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    Respecting the Beer

    The smartest podcast for nerdy brewers and beer lovers in under thirty minutes.

    Hosted by owners of McFleshman’s Brewing Co, Bobby and Allison Fleshman with special apparances from Ciceron and historian, Joel Hermansen. Kept on subject by Gary Arndt, host of Everything Everywhere Daily.

    In our first few episodes, we cover the origins of McFleshman’s brewery and brew master, Bobby Fleshman. While studying for a PhD in astrophysics, Bobby fell in love with homebrewing. After consistently winning brewing competitions, he and his wife Allison decided to start a brewery with a different type of experience. Thus McFleshman’s was born!

    Other topics covered include: craft brewing, the chemical make up of beer, the differences between the huge variety of beers, how color affects beer’s taste, homebrewing, starting a brewery, why beer get’s skunked, the origins of hops, the business of brewing, Benedictine Monk’s effect on brewing, Hildegard of Bingen, Charlie Bamforth, Louis Pasteur, contract brewing, remote beer pumping, getting a business loan, brewery operations, creating stand operating procedures, Sierra Nevada Brewing, brewing collaboration, Dry January, Reinhehtsgebot, beer history, New Realm Brewing Co, Mitch Steele, and much more.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Fuller's Brewery Knows Tradition w/ John Keeling Sep 22, 2025
    Show notes

    We talk about traditional beer making alot but nothing get's more traditional than an English brewery started in 1845. Gary, Bobby, and Allison get to talk to John Keeling, former brewmaster for Fuller's Brewery. In part one of this convo, John talks about his journey into brewing, the traditional methods, and the social aspects of beer.

    Find a Fuller's brew near you! https://www.fullersbrewery.co.uk/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome John Keeling!

    00:37 John Keeling's Journey into Brewing

    04:24 The Art of Brewing at Fullers

    08:30 Historical Beers and Emotional Connections

    14:31 Modernization and Consistency in Brewing

    27:55 The Social Aspect of Beer

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Mile of Music 2025 Recap Sep 15, 2025
    Show notes

    What happens when craft beer meets original music festival? Mile of Music! Joel hosts with Bobby and Allison delve into the behind-the-scenes effort that made the 2025 festival unforgettable. From logistics and special brews to quirky staff antics and volunteer experiences, discover how McFleshman's Brewery contributes to Appleton's unique musical celebration.

    Join us for Mile of Music next year! https://mileofmusic.com/homepage/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome to the show!

    01:23 Mile of Music Overview

    05:49 Festival Logistics and Challenges

    06:07 Music and Beer Connection

    15:35 Staff Experiences and Fun Moments

    17:55 The Herculean Effort Behind the Scenes

    18:38 The Secret of Tapping October Fest

    19:25 The Beatbox Saga

    20:49 Meeting Isaiah: A New Friend and Brewer

    25:20 Innovations and Improvements at Mile

    28:09 Support us on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    The Great Beer Revival: Post-Prohibition History Sep 08, 2025
    Show notes

    What did it take for beer to rebound after Prohibition? Joel continues post-prohibition history with the transformative role of marketing, the resurgence of home brewing, and how the brewing industry adapted technological advances. Perpetual stew, the evolution of beer cans, and even contemplate a hypothetical modern-day shutdown.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 The Power of Marketing in the Beer Industry

    01:20 The Rise and Fall of Breweries Post-1933

    02:13 Home Brewing Through the Decades

    03:11 Supply Chain Challenges in Brewing

    11:06 The Evolution of Beer Packaging

    15:16 Adapting to COVID-19: A New Era for Breweries

    16:03 Pivoting in a Crisis

    16:54 A 547 Mustard?

    20:15 The Romance of Wine vs. Beer

    21:47 Prohibition's Impact on Beer Replication

    23:31 The Role of Hops in Beer Production

    25:08 Canadian Beer History and Cultural References

    26:22 Psychological and Economic Shifts Post-Prohibition

    27:40 The Three-Tier System in Alcohol Distribution

    28:53 Support us on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    How Did Alcohol Bounce Back After Prohibition? Sep 01, 2025
    Show notes

    What happened to the beer industry after Prohibition ended? Joel leads the gang through the fascinating journey of American brewing, exploring its struggles, innovations, and resurgence.

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome!

    01:16 Prohibition Ends: A New Era for Beer

    01:38 Exploring the Prohibition Room

    04:41 The Temperance Movement and Prohibition

    08:25 Post-Prohibition Challenges and Changes

    13:12 The Role of Politics in Ending Prohibition

    15:04 Low ABV Beer

    17:35 The Mystique of Spotted Cow Beer

    19:27 Prohibition and the New Deal

    20:35 Rebooting Breweries Post-Prohibition

    23:48 The Economic Impact of the Cullen Harrison Act

    25:57 Consolidation and Technological Advances in the Beer Industry

    27:04 Support us on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    How Music and Brewing Are Alike w/ Musician Sarah Lynn Aug 25, 2025
    Show notes

    No matter the medium, creating takes heart and soul. Our theme song composer Sarah Lynn and Bobby harmonize on the analogs between brewing beer and making music. Learn how Sarah found the brewery, the story behind the theme song, and why Bobby thinks music and beer are so intertwined.

    Follow Sarah Lynn's Facebook for live show announcements

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

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    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome!

    00:59 Special Guest: Sarah Lynn

    01:41 Discovering McFleshman's Brewery

    02:54 Building a Community

    07:48 Inclusivity and Support

    11:44 Music and Beer Analogiesc

    17:47 Creating the Podcast Theme Song

    20:31 Discussing the Brand Identity

    20:53 Pub Atomosphere In a Song

    22:31 Sarah's Other Bands

    24:26 Beer Styles and Brewing Philosophy

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Explore the History of Oshkosh Beer w/ Lee Reiherzer Aug 18, 2025
    Show notes

    What do Oshkosh's craft beer scene, Prohibition-era speakeasies, and historic bars have in common? Oshkosh Beer Blog author Lee Reiherzer unwinds the rich tapestry of Oshkosh’s brewing history, from the architecture of stunning taverns to the tales of local wildcat breweries. Discover what makes this small Wisconsin city a significant piece of beer heritage!

    Subscribe to Lee's blog for even more Oshkosh beer details: https://oshkoshbeer.blogspot.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome!

    00:18 Lee Reiherzer of Oshkosh Beer Blog

    02:55 Historical Bars and Woodwork

    05:44 Prohibition Era in Oshkosh

    08:04 Chief Oshkosh and Local Breweries

    16:30 Tied Houses and Brewery Ownership

    18:50 Oshkosh During Prohibition

    23:27 The Decline of Oshkosh Breweries

    24:31 The Impact of National Brands

    26:45 Surviving Local Breweries

    28:05 The Craft Beer Resurgence

    30:44 Exploring Oshkosh's Craft Beer Scene

    32:55 Historical Taverns and Bars

    34:46 People's Brewing Company and Black Ownership

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Mitch Steele of New Realm Brewing Wrote THE Book on IPA Aug 11, 2025
    Show notes

    Brew master over six brewery locations on the east coast, Mitch Steele is also the author of IPA: Brewing Techniques, Recipes and the Evolution of India Pale Ale. Joel, Bobby, and Stephanie ask Mitch about what it takes to expand a brewery after one success and why he'll probably never write another book.

    On the east coast? Visit New Realm Brewing Co! https://newrealmbrewing.com/

    Pick up a copy of Mitch's book on IPA: Amazon.com: IPA: Brewing Techniques, Recipes and the Evolution of India Pale Ale: 9781938469008: Steele, Mitch: Books

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    Mitch Steele of New Realm Brewing Looks Back on 40 Years of Brewing Aug 04, 2025
    Show notes

    How do you pivot from one of the largest breweries in the world to starting your own brewery? Mitch Steele of New Realm Brewing brings over 40 years of brewing experience to these next two weeks. He shares how his love for brewing took him from UC Davis to Anheuser-Busch before landing in the craft brewery scene.

    On the east coast? Visit New Realm Brewing Co! https://newrealmbrewing.com/

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Joel is in Charge!

    01:47 Welcome Mitch Steele!

    03:04 Mitch Steele's Brewing Journey

    08:04 Challenges of Opening a Brewery

    13:53 Experience at Anheuser-Busch and Stone Brewing

    21:53 Founding New Realm Brewing

    27:00 More Mitch Next Week!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    140+ Years of Malting in Wisconsin w/ Briess Malt & Ingredients Co Jul 28, 2025
    Show notes

    Dive into over a century of malt-making history with Ron and Jordan from Briess Malt and Ingredients Company. Discover their pivotal role in the rise of craft brewing, memorable milestones, and how they continue to innovate with the perfect malted milk balls!

    Get some malt: https://food.briess.com/

    Get tickets to the Malt City Brewfest 2025, hosted by Briess Malt: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/malt-city-brewfest-2025-tickets-1226903995879

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcoming Back Briess Malt

    00:21 History of Briess Malt and Ingredient Company

    01:37 The Craft Beer Revolution

    03:47 Legacy and Impact of Briess

    06:16 Modern Operations and Innovations

    15:01 Supply Chain and Production

    22:51 Visitor Experience at Manitowoc and Chilton

    24:21 THE Malted Milk Balls

    26:52 Craft Beer Festival in Manitowoc

    33:03 Support the show on Patreon!

    --

    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


    What is Malt? w/ Briess Malt & Ingredients Co Jul 21, 2025
    Show notes

    Ever wondered what malt really is? Its in shakes, beer, pizza crust, but what is it? Gary Arndt and Joel Hermansen take over the podcast and eat all the malted milk balls from Briess Malt & Ingrededient Co! They discuss the science and art of malting with technical maltster Jordon Guerts and marketing director Ron Schroder.Discover the intricate journey from barley to malt and how even mishaps can lead to new and exciting beers.

    Get some malt: https://food.briess.com/

    Get tickets to the Malt City Brewfest 2025, hosted by Briess Malt: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/malt-city-brewfest-2025-tickets-1226903995879

    PATREON SUPPORT

    patreon.com/respectingthebeerpodcast

    1. Uncut episodes with bonus content
    2. Access to exclusive beers
    3. Access to 50-minute video tour of McFleshman's

    FACEBOOK GROUP

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/respectingthebeer

    QUESTIONS?

    Email us at respectingthebeer@gmail.com

    --

    TIMELINE

    00:00 Welcome!

    00:47 Introduction to Briess Malting Company

    01:44 What is Malt?

    03:18 The Malting Process Explained

    04:59 Challenges in Malting and Technological Advances

    13:41 Specialty Malts and Their Importance

    19:36 Accidental Beer Creations

    27:12 Support the show on Patreon!

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    CREDITS

    Hosts:

    Bobby Fleshman - https://www.mcfleshmans.com/

    Allison Fleshman -https://www.instagram.com/mcfleshmans/

    Joel Hermansen

    Gary Ardnt - https://everything-everywhere.com/everything-everywhere-daily-podcast/

    Musicby Sarah Lynn Huss - https://www.facebook.com/kevin.huss.52/

    Recorded & Produced by David Kalsow - https://davidkalsow.com/

    Brought to you by McFleshman's Brewing Co


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