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Ever wonder what it’s like to go on your first sober date? Or survive a wedding without liquid courage? How about dancing stone-cold sober or dealing with your first breakup without wine?

If so, you’re in luck because you can join bestselling authors and longtime sober friends Lisa Smith and Anna David as they talk to guests—and each other—about addiction and recovery, including all the “firsts” that come with sober living. From awkward to amazing, cringe-worthy to surprisingly poignant, they’re discussing what it’s like to experience life without substances.

Lisa is the author of the award-winning memoir Girl Walks Out of a Bar, while Anna wrote Party Girl, a comic novel about addiction and recovery in the vein of Rachel’s Holiday and Postcards From the Edge. Together, they explore the real-life moments behind the kinds of stories that shape how people understand recovery.

Whether you’re newly sober, sober-curious or just want to hear some honest stories about recovery, Recovery Rocks is here for all of it.

Because as it turns out, when you can remember everything that happened, life gets a lot more interesting.

New episodes weekly. Real stories, real recovery, real talk.

Latest Episodes:

Episode 177: Episode 177: Special Guest Molly Ruggere Jun 22, 2023

Show notes

Recently recognized by Axios Charlotte on its list of “25 women helping to shape Charlotte in 2023," Molly Ruggere is a writer, Certified Lumia Life Coach, Certified This Naked Mind Coach and Founder of Counterculture Club, a global alcohol-free community, based in Charlotte, NC, challenging the mainstream belief that alcohol is a necessity for connection and a fulfilling, fun life, using social proof and science. They talk about how Molly left New York City for Charlotte to get sober and the vibrant online and IRL community for folks choosing not to drink, even for an evening.

Music Minute features Incubus, Flaming Lips and going to live music shows sober.

Click here to check out all things Counterculture Club.

Click here to learn about Molly’s coaching practice.

Find Molly and Counterculture Club on Instagram.

This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 176: Episode 176: Special Guest Ruby Warrington Jun 15, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa talk to acclaimed author and friend, Ruby Warrington, about her new book, WOMEN WITHOUT KIDS: THE REVOLUTIONARY RISE OF AN UNSUNG SISTERHOOD. Many listeners will know Ruby from her groundbreaking book, SOBER CURIOUS, which coined the term. With 20+ years’ experience as a lifestyle journalist and editor, Ruby is known as an astute cultural commentator and true thought leader. They talk about society’s view on women without kids, generational caretaking, and how we value what we do with our lives.

Music Minute features Madonna in Desperately Seeking Susan.

Click here for all things Ruby.

Buy WOMEN WITHOUT KIDS.

Click here to listen to our 2019 episode with Ruby and Tawny’s Dad.

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 175: Episode 175: Special Guest Sarah Levy Jun 08, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks

Tawny and Lisa talk to Sarah Levy, the author of the fantastic new book, “Drinking Games.” The book is part memoir and part social critique, telling the story of how Sarah drank and lived― and how, for her, the last drink was just the beginning. They talk about keeping friends in sobriety, the power of community, social media, and the importance of avoiding the “compare and despair” mentality.

Music Minute features the Hamilton soundtrack.

Buy Drinking Games.

Check Sarah out on Instagram.

Find all things Sarah here.

Pre-Order Tawny’s book,Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s Sober Dating & Relationships Column, Beyond Liquid Courage

Purchase Lisa’s memoir,Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 174: Episode 174: Special Guest Laura Silverman Jun 01, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Laura is an alcohol-free advocate and longtime friend of Tawny and Lisa. She’s the founder of Zero Proof Nation and Booze Free in DC, two platforms focused on highlighting non-alcoholic beverages and the culture driving their growth. Laura was recently in London to be a judge at the inaugural World Alcohol Free Awards! They talk all things NA drinks and about how working to normalize NA consumption helps Laura’s own sobriety.

Music Minute features Dispatch and Regina Spector

Check out Zero Proof Nation

And Booze Free in DC

Find Laura on Instagram: @wearsober and @zeroproofnation

Contribute to Laura’s crowdsourcing campaign!

Pre-Order Tawny’s book,Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s Sober Dating & Relationships Column, Beyond Liquid Courage

Purchase Lisa’s memoir,Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 173: Episode 173: Special Guest Anna David May 25, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks

Tawny and Lisa talk to sober trailblazer Anna David about her new book, “On Good Authority: How Founders and CEOs Can Prepare, Promote and Profit from a How-To Book that Makes Them the Go-To Expert,” as well as all things sober. Finding your passion can lead to becoming an expert and building a career. But at the end of the day, one of the best feelings in sobriety is helping the next person.

Music Minute features SZA, Taylor Swift, and Lizzo.

Click here for all things Anna David!

Buy ON GOOD AUTHORITY

Pre-Order Tawny’s book,Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s Sober Dating & Relationships Column, Beyond Liquid Courage

Purchase Lisa’s memoir,Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 172: Episode 172: Special Guest Simone Finch May 18, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Simone Finch is the Creator and Executive Producer, of Tawny’s and Lisa’s favorite television show, “Single Drunk Female,” on Hulu. She’s also a friend of the podcast! They all talk about the show’s second season (Tawny went to the premiere!), second-year sobriety, and how talking about recovery at work is not the same as working on your recovery.

Music Minute features Jessie Ware, Beyonce, and going to concerts without drinking.

Watch Single Drunk Female!

Check out Simone on Instagram.

Pre-Order Tawny’s book,Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Subscribe to Tawny’s Sober Dating & Relationships Column, Beyond Liquid Courage

Purchase Lisa’s memoir,Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 171: Episode 171: Managing Expectations May 11, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks

Tawny and Lisa talk about how high expectations can lead to low serenity, disappointment and negative self-talk. Tawny thinks about the saying, “you can do anything, you can’t do everything,” Often, unrealistic expectations come from an inability to accept a certain fact, situation or person as they truly are, which can lead to codependency and trying to “fix” things. They also talk about the need to avoid expecting something external to make everything ok internally. It’s important to stay in today and remember where your feet are.

Music Minute features: Gin Blossoms and Queen & David Bowie.

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 170: Episode 170: Special Guest Talia Bennick of Crisp & Crude May 04, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Tawny and Lisa chat with Talia Bennick, who launched Crisp & Crude zero proof cocktails in Austin in 2020. After going alcohol-free to manage migraine pain, Talia realized how beneficial this change was to her quality of life but was consistently disappointed about being underserved for the better part of a decade. So, she developed the four Crisp & Crude flavors herself. Each flavor contains mood-lifting botanical extracts from plants, fruits and roots, plus a line with CBD. They talk about the origins of the line, as well as getting alcohol free drinks normalized in restaurants, the workplace, and beyond.

Music Minute features the playlist for each Crisp & Crude flavor and Beyonce.

Get a discount on Crisp & Crude with discount code RECOVERYROCKS15

Find Crisp & Crude on socials @drinkcrispandcrude

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 169: Episode 169: The Right to Nonreligious Rehab Apr 27, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks

Tawny and Lisa discuss the New York Times article linked below, advocating for offering paths to recovery other than Alcoholics Anonymous, in which a Higher Power is a central concept. Lisa talked about her experience with being directed toward AA and the “take what you need, leave the rest,” mentality. They are grateful that alternative programs like SMART Recovery, She Recovers, Monument, and The Luckiest Club, and others, giving people choices to find what’s right for them. They also discuss the concept of “powerlessness.” And the fact that Bill W., the founder of AA, was a fan of LSD!

Music Minute features REM, Ariana Grande, Lil Nas X, and “Spirit in the Sky.”

Find the NYT article here

You’re Wrong About podcast

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 168: Episode 168: Special Guest Laura Cathcart Robbins Apr 20, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Tawny and Lisa talk with Laura Cathcart Robbins about her must-read new #quitlit memoir, “Stash, My Life in Hiding.” After concealing her addiction from everyone in her life, she sought recovery while facing divorce, the possibility of a grueling custody battle, and internalized racism. They talk about the power of trusting their intuition, the issues around divorce, and putting on a façade for the world. Laura also shares about “shide,” the painful mix of shame and Pride.

Laura also is the host of the popular podcast, “The Only One In The Room,” and her recent articles in Huffpo and The Temper on the subjects of race, recovery, and divorce have garnered her worldwide acclaim.

Music Minute features Amy Winehouse, Taylor Swift, Doja Cat, and The Weekend.

You can find “Stash” here

Laura’s podcast

On IG

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

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