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    Respecting the Beer

    The smartest podcast for nerdy brewers and beer lovers in under thirty minutes.

    Hosted by owners of McFleshman’s Brewing Co, Bobby and Allison Fleshman with special apparances from Ciceron and historian, Joel Hermansen. Kept on subject by Gary Arndt, host of Everything Everywhere Daily.

    In our first few episodes, we cover the origins of McFleshman’s brewery and brew master, Bobby Fleshman. While studying for a PhD in astrophysics, Bobby fell in love with homebrewing. After consistently winning brewing competitions, he and his wife Allison decided to start a brewery with a different type of experience. Thus McFleshman’s was born!

    Other topics covered include: craft brewing, the chemical make up of beer, the differences between the huge variety of beers, how color affects beer’s taste, homebrewing, starting a brewery, why beer get’s skunked, the origins of hops, the business of brewing, Benedictine Monk’s effect on brewing, Hildegard of Bingen, Charlie Bamforth, Louis Pasteur, contract brewing, remote beer pumping, getting a business loan, brewery operations, creating stand operating procedures, Sierra Nevada Brewing, brewing collaboration, Dry January, Reinhehtsgebot, beer history, New Realm Brewing Co, Mitch Steele, and much more.

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    Latest Episodes:
    How Do Tariffs Affect Craft Beer? Dec 01, 2025
    Show notes

    How does international trade impact your favorite local brew? Hear Bobby and Allison's personal experience with tariffs buying a new brewing tank. Gary and Joel help delve into the complexities of brewing logistics, economic challenges, and the science behind crafting premium beers.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome!

    02:14 Tariff Talks

    03:17 Challenges in Brewing

    04:16 Tank Installation and Expansion

    08:38 Distribution and Market Dynamics

    11:48 Impact of Tariffs and Inflation

    17:08 The Love of Beer and Brewing

    17:46 Marketing Challenges and Insights

    18:37 Craftsmanship and Storytelling

    21:32 Economic Challenges and Adaptability

    23:48 The Academic Perspective

    27:24 Community and Collaboration

    29:37 The Realities of Running a Brewery

    33:37 Support us on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Herbiery Brewing Makes Great Beer Without Hops Nov 24, 2025
    Show notes

    From hop rockets to herbal infusions and brewing challenges, discover the unique artistry behind hop-free brewing. Can herbal beers redefine the brewing landscape?

    Joel, Allison, and Bobby continue the conversation with Nia and Lauren, including their brand new taproom experience!

    Learn more about Herbiery Brewing: https://herbiery.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome Herbiery!

    02:15 Challenges with Brewing and Filtration

    04:47 Exploring Terpenes and Herbal Brewing

    08:15 Regulations and Business Challenges

    09:59 The Journey of Opening a Taproom

    16:02 Highlighting Unique Beers

    18:36 Collaborations and Future Plans

    21:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Exploring Herbal Beers with Herbiery Brewing Nov 17, 2025
    Show notes

    Brewing without hops isn't a new thing. But Nia of Herbiery Brewing in Madison, WI is one of the only breweries that brews beer exclusively with herbs.

    Joel, Bobby, and Allison talk to head brewmaster, Nia, and herb farmer, Lauren, about their unique approaching to beer brewing.

    Learn more about Herbiery Brewing: https://herbiery.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Crack It Open!

    00:06 Welcome Herbiery!

    01:56 Nia's Journey in Beer

    03:25 Understanding Herbalism in Brewing

    06:07 The Unique Approach of Herbiery Brewery

    16:39 Lauren's Path to Farming

    19:15 Exploring Herbal Varieties and Their Uses

    20:47 Brewing Techniques and Collaboration Ideas

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Tap List: Public House Pint Nov 10, 2025
    Show notes

    What happens when you neglect brewing your most beloved stout? Join Gary Arndt and Allison and Bobby Fleshman to unravel the origin of their iconic Public House Pint Dry Irish Stout. They delve into the science and history of nitro beers, and share the gamble of seasonal brewing decisions.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 The Public House Pint Incident

    01:08 Public House Pint 101

    06:52 Porter vs. Stout: What's the Difference?

    10:00 Nitro Beers

    16:42 Irish Stouts

    17:11 The Science of Nitro Beers

    17:59 Debating Beer Experiments

    19:59 Academic Journals and Beer

    21:45 Gary's Number

    23:00 Quick Brewing Times for Irish Beers

    24:02 Support us on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Dennis Wandkte Knows Hospitality Nov 03, 2025
    Show notes

    Allison and Bobby Fleshman welcome one of their business mentors Denny Wandtke. Denny is the former owner of T-dubs Public House in Waupaca, now closed. Denny's love for people led to many seredipiditous moments in life. He and his team's unwavering dedication to exceptional service even influenced McFleshman's in a special way!

    T-Dubs Yelp Reviews: https://www.yelp.com/biz/t-dubs-public-house-waupaca

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome Denny!

    00:49 How Denny Found McFleshman's

    02:58 That Irish Guy

    08:15 The Essence of Hospitality

    19:23 Business is Hard

    21:51 Why T-Dubs Closed

    23:16 The Team Makes the Difference

    24:04 Serendipitous Moments

    26:13 Adapting to Customer Needs

    28:34 The Future of the Business

    35:53 Gratitude Moment

    37:38 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Ben Long Tended Bar at the Ends of the Earth Oct 27, 2025
    Show notes

    Breweries are actually in the hospitality business. Ben Long, former tap room manager at McFleshman's, shares his journey into the hospitality world and the team reminisces on his impact on the taproom. Including board games on the tables, pub club perks, and adding tipping back!

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome!

    00:38 A Long Journey in the Hospitality Industry

    04:25 Adventures in Alaska

    12:11 Joining McFleshman's Brewery

    22:03 Navigating Politics at the Brewery

    24:45 The Tipping Policy Debate

    33:19 Farewell and Future Plans

    35:32 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    The Craft Beer Legends You Didn't Know About w/ Marty Nachel Oct 20, 2025
    Show notes

    What does it take to become a legend in the craft beer world? Marty Nachel - a beer journalist, judge, and founder of the American Craft Beer Hall Of Fame, teaches us about beer judging and how the ACBHOF celebrates the craft beer industry.

    Visit the hall online: https://www.americancraftbeerhalloffame.com/

    How to Judge Beer Like a Pro: https://a.co/d/62M1Iue

    BJCP Judging Criteria: https://www.bjcp.org/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome!

    00:48 Marty Nachel: Beer Journalist & Judge

    02:12 Understanding Beer Judging and BJCP

    05:03 Great American Beer Festival and World Beer Cup

    07:45 Favorite Beer Styles and Brewing Stories

    09:37 American Craft Beer Hall of Fame

    16:47 Craft Beer Hall of Fame Induction Process

    23:34 Challenges and Future of Craft Beer Industry

    28:08 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    What's Overlooked at McFleshman's? And Other Listener Questions Oct 13, 2025
    Show notes

    What makes a great bartender and why should you care? Gary asks, Bobby, Allison, and Joel answer! The team answer listener questions like how they choose what's on tap, what they drink beyond beer, and the most expensive beer they've tasted.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome!

    01:32 The Science of Paint Drying

    02:04 Listener Questions: Bartending Tips

    08:23 Brewing Styles and Trends

    13:12 Creating New Beer Styles

    16:42 Favorite Drinks Beyond Beer

    17:32 Cost-Prohibitive Beers

    19:35 Environmental Impact of Brewing

    23:48 Most Expensive Beers

    26:00 Overlooked Aspects of McFleshman

    30:15 Supoort us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Fuller's Brewery Knows Innovation w/ John Keeling Oct 06, 2025
    Show notes

    How does beer bring communities together and enrich our lives? John Keeling, former brewemaster for Fuller's Brewery, emphasizes the social benefits of drinking beer in communal settings, talks American influence on British pubs, and what the future may look like for beer.

    Find a Fuller's brew near you! https://www.fullersbrewery.co.uk/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome John Keeling!

    03:44 The Joy of Drinking with Friends

    04:34 Tasting and Brewing Insights

    05:09 The Evolution of ESB

    08:11 American Influence on UK Beer

    13:26 The Decline of Pubs in the UK

    25:22 Mount Rushmore of Beer

    31:53 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    The Origins of Oktoberfest Sep 29, 2025
    Show notes

    Oktoberfest is a party AND a beer! Join Gary, Allison, and Bobby as they delve into the brewing secrets, seasonal challenges, and history of the beloved annual event.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome!

    00:15 The Popularity of Oktoberfest Beer

    02:05 The Brewing Process and Ingredients

    03:23 The Science Behind the Flavor

    04:33 Nostalgia and Local Popularity

    09:08 Fest Beer vs. October Fest

    11:57 Brewing and Aging Techniques

    12:46 Planning for Oktoberfest

    12:59 Challenges of Brewing Oktoberfest

    14:00 New Tanks and Production Changes

    17:55 Balancing Seasonal and Year-Round Beers

    20:52 Future Plans and Expansion

    22:47 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


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