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    Respecting the Beer

    The smartest podcast for nerdy brewers and beer lovers in under thirty minutes.

    Hosted by owners of McFleshman’s Brewing Co, Bobby and Allison Fleshman with special apparances from Ciceron and historian, Joel Hermansen. Kept on subject by Gary Arndt, host of Everything Everywhere Daily.

    In our first few episodes, we cover the origins of McFleshman’s brewery and brew master, Bobby Fleshman. While studying for a PhD in astrophysics, Bobby fell in love with homebrewing. After consistently winning brewing competitions, he and his wife Allison decided to start a brewery with a different type of experience. Thus McFleshman’s was born!

    Other topics covered include: craft brewing, the chemical make up of beer, the differences between the huge variety of beers, how color affects beer’s taste, homebrewing, starting a brewery, why beer get’s skunked, the origins of hops, the business of brewing, Benedictine Monk’s effect on brewing, Hildegard of Bingen, Charlie Bamforth, Louis Pasteur, contract brewing, remote beer pumping, getting a business loan, brewery operations, creating stand operating procedures, Sierra Nevada Brewing, brewing collaboration, Dry January, Reinhehtsgebot, beer history, New Realm Brewing Co, Mitch Steele, and much more.

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    This Beer Lover Visited Over 1500 Breweries (and Wrote a Book About It) Apr 09, 2026
    Show notes

    Joel Geier, author of Flights Across America: A Beer Lovers Journey, shares the origins of his love for beer, why he visited 1500 breweries, and his beer flight to end all beer flights.

    Buy Flights Across America: A Beer Lovers Journey: https://www.amazon.com/Flights-Across-America-Brewery-Journey/dp/B0DN3RH9KJ

    Follow Joel on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brewery_travels/

    Follow Badger Beer Report: https://www.badgerbeerreport.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    01:24 Beer Journey Origins

    03:12 Traveling for Breweries

    04:27 Why Flights Matter

    05:23 Flights vs Europe

    09:09 Creative Flight Boards

    10:41 Picking the Perfect Flight

    14:46 Notes Cask and Czech Pours

    19:05 Flights of Flights Stories

    20:46 Ultimate Uber Flight Picks

    28:58 Weirdest Beer Ever

    32:08 Flights Versus Full Pours

    35:03 Flights Across America: a Brewery Lovers's Journey by Joel Geier

    36:17 Support us on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Eric "Cooler" Rottier Brews Your Favorite Beers at McFleshman's Apr 02, 2026
    Show notes

    Joining McFleshman's in 2021, Eric "Cooler" Rottier shares the major differences of big brewers to craft and his contributions to the tap list at the brewery.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    01:26 Meet Cooler the Brewer

    02:57 Traditional Brewing Deep Dive

    05:15 Why They Call Him Cooler

    07:00 Schwarzbier to Stowaway Origin

    08:40 Happy Accident Beer Science

    12:43 Brewery Roles and Work Balance

    16:31 Favorite Beers and Winter Talk

    18:56 Sales Obsession and Style Trends

    20:30 Brewing Mistakes and Filtering

    21:43 Dream Beer Styles

    22:38 Dortmunder Redemption

    23:14 From Homebrew to Pro

    25:42 Mad Scientist Flavors

    26:54 Support us on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Decker, Local Rock Station Music Director, Skipped Slash for Russian River Brewing Mar 26, 2026
    Show notes

    Razor 94.7 104.7 music director, Decker, stops by to share his love for craft beer, music, and the story involving Slash and Russian River Brewing.

    Follow Decker on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deckeronair/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    01:46 Decker's Origin Story

    04:39 Beer as a Music Soundtrack

    06:20 Local Music Beer Collab Idea

    07:54 Minnesota Beer Hot Takes

    10:52 Taste Is Personal Science

    13:00 Big Mergers Ruin Brands

    16:26 Appleton Culture and Growth

    19:54 What to Order First

    22:33 Bands Touring and Brewery Stops

    25:45 Homebrewing First Mistakes

    27:10 Skipping Slash for Russian River Brewing

    31:16 Collab Ideas and Beer Law

    34:35 Metal Talk Meets Brewing Legends

    38:39 Sour Beer Science

    42:02 Death Row Beer Flight

    46:01 Support us on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Taplist: McFleshman's Hazy IPAs Mar 19, 2026
    Show notes

    After much reluctance due to being "trendy," Bobby finally made a hazy. And now there is a few more on tap. The gang reviews the origins and recipes of Blazy, Alter Ego, and other varients of the McFleshman's Hazy family.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    01:10 Why Brew a Hazy?

    02:54 What Makes a Hazy?

    04:33 Hazy Origins And Hype

    06:26 Hops, Terpenes, And Flavor (Oh My!)

    07:46 Brewing Alter Ego Recipe

    11:09 Water Chemistry & Mouthfeel

    14:25 Controlling Haze Stability

    16:26 Shelf Stable Haze

    16:43 Hazy Alter Egos

    17:23 Toasting Coconut Tales

    20:57 Rambutan Beer Dreams

    22:16 Adding Fruit Safely

    23:28 Why Blaze and Maisy?

    25:35 Mango London Origin

    28:51 Future Variants and Fats

    30:38 Cheese Curd Beer Chaos

    33:03 Support Us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Jamil Zainasheff on Why Ordinary Beer Is Boring Mar 12, 2026
    Show notes

    Brewer and author Jamil Zainasheff returns to talk about moving from homebrewing to owning a brewery, collaboration with Mitch Steele and Fuller's, and evaluating some of his most famous quotes. Part 2 of 2.

    Learn homebrewing with Mr. Malty! https://www.mrmalty.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    00:14 Jamil Zainasheff on Going Pro

    04:26 Evil Three Returns

    08:56 Fullers Collaboration Tales

    18:16 Ordinary Beer Is Boring

    21:32 Life Too Short For Bad Beer

    23:22 Treat Every Guest Special

    26:04 Invite To McFleshman's Brewery

    28:28 Mount Rushmore Of Brewing

    35:23 Where To Find Jamil

    36:13 Best Homebrewing Books

    40:40 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Jamil Zainasheff on Homebrew Mastery, BJCP Styles & Medal-Winning Recipes Mar 05, 2026
    Show notes

    We welcome award-winning homebrewer, author, professional brewer, and Heretic Brewing founder Jamil Zainasheff to the show! Jamil shares how he began brewing, the importance of BJCP styles, and some of his early brewing challenges. Part 1 of 2.

    Start homebrewing with Mr. Malty! https://www.mrmalty.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    01:02 Jamil Zainascheff

    02:59 Brewing Network Era

    06:00 Medals and Mastery

    09:42 Style Guide Deep Dive

    12:23 Schwarzbier Misfire

    15:36 Why Styles Matter

    18:52 Hardest and Best Beers

    25:25 Going Pro with Heretic

    26:26 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Omega Brewing Experience From Omro, WI Serves Ice Cold IPA Feb 28, 2026
    Show notes

    Omega Brewing Experience's Steve Zink stops by the podcast "studio" during Lagerfest 2025. Steve retired from Oshkosh Defense and decided to start a brewery in small town Wisconsin. He shares his style of brewing and why he named the company Omega.

    Visit Omega Brewing Experience: https://www.facebook.com/p/Omega-Brewing-Experience-100063586692791/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Live from Lagerfest 2025

    00:59 Steve Zink Origin Story

    01:55 Traditional Beer Philosophy

    03:58 Nano Brewery Setup

    05:43 Desert Island IPA

    06:44 Recipe Tweaks and Tradition

    09:18 Hazy IPA Market Reality

    11:14 Best Sellers and Lager Fest Pour

    13:15 Cold IPA Deep Dive

    14:10 What’s Next for Omega

    15:20 Why Omega Experience

    17:41 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Mosinee Brewing Company Brings Back Hometown Beer Feb 26, 2026
    Show notes

    Live at Lagerfest 2025, Ben Schreiner of Mosinee Brewing Company steps away from their booth to talk taproom, best brews, and creating community.

    Visit Mosinee Brewing Co: https://www.mosineebrewing.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    00:29 Meet Ben Shreiner of Mosinee Brewing

    00:45 From Homebrew to Pro

    02:00 Brewery Launch & Pandemic Surivval

    03:22 Hometown Brewery Reach

    04:30 Packaging and Food Plan

    05:54 Traditional vs Trendy

    07:01 Wisconsin Beer Stats

    08:40 Brew System and Beer Styles

    12:17 Decoction and Water Chemistry

    15:56 Mosinee's Taproom & Best Sellers

    19:18 Best vs Favorite Beer

    20:16 Most Technical Beer?

    23:22 Sourcing Local Hops

    26:03 Visit Mosinee Brewing Co!

    27:39 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Appleton Beer Factory Stops By for a Pint at Lagerfest 2025 Feb 21, 2026
    Show notes

    We finally get the rest of the Appleton Beer Factory team on mic! Gary and Bobby host Jeff Fogle, Ben Fogle, and Carl Pierce to trace Appleton Beer Factory’s origins. From Jeff’s 1982 homebrew build and sanitary welding to ABF’s DIY 22-tank system. They cover early ingredient hunts, business planning, recession-era funding, the ABF–McFleshman’s collaboration, contract brewing, expansion and a proposed alley pipe?

    Visit ABF: https://appletonbeerfactory.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    01:12 Jeff Fogle's Origin Story

    03:11 Brewing Before the Internet

    04:19 Sourcing Ingredients the Hard Way

    05:56 Sanitary Welding 101

    08:21 Carl Pierce, ABF Partner

    11:53 Building the Appleton Beer Factory

    18:06 The DIY Brewery Build-Out

    19:51 Partnering with McFleshman’s

    22:23 What's Next for ABF?

    25:34 A Pipe Over the Alley??

    26:32 What to Order at ABF

    28:07 Mount Rushmore of Brewing

    31:21 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Let's Hang with Cocoon Brewing from Ledgeview, WI Feb 19, 2026
    Show notes

    Live from Lagerfest 2025, Gary, Joel, and Eric chat with Melissa and Josh from Cocoon Brewing (opened Feb 2023). They cover what sets Cocoon's taproom apart from others, the origins of the retro butterfly theming, and most importantly, what's on tap!

    Visit Cocoon Brewing: https://cocoonbrewing.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Live at Lager Fest 2025

    01:37 Cocoon Brewing Origin Story

    02:31 The Taproom Experience

    09:15 On Tap at Lagerfest

    10:05 Where to Find Cocoon in the Wild

    10:49 What Brings People In

    12:35 Mount Rushmore of Brews

    14:30 "Let’s Hang”

    15:28 What’s Next for Cocoon?

    17:08 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


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