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Ever wonder what it’s like to go on your first sober date? Or survive a wedding without liquid courage? How about dancing stone-cold sober or dealing with your first breakup without wine?

If so, you’re in luck because you can join bestselling authors and longtime sober friends Lisa Smith and Anna David as they talk to guests—and each other—about addiction and recovery, including all the “firsts” that come with sober living. From awkward to amazing, cringe-worthy to surprisingly poignant, they’re discussing what it’s like to experience life without substances.

Lisa is the author of the award-winning memoir Girl Walks Out of a Bar, while Anna wrote Party Girl, a comic novel about addiction and recovery in the vein of Rachel’s Holiday and Postcards From the Edge. Together, they explore the real-life moments behind the kinds of stories that shape how people understand recovery.

Whether you’re newly sober, sober-curious or just want to hear some honest stories about recovery, Recovery Rocks is here for all of it.

Because as it turns out, when you can remember everything that happened, life gets a lot more interesting.

New episodes weekly. Real stories, real recovery, real talk.

Latest Episodes:

Episode 197: Episode 197: On Quitting Everything With Special Guest Freda Love Smith Nov 09, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa welcome writer, teacher, and retired indie rock drummer, Freda Love Smith. Her new memoir, I Quit Everything explores addiction, intoxication, and the twilight of her musical career. They talked about Freda’s experiment taking time off from alcohol, sugar, caffeine, weed, and social media during the pandemic. For some people, those not experiencing full-blown addiction, quitting for a period of time can lead to intentionality when engaging with any substance later.

Music Minute features The Modern Lovers.

Buy I Quit Everything on Bookshop

Buy I Quit Everything on Amazon

Checkout Freda’s playlist for I Quit Everything

Read Freda’s essay for Lithub about narrating her audiobook

Find Freda on Instagram

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s advice column, "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 196: Episode 196: Grief in Sobriety With Special Guest Katie Mack Nov 02, 2023

Show notes

Tawny’s and Lisa’s good friend Katie Mack is back to talk about her latest project, #UGLYCRY, a one-woman show onstage in New York. Based on a true story, after the death of her ex-boyfriend, Mack, a grieving, social media-obsessed millennial brings him back to life with her phone. They talk about how grief looks different for everyone and changes over time, as well as how loved ones live on with us through the internet.

Music Minute features Lizzy McAlpine, Smashing Pumpkins, Band of Horses, and Rolling Stones.

Get tickets to #UGLYCRY. Put in MACK23 to get $10 tickets!

Check out Mack’s F*king Sober Podcast

Find Mack on Instagram and TikTok

Attend Tawny & Mack’s live interview after the November 12th performance of #UGLYCRY. Discount code mack23 gets you $10 tickets.

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s advice column, "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Check out AFTER Alcohol Free Magazine, where Tawny is on the cover of the Autumn issue!

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 195: Episode 195: Our Bodies. Our Brains Oct 26, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa talk about the importance of taking care of their bodies, which helps them take care of their brains. Tawny recently had bronchitis and when her doctor asked if she was using her asthma inhaler, she had forgotten all about her asthma! When she used it, it totally helped. Lisa has issues with her back and while she knows her physical therapy exercises would prevent flare-ups, she often stops doing them. The little things can be a pain to remember but they can make a big difference. Tawny and Lisa often talk about the importance of mental health, but this episode is dedicated to physical health because balance!

Music Minute features Bruce Springsteen, The Black Keys, and The Beatles.

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 194: Episode 194: Books, Books, Books Oct 19, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa went on reading sprees over the summer (nothing new – Tawny has already read 42 books this year!). They talk about some of their recent favorites, including RIPE, YELLOWFACE, OLD ENOUGH, and THE LAST CHAIRLIFT. They’re all new books from both emerging authors and an old favorite (John Irving) and all have compelling, unique messages.

Music Minute features two of Tawny’s recent favorite audiobooks, How To Be Perfect and

and The Perfectionist's Guide to Losing Control.

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 193: Episode 193: Leaning into Negative Feelings Oct 12, 2023

Show notes

Recent research suggests that people who habitually judge negative feelings — such as sadness, fear and anger — as bad or inappropriate have more anxiety and depression symptoms and feel less satisfied with their lives than people who generally perceive their negative emotions in a positive or neutral light. Tawny and Lisa discuss how they try to keep their negative feelings in context. They also incorporate tools, such as somatic therapy, journaling, and talking, to find relief.

Music Minute features Heart, Garbage.

Read The New York Times' article.

Check out the study.

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 192: Episode 192: Showing Up for Others Oct 05, 2023

Show notes

One of the things Tawny and Lisa love about sober life is being able to show up for other people, often people they couldn’t truly show up for before. But showing up isn’t always on our time – we don’t control who plans what and when. They talk about those times and how they handle them. Tawny was in a wedding the weekend before her book launch! Clear communication, as well as managing boundaries and expectations, are key.

Music Minute features The Rembrandts and the GoGos.

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 191: Episode 191: Special Guest Amanda Kuda Sep 28, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa talk with Amanda Kuda, an alcohol-free lifestyle expert and the author of the upcoming book, Unbottled Potential: Break Up with Alcohol and Break Through To Your Best Life. Amanda is also a holistic life coach and speaker. She teaches a modern approach to personal development, self-actualization and spiritual enlightenment through the lens of elective sobriety. They talk about all the ways that dropping alcohol makes room for us to discover and pursue things that make us less stressed and more joyful.

Music Minute features Whitney Houston and Hanson.

Find Amanda on Instagram: Instagram, TikTok, and her website.

Order Unbottled Potential

Are You A Comfort Zone Drinker? Take Amanda’s quiz.

Sign up for Amanda’s Free Mini-Course Awakened Without Alcohol

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s sober dating & relationships advice column "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 190: Episode 190: DRY HUMPING (Tawny’s book) IS HERE! Sep 21, 2023

Show notes

Tawny’s officially a published author! Her book, DRY HUMPING, is the book she needed when she was newly sober and terrified of dating and intimacy. Tawny’s book baby is out and on sale wherever you get your books! Tawny and Lisa talk all about DRY HUMPING and how it will help readers on sober and sober-curious journeys have better dates, sex, and partnerships. It’s the book Tawny wishes she had when she first ditched the booze. She refutes the notion of “liquid courage” as a useful tool to loosen up. The book offers tons of tools, including:

· Booze-free date ideas

· Scripts for awkward conversations

· Interviews with experts

· Thought-provoking prompts

· Perspectives from a diverse range of regular people

· And more!

Music Minute features Khruangbin, the Stranger Things soundtrack, and Tawny’s Dry Humping playlist

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Check out AFTER Alcohol Free Magazine, where Tawny will be on the cover of the Autumn issue!

This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 189: Episode 189: Pre-Launch Catch Up Sep 14, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa catch up on what’s been going on this summer. DRY HUMPING is out September 19! Tawny talks about recording her audiobook, pre-launch stress and how she’s managing the things she can’t control. Lisa talks about her presentation to first-year law students at Vanderbilt Law School and how important it is for young people going into high-stress professions to understand how to take care of their mental health and watch for signs of addiction.

Music Minute features Qveen Herby, the Stranger Things soundtrack, Bo Burnham, and Bruce Springsteen.

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s sober dating & relationships advice column "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 188: Episode 188: Special Guest Celeste Yvonne Sep 07, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa chat with Celeste Yvonne, author of It’s Not About the Wine: The Loaded Truth About Mommy Wine Culture. She is a certified sober coach (IAPRC) with over 20 years of experience as a communications professional in corporate America. Her writing has been featured in The Washington Post, Good Morning America, The Wall Street Journal, and others. Celeste is founding host of the Sober Mom Squad and advocates for mothers who struggle with addiction and mental health.

Music Minute features Taylor Swift.

Find Celeste on her website and order It’s Not About the Wine here.

This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s sober dating & relationships advice column "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

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