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    Risky or Not?

    Risky or Not is a short podcast from Professor Ben Chapman from North Carolina State University, and Dr. Don Schaffner from Rutgers University. Dr. Don and Professor Chapman promise to do their best not to waffle, dither, dissemble or equivocate, and to give straight up answers about whether something is risky or not.

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    Copyright: © Don Schaffner and Ben Chapman 2021

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    Latest Episodes:
    245. Licking an Ice Sculpture Jan 03, 2022
    Show notes

    Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of licking an ice sculpture

    Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼 Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

    • Veronica Bryant (@NoroNerd) / Twitter
    • Mary Kathrynn (@marydidyaknow) / Twitter
    • Microbiological quality of ice used to refrigerate foods - ScienceDirect
    • Ice as a vehicle for diarrheagenic Escherichia coli - ScienceDirect
    • Ice sculpture - Wikipedia
    • Multi-pathogen waterborne disease outbreak associated with a dinner cruise on Lake Michigan - PubMed
    • Detection of Norovirus in Saliva Samples from Acute Gastroenteritis Cases and Asymptomatic Subjects: Association with Age and Higher Shedding in Stool - PubMed

    From David W. Tharp, Executive Director, International Association for Food Protection: I'm not sure when this "tradition" began, but I'm fairly certain that there was an ice sculpture at my first meeting in 1993. From memory, Charlie Felix was the liaison to the Packaged Ice Association (now International Packaged Ice Association). Charlie worked from 1966 to 1985 for the Foodservice and Packaging Institute (per his LinkedIn profile). He became a publisher and consultant after 1985 and was active in IAFP through 2012.


    244. Food Out of Temperature Control for 6 Hours Dec 31, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating food held out of temperature control for 6 hours.

    Dr. Don - risky ☣️ Professor Ben - risky ☣️

    • Merch — Risky or Not?
    • Hors d'oeuvre - Wikipedia
    • Mini Ham Quiches Recipe: How to Make It
    • Frank's RedHot® Buffalo Chicken Dip Recipe | Frank's RedHot® US
    • ComBase
    • Food Safety Talk 79: You're Into Botulism Country (with Merlin Mann) — Food Safety Talk

    243. Unrefrigerated Baileys Irish Cream After 6 Months Dec 29, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of consuming Baileys Irish Cream that has been unrefrigerated for 6 months.

    Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼 Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

    • Merch — Risky or Not?
    • Merch — Food Safety Talk
    • helloLCBO | Shelf Life & Storage of Cream Liqueurs - General Knowledge
    • John Roderick Performs "The Week Between" - YouTube
    • Ultimate Guide to Baileys: Does It Go Bad? – The Kitchen Community

    242. Brushing Teeth With Well Water Dec 27, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of brushing teeth with well water in a town in Ontario.

    Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼 Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

    • Helpless - YouTube
    • Omemee, Ontario - Wikipedia
    • Walkerton E. coli outbreak - Wikipedia
    • Set it and forget it! The greatest infomercial tagline? - YouTube
    • Medical officer of health - Wikipedia
    • Cryptosporidium in Milwaukee’s water supply caused widespread illness

    241. Unrefrigerated Pesto Dec 24, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of holding pesto unrefrigerated for an extended period of time.

    Dr. Don - risky ☣️ Professor Ben - risky ☣️

    • Merch — Risky or Not?
    • Boxing Day - Wikipedia
    • Current Food Safety Issues of Home-prepared Vegetables and Herbs Stored in Oil
    • Garlic-in-oil associated botulism: episode leads to product modification. | AJPH | Vol. 80 Issue 11
    • Outgrowth and Toxin Production by Clostridium botulinum in Bottled Chopped Garlic | Journal of Food Protection

    240. "Lightly" Pasteurized OJ Left at Room Temp for 24 Hours Dec 22, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of "lightly" pasteurized orange juice left at room temperature for 24 hours

    Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼 Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

    • Merch — Risky or Not?
    • Our Story | Simply® Beverages
    • CFR - Code of Federal Regulations Title 21 - definition of pasteurization
    • Botulism Associated with Commercial Carrot Juice — Georgia and Florida, September 2006
    • International Outbreak of Severe Botulism with Prolonged Toxemia Caused by Commercial Carrot Juice | Clinical Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic
    • Amazon.com: Customer Questions & Answers
    • Ultra-high-temperature processing - Wikipedia

    239. Turkey Meatballs From Jimmy Kimmels Steps Dec 20, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating turkey meatballs dropped on Jimmy Kimmels steps.

    Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼 Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

    • Merch — Risky or Not?
    • Happy birthday to @jimmykimmellive. Not only can this guy host the Oscars but he's a great dad, an incredible pizza chef, and he even has to-go boxes at his house! So much love for this generous and hilarious person. ❤️ #jimmykimmel #meatballs #italian #birthday #comedy #talkshowhost #dinner #partyfoul #storytime #story #funnystory #fyp #fy #fypage
    • Sorry, But The 5-Second Rule Was Debunked by Science Yet Again
    • A systematic look at the five-second rule: Miranda and Schaffner edition | barfblog
    • https://journals.asm.org/doi/pdf/10.1128/AEM.01838-16

    238. Raw Egg Eggnog Refrigerated for 6 Months Dec 17, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of drinking raw egg eggnog refrigerated for 6 months.

    Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼 Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

    • Merch — Risky or Not?
    • Plan Ahead: 30-Day Eggnog - Ruhlman
    • Survival of pathogenic microorganisms in an egg-nog-like product containing 7% ethanol - ScienceDirect
    • If Eggnog Has Eggs in it, Why Is it Safe to Drink? | NC State News
    • Would you like some eggs with your cocktail? | barfblog
    • Tainted Eggnog Fatal to 4 Residents of a County Nursing Home in Jersey - The New York Times
    • The Safe Way to Enjoy Eggnog This Winter | Homegrown | NC State University

    237. My Twinkie Smells Like Poop Dec 15, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating food near a sewage treatment plant.

    Dr. Don - not risky 👍🏼 Professor Ben - not risky 👍🏼

    • Merch — Risky or Not?
    • Death and miasma in Victorian London: an obstinate belief | The BMJ
    • Application of electronic nose as a non-invasive technique for odor fingerprinting and detection of bacterial foodborne pathogens: a review

    236. Eating 2,400 Year Old Soup Dec 13, 2021
    Show notes

    Dr. Don and Professor Ben talk about the risks of eating 2,400 year old soup.

    Dr. Don - risky ☣️ Professor Ben - risky ☣️

    • Merch — Risky or Not?
    • (4) Brett Weed on Twitter: "Hey @benjaminchapman and @bugcounter, eating 2,400 year old soup—#riskyornot?" / Twitter
    • Museum Archive on Twitter: "In 2010, Chinese archaeologists unearthed a 2,400-year-old bone soup in a sealed bronze cooking vessel near Xi'an in Northwest China. Because of oxidization, the soup turned green, but it was still in liquid form, and the bones were still floating on top https://t.co/IPolPGproi" / Twitter
    • In 2010, Chinese archaeologists unearthed a 2,400-year-old bone soup in a sealed bronze cooking vessel near Xi'an in Northwest China. Because of oxidization, the soup turned green, but it was still in liquid form, and the bones were still floating on top [500x750] : ArtefactPorn
    • Chinese archaeologists unearth 2,400-year-old 'soup' - BBC News
    • Crystalline Preparation of Botulinum Toxin Type a (Botox): Degradation in Potency with Storage - Michael G. Gartlan, Henry T. Hoffman, 1993
    • Measuring the potency labelling of onabotulinumtoxinA (Botox®) and incobotulinumtoxinA (Xeomin®) in an LD50 assay | SpringerLink
    • Botox: A review - ProQuest
    • Chinese archaeologists soon to taste 2400-year-old soup and wine?

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