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    Marketing Against The Grain

    Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot’s SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.

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    This AI Does in 20 Minutes What Takes Video Teams 20 Days Jun 05, 2025
    Show notes

    Ep 333

    In five years will the majority of social video will be AI-generated?

    Kipp, Kieran, and guest Gaurav Misra, of Captions, dive into the arrival of Mirage, a new AI video tool that turns 20 days of video production into 20 minutes of creative magic. Learn more on how AI-generated avatars will change the face of marketing for SMBs, why realism and acting are the key differentiators for engaging video, and practical ways you can use AI video for ads, product demos, social content, and SEO faster and at a fraction of the cost.

    Mentions

    • Want to Create Content with AI? Get our checklist here: https://clickhubspot.com/wvu
    • Gaurav Misra https://www.linkedin.com/in/gamisra1/

    • Captions https://www.captions.ai/

    • Mirage https://www.captions.ai/mirage

    • ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/

    Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA29LQvNkQ4&t=977s


    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

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    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

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    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Marketing Tactics You Need to Learn in the AI Era ft. Morning Brew Founder Jun 03, 2025
    Show notes

    Ep 332

    Is vibe marketing hype or the future of growth?

    Kipp and Kieran dive into what marketing success looks like in the AI era, joined by Morning Brew founder Alex Lieberman. Learn more on why the old playbooks of search and email are falling short, how ‘vibe marketing’ is redefining how brands connect with audiences, and which skills and team structures actually matter for marketers looking to win in a world flooded with automation, AI, and lightning-fast creative execution.

    Mentions

    • Want our ultimate guide to Vibe Marketing? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/ain
    • Alex Lieberman https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-lieberman/

    • Morning Brew https://www.morningbrew.com/

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    • Zapier https://zapier.com/

    • beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com/

    • Cursor https://www.cursor.com/

    Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSXf6WvFZOw&t=1905s

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

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    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Claude 4 is INSANE! Connect to all Apps + Automate Workflows May 29, 2025
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    Ep. 331

    “Claude’s superpower is connecting with other applications”.

    Kipp and Kieran dive into the game-changing world of AI-powered marketing automation using Claude 4 Opus and app integrations. Learn more on supercharging your marketing workflows with Zapier integrations, using AI to simulate real-time team feedback, and why the future of marketing ops lies in harnessing connected AI models.

    Mentions

    • Want our complete guide to Claude? Get it for free here: https://clickhubspot.com/wkm
    • Claude 4 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-4

    • Claude’s Opus 4 https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus

    • Zapier https://zapier.com/

    Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-grLw2vMbI


    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    How I Create Expert-Level Presentations Using AI in 20 Minutes (2 Prompts) May 27, 2025
    Show notes

    Ep. 330

    What if you could create a world-class presentation with just two AI prompts?


    Kieran dives into how marketers, founders, and salespeople can harness the latest AI tools to instantly generate slide decks using proven expert frameworks. Learn more on selecting your ideal presentation type, using AI to tap into methodologies from the best in the business, and streamlining the entire process by plugging in brand style guides for pitch-perfect slides every single time.

    Mentions

    • Want our best marketing prompts? Grab our Claude Hacks for Marketers here: https://clickhubspot.com/dnu
    • Want Kieran's Presentation Prompt? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/wne
    • Genspark https://www.genspark.ai/

    • Claude’s Opus 4 https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus

    • Ramp https://ramp.com/intelligence

    • Asana https://asana.com/

    Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6EMrISDoUw


    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    I Created a $200k MBA-Level Marketing Course with 1 AI Prompt May 22, 2025
    Show notes

    Ep. 329

    What if you could create a world-class, MBA-level marketing course on AI with a single prompt—and for free?

    Kieran dives into the exact prompt and process he used to build a $200k-value AI marketing curriculum in less time than a coffee break. Learn more on crafting custom AI courses tailored to your organization, building real-world hands-on AI lessons (not just theory), and unlocking insider methods to integrate AI across every facet of your marketing team.

    Mentions

    • Want our best marketing prompts? Grab our Claude Hacks for Marketers here: https://clickhubspot.com/mdv
    • ChatGPT o3 https://openai.com/index/introducing-o3-and-o4-mini/

    • ChatGPT-4 Turbo https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-4-turbo

    • OpenAI Tasks https://community.openai.com/t/new-feature-tasks-beta-rolling-out/1091180

    Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr2KaXfi6Eo

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Using GPT-o3 to Replace My Creative Director (FREE PROMPT) May 20, 2025
    Show notes

    Ep. 328

    Could an AI model be the world’s best creative director?

    Kipp dives into how o3 can instantly generate ad campaigns that nail your brand style, why combining smart AI prompting with image generation gets unprecedented results, and what it means for the future of creative work. Learn more about seamlessly turning brand guides into campaigns, mastering AI prompt chains for marketing, and the top ways to use o3 as your high-skill creative partner.

    Mentions

    • Want our Creative Director prompt? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/pwd
    • OpenAI’s o3 and o4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-o3-and-o4-mini/

    • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

    • HubSpot Style Guide https://offers.hubspot.com/create-brand-style-guide

    Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifimwE4Q-Xk&t=313s


    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Become a Google-Level Prompt Engineer in 20 Minutes May 15, 2025
    Show notes

    Ep. 327

    Kieran dives into how marketers (and anyone) can use AI and just a few smart prompts to create a Prompt Engineer. Learn more on turning PDFs into practical marketing templates, building a custom AI prompt engineer for your specific business goals, and generating marketing tactics.

    Mentions

    • Want our PDF-to-Prompt Engineer Prompt? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/msl
    • Lee Boonstra’s Prompt Engineering PDF https://www.gptaiflow.tech/assets/files/2025-01-18-pdf-1-TechAI-Goolge-whitepaper_Prompt%20Engineering_v4-af36dcc7a49bb7269a58b1c9b89a8ae1.pdf

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

    • OpenAI https://openai.com/

    Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnTb99ESoNk&t=417s


    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    This AI Replaces Your Marketing Team in 30 Minutes (Step-by-Step) May 13, 2025
    Show notes

    Ep. 326

    What if you could replace (or supercharge) your entire marketing team in under 45 minutes?

    Kipp and Kieran dive into how AI can build you an elite-level paid marketer, brand marketer, and product marketer, all powered by custom GPTs. Learn more on step-by-step instructions for creating expert marketing AI profiles, building custom GPTs that act as top-tier marketers, and how to leverage these virtual teammates to solve real business challenges—without hiring new humans.

    Mentions

    • Get our Luke "The Paid Marketer" Master GPT here: https://clickhubspot.com/gjw
    • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    • DALL·E https://openai.com/index/dall-e-3/

    • Brian Balfour https://brianbalfour.com/

    • Slack https://slack.com/

    Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ouksJBwT4&t=38s

    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    This AI Assistant Will Organize Your Life (No More Chaos) May 08, 2025
    Show notes

    Ep. 325

    What if you could be 10x more productive—just by letting AI organize your workday?

    Kipp dives into how to leverage new AI assistants to automate your workflows, optimize your meetings, and finally banish daily chaos. Learn more on integrating Claude and ChatGPT with your Google tools, using AI to map and improve your daily routines, and building a custom personal assistant agent that keeps you one step ahead.

    Mentions

    • Want our favorite productivity prompt? Get it here: https://clickhubspot.com/dse
    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

    • Zapier https://zapier.com/

    • Make https://www.make.com/en

    Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD6ehvz5fDg&t=642s


    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Your Boss Will LOVE This Pitch Deck Hack (FREE AI) May 06, 2025
    Show notes

    Ep. 324

    Did you know you can create a high-quality, on-brand pitch deck for your product in under 30 minutes—with almost no design work?

    Kipp dives into how to instantly create standout pitch decks using AI, blending style, content, and speed like never before. Learn more on why most slide deck generators still suck, how to use tools like Genspark and ChatGPT to nail your brand’s look, and pro tips for turning AI-generated outlines into sales-ready presentations—all without spending hours in PowerPoint.

    Mentions

    • Want to automate your marketing with AI? Get our playbook here: https://clickhubspot.com/cbr
    • Genspark https://www.genspark.ai/

    • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

    • Claude https://claude.ai/

    • Gemini https://gemini.google.com/

    • DeepSeek https://www.deepseek.com/

    Check out this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoSFVjDsNvU


    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt

    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research

    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip

    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod

    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg

    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!

    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934

    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.

    We really appreciate your support.

    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by HubSpot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.


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