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Ever wonder what it’s like to go on your first sober date? Or survive a wedding without liquid courage? How about dancing stone-cold sober or dealing with your first breakup without wine?

If so, you’re in luck because you can join bestselling authors and longtime sober friends Lisa Smith and Anna David as they talk to guests—and each other—about addiction and recovery, including all the “firsts” that come with sober living. From awkward to amazing, cringe-worthy to surprisingly poignant, they’re discussing what it’s like to experience life without substances.

Lisa is the author of the award-winning memoir Girl Walks Out of a Bar, while Anna wrote Party Girl, a comic novel about addiction and recovery in the vein of Rachel’s Holiday and Postcards From the Edge. Together, they explore the real-life moments behind the kinds of stories that shape how people understand recovery.

Whether you’re newly sober, sober-curious or just want to hear some honest stories about recovery, Recovery Rocks is here for all of it.

Because as it turns out, when you can remember everything that happened, life gets a lot more interesting.

New episodes weekly. Real stories, real recovery, real talk.

Latest Episodes:

Episode 207: Episode 207: Good News and Sad News: Announcing Our Card Deck & Honoring Matthew Perry Jan 18, 2024

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa announce their new card deck out next fall! The Sobriety Deck is for anyone making the choice not to drink today, whether sober or sober-curious. It will provide support, guidance and inspiration in an easy-to-use format that can be drawn on anytime you need a little boost or help. While the deck is a real light, they also discuss the realistic side of recovery: when there’s good news, there’s often bad news, too. Lisa and Tawny discuss Matthew Perry’s heartbreaking death.

Check out these card decks: Hack Your Nervous System, Music Oracles, The Numinous Astro Deck, and Meditations and Affirmations

Music Minute features The Rembrandts.

Try Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses)

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 206: Episode 206: Productivity Dysmorphia Jan 11, 2024

Show notes

Tawny discovered a name for the Venn diagram of burnout, imposter syndrome, and work addiction than many of us struggle with: Productivity Dysmorphia. Focused on output and feeling like we’re never doing enough, productivity dysmorphia keeps us from understanding how much we truly do and have already done. To fight it, we can recognize it as a feeling (not a fact) and ask ourselves if we really need to do the next thing we’re adding to our plate.

Music Minute by The Band.

Read about productivity dysmorphia.

Check out these books: The Success Myth, Rest is Resistance, Body Neutral, and The Burnout Workbook

Try Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses)

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 205: Episode 205: Heading into 2024 Jan 04, 2024

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa talk about what’s ahead in 2024. It’s a Strength card year in the Tarot – showing up and standing with a lion. And we know it’s going to be a challenging year in U.S. with so much at stake in our election. How do we take care of ourselves? One day at a time, for sure. And also asking, how can I “go first” in my life, while still showing up for everything and everyone we need to.

Music Minute features Bruce Springsteen and Creedence Clearwater Revival.

Read The Twilight of Democracy.

Check out the New York City Tarot.

Try Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses)

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 204: Episode 204: Special Guest Dr. Brooke Scheller Dec 28, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa talk to Dr. Brooke Scheller, the creator of Functional Sobriety and New York City’s top nutritionist specializing in alcohol use. Her new book, How to Eat to Change How You Drink, is a guide to leverage food and nutrition to reduce or eliminate alcohol consumption, develop mindfulness, and promote a healthier relationship with alcohol.

Music Minute features Jewel

Find all things Dr. Brooke Scheller here.

Order How to Eat to Change How You Drink.

Follow Brooke on Instagram.

Try Tawny’s new NA drink, (parentheses)

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 203: Episode 203: Fur Babies & Mental Health with Special Guest Carrie Finch, LCSW of PAWS NY Dec 21, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa talk with Carrie Finch, Deputy Director of PAWS NY, an organization which provides pet care support to older adults and individuals living with illness, substance abuse, or disability in New York City, allowing these families to stay together and thrive. PAWS NY recently launched a new Substance Use Recovery Program, which provides foster and emergency care for pets as their guardians seek inpatient treatment for substance use.

Music Minute features Queen and Bob Marley.

Check out PAWS NY at pawsny.org.

Find PAWS NY on Instagram.

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 202: Episode 202: Sobriety & Money with Special Guest Jill Sirianni, LCSW of Frugal Friends Podcast Dec 14, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa interview Jill Sirianni, co-host of the podcast Frugal Friends, which aims to change how we think about frugality. It does not mean being cheap. Frugal living intersects with minimalism, simple living and sustainability. Many of us have financial stress, often left over from when we abused substances. They talk about how practicing curiosity around finances can help identify priorities in developing a plan.

Music Minute features Thrice.

Check out Frugal Friends podcast website, which also offers a newsletter and free tools.

Find Frugal Friends on Instagram.

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 201: Episode 201: Special Guest Gina Moffa, LCSW on Grief Dec 07, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa interview Gina Moffa, author of the new book Moving On Doesn’t Mean Letting Go: A Modern Guide to Navigating Loss. Grief can show up over a death, the end of a friendship or relationship, or an ambiguous loss. Gina takes an honest look at how grief affects our lives and provides a heartfelt, practical map through the dark terrain of loss, shifting the pain of grief even when things feel unpredictable and overwhelming.

Music Minute features Joni Mitchell.

Buy Moving On Doesn't Mean Letting Go

Find all things Gina at ginamoffa.com

Find Gina on Instagram

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Check out AFTER Alcohol Free Magazine, where Tawny is on the cover of the Autumn issue!

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 200: Episode 200: Our 200th Episode! And the Being Sober for the Holidays Nov 30, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa celebrate 200 episodes of Recovery Rocks and send a giant thank you to all of the listeners! It’s also the fifth holiday episode. They talk about getting through the season in a way that keeps their recoveries strong. That means planning ahead, setting boundaries, and taking time for themselves. As always, “No,” is a complete sentence, but no one has to navigate the holidays alone either.

Music Minute features Hanson and Wham!

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Sign up for "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 199: Episode 199: Burnout Nov 23, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa talk about burnout, a term that’s everywhere these days, but can sometimes be hard to spot in ourselves. A recent article from The New York Times, "Your Body Knows When it's Burned Out," lays out both the symptoms of burnout and how you might address them. It helps to recognize burnout when it begins to appear. Then we are able to question the causes and begin – slowly and in our own ways – to alleviate the chronic stressors that caused it.

Music Minute features Khruangbin and Blondie.

Check out The Burnout Workbook

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s advice column, "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 198: Episode 198: Rites of Passage Nov 16, 2023

Show notes

Tawny got married! She and Lisa talk about life milestones and rites of passage sans alcohol. While being grateful for living lives beyond what they expected when quitting booze, they also recognize that there are no guarantees in life. They talk about not relying on external events (marriage, moves, kids) to “fix” their lives. The most important thing is working to become comfortable and confident in who we are on our own.

Music Minute features Billy Idol and Bleachers.

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s advice column, "Beyond Liquid Courage"

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

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