revolution

    02:04 Historical Adoption of Coal in Britain

    03:58 Coal's Impact on Brewing

    06:15 Technological Innovations in Brewing

    10:52 Environmental and Economic Implications

    12:15 The Significance of Brewing in the Elizabethan Age

    24:53 Conclusion and Next Episode Teaser

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


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