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    Respecting the Beer

    The smartest podcast for nerdy brewers and beer lovers in under thirty minutes.

    Hosted by owners of McFleshman’s Brewing Co, Bobby and Allison Fleshman with special apparances from Ciceron and historian, Joel Hermansen. Kept on subject by Gary Arndt, host of Everything Everywhere Daily.

    In our first few episodes, we cover the origins of McFleshman’s brewery and brew master, Bobby Fleshman. While studying for a PhD in astrophysics, Bobby fell in love with homebrewing. After consistently winning brewing competitions, he and his wife Allison decided to start a brewery with a different type of experience. Thus McFleshman’s was born!

    Other topics covered include: craft brewing, the chemical make up of beer, the differences between the huge variety of beers, how color affects beer’s taste, homebrewing, starting a brewery, why beer get’s skunked, the origins of hops, the business of brewing, Benedictine Monk’s effect on brewing, Hildegard of Bingen, Charlie Bamforth, Louis Pasteur, contract brewing, remote beer pumping, getting a business loan, brewery operations, creating stand operating procedures, Sierra Nevada Brewing, brewing collaboration, Dry January, Reinhehtsgebot, beer history, New Realm Brewing Co, Mitch Steele, and much more.

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    Exploring Our Wild Rice Collaboration w/ Sway Brewing’s Matt Sampson Sep 12, 2026
    Show notes

    Fellow PhD turned brewer, Matt Sampson, sits down for an impromptu voice memo recording in the Sway Brewing cellar! Origin stories, brewing philosophies, and the recent collaboration is explored!

    Visit Sway Brewing + Blending in Door County, WI! https://www.swaybeer.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    00:53 Sway Brewing Overview

    01:56 Matt Chemistry to Beer

    03:54 Door County Move Pivot

    06:05 Hacienda Origin Story

    10:33 Foeders and Cellar Tour

    12:29 Cleaning and Oak Benefits

    16:41 From Brewer to Owner

    18:53 Meeting and Collab Setup

    22:34 Wild Rice Collab Idea

    25:52 Building The Rice Lager

    26:26 Pause For A Pour

    27:30 What to Name It?

    29:15 Cereal Mash And Hops

    31:28 Fermentation And Flavor

    33:09 Recipe Tweaks And Foam

    34:38 Future Collabs And Lessons

    38:07 Death Row Beer Picks

    40:38 Support us on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Voicemail: Internal Marketing Meeting Over Coffee Sep 03, 2026
    Show notes

    Allison and Bobby discuss marketing for McFleshman’s, how to stand out when the local craft brewing scene continues to grow. Listen to the full conversation for FREE on our Patreon page!

    This is an interlude episode between seasons recorded on a phone. We’ll be back with full interviews with brewers in our next season.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Announcement: Summer Break 2026 Aug 13, 2026
    Show notes

    We're taking a break from the podcast for a bit. But we're not leaving you empty handed. Bonuses are coming your way!

    Get your tickets to Lager Fest 2026: https://www.mcfleshmans.com/lagerfest/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Vinnie Cilurzo's Woes on Opening a Second Russian River Brewing Location Aug 06, 2026
    Show notes

    Vinnie returns for part 2 of our conversation! He digs into their sour beer program, what it took to open a second brewery, and experimental hops usage. We also get our classic Mt. Rushmore of Brewing.

    Pick up some Russian River Brewing Co: https://www.russianriverbrewing.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    02:14 Barrels Bacteria Coolship

    04:21 Market Shift and Quality

    06:57 Pilot Brewery Hop Trials

    08:56 Hop Breeders Shape IPA

    12:16 Russian River 110 Fundraiser

    14:03 Building the Dream Brewery

    19:45 Independence and Growth Mindset

    22:11 Needed or Wanted Windsor

    24:18 Sustainability CO2 Water

    27:51 Construction Mistakes and Support

    29:36 Food and Restaurant Realities

    31:02 Death Row Beer Flight

    35:33 Support us on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Russian River Brewing Co's Vinnie Cilurzo on Pliny the Elder and Hops Jul 30, 2026
    Show notes

    Vinnie shares the origin story of Russian River Brewing Company, how he and his wife, Natalie took over and kept it alive. He also tells all about their most popular beer: Pliny the Elder, the standard for IPAs. Part 1 of 2!

    Pick up some Russian River Brewing Co: https://www.russianriverbrewing.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    01:27 Welcome Vinnie Cilurzo!

    04:20 Founding Russian River

    05:14 Pliny the Elder Origins

    09:40 Pliny Younger Releases

    11:02 Inspired Brewers and Tornado

    15:40 Decker Slash Story

    18:46 Early IPA Influences

    22:55 Simcoe Hop Deep Dive

    27:48 STS Pils and Lager Focus

    31:52 Support us on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Taplist: Scapegoat Bock LIVE at Tardigrade's Bookshelf Jul 23, 2026
    Show notes

    Live form the Tardigrade's Bookshelf, the gang dives into bock beers and the story of Scapegoat, McFleshman's take on a bock.

    Bonus content that didn't make the main feed, Q&A with the audience and business owner woes as we interview the owner's of the venue.

    Visit the Tardigrade's Bookshelf in Appleton, WI: https://www.tardigradesbookshelf.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer LIVE

    01:04 Venue Vibes

    02:10 Bock Beer History

    04:44 Goats and Doppelbock

    06:59 Water and Yeast

    08:56 Augustiner Yeast Love

    12:36 Yeast Drift and Repitching

    18:28 Malt Builds the Bock

    23:09 Sweetness vs Maltiness

    26:21 Beer Poker Tradition

    27:42 Decoction and Melanoidins

    29:04 Scapegoat Name Story

    32:45 Hops for Balance

    34:36 Ingredient Sourcing Small Brewery

    35:10 Why Hop Farms Matter

    35:40 Scapegoat Vibe Pairings

    37:02 Maibock Versus Bock

    38:34 Minty Hops And Timing

    40:15 Golden Bock Market Talk

    41:09 Tardigrades Tap List

    42:21 Tardigrade's Bookshelf Plugs

    43:03 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Taste Testing First Time Homebrew w/ Screaming Hound Homebrewers Jul 16, 2026
    Show notes

    Jamison and Delaney of Screaming Hound Home Brewing join us for some candid feedback from a pro! Bobby and Decker share some notes on some samples and offer some encouragement to these two young homebrewers.

    Bonuses you won't hear on the main feed: Taste test brew #3, an iteration of the amber and Jamison's solutions for highly pressurized bottles.

    Want to try Screaming Hound brews? Join the Green Bay Rackers Homebrew Club! https://www.rackers.org/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer!

    01:42 Why They Started Brewing

    04:02 Apartment Brewing Gear Talk

    06:47 First Brews and Saison Disaster

    09:37 Oktoberfest Tasting and Bottle Conditioning

    16:20 Extract Sweetness and Boilovers

    21:35 Next Sample Corn Amber Experiment

    22:21 Taming the Corn Flavor

    22:46 Carbonation Chaos and Aging

    23:55 California Common Breakdown

    25:48 Hops Choices and Storage

    29:44 Hop Sensitivity and Gruit Ideas

    33:46 Bottle Reuse and New Glarus Tips

    35:28 Homebrew Club and Water Chemistry

    38:56 Brewing Advice and Wrap Up

    39:58 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Gary Arndt on Beer, Host of Everything Everywhere Daily Jul 09, 2026
    Show notes

    We turn the tables on Gary Arndt! Beer drinker and idea man. Allison, Bobby, and Decker ask about his favorite podcast moments, curiosity driving his wildly successful podcast, and what's next for him.

    Listen to Gary's podcast: https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respecting the Beer

    00:44 Naming McFleshmans Bits

    01:51 Gary The Idea Guy

    03:02 Why Podcasts Open Doors

    06:34 Beer Learning And Buzzwords

    09:43 Curiosity And Quantum Detour

    10:21 Marketing Reality And Stairs

    12:33 Mastering Many Beer Styles

    14:51 Careers Focus And Entrepreneurship

    19:04 Exit Plans And Employee Ownership

    21:29 Gary's Most Memorable Podcast Moment

    22:42 Water Chemistry And World Beer Cup

    24:20 Gary's Favorite Guest

    27:02 Gary's REAL Memorable Moment

    27:48 Threading the Nerd Needle

    29:04 Podcast Growth Plans

    30:28 Completionist Club

    31:54 Live Show Tour Ideas

    34:50 Gary's Last Travel Goals

    37:48 Marshall Islands Stories

    41:10 Everything Everywhere Beer

    42:32 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    McFleshman's Flavor Adventures w/ Aaron Reimers Jul 02, 2026
    Show notes

    Meet Aaron “Flavor Baaron” Reimers! Bobby and Allison turn the mic on in-house brewer Aaron Reimers. Aaron shares his journey from sculpture artist to brewing. It's not the normal route we usually hear! He also gives you a peek behind the curtain of some of the beer experiments McFleshman's.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    01:58 Aaron Origin Story

    06:52 NA And Cider Mission

    08:39 Dunkelweizen Obsession

    11:38 Brewing Science Banana Notes

    13:51 Oh Crap Mead Explosion

    19:30 Bobby Sharpie Chaos

    22:56 Pencil Paper Patterns

    23:53 Brewing Without Homebrew

    25:02 Hiring Trainable Talent

    25:38 Pilot System Learning

    27:03 Color Theory In Drinks

    28:52 Purple Pink Blue Challenges

    30:48 Wax Dips Presentation

    32:10 Swiss Army Brewery Days

    36:00 Schedules Chaos Problem Solving

    37:37 Black Friday Flavor RnD

    40:04 Tinctures Extract Lab

    42:00 Wrap Up And Credits

    42:31 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Working Draft Beer Co Brews Traditional Pilsners w/ Co-founder Clint Lohman Jun 25, 2026
    Show notes

    Clint Lohman, head brewer and co-founder of Working Draft Beer Company in Madison, WI joins us to share his beer journey and company origins.

    Visit Working Draft in Madison, WI: https://www.workingdraftbeer.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    CHAPTERS

    00:00 Welcome to Respsecting the Beer!

    01:06 Working Draft Overview

    02:02 Lager Epiphany

    03:02 From Factory To Homebrew

    05:03 Breaking Into Pro Brewing

    06:32 Vintage To Wisconsin Brewing

    07:34 Joining Working Draft

    08:16 Kirby Nelson Mentorship

    09:38 Early Beers and Flagships

    11:30 Why Lager Is Hard

    13:56 Process Over Recipe

    18:51 Removing Harshness

    23:23 Decoction and Filtration

    27:39 Czech Lagers and Fest

    30:22 Smoked Wild Rice Lager

    34:54 Cereal Mash Deep Dive

    37:27 Death Row Beer Flight

    39:00 Festival Invite and Wrap

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


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