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Ever wonder what it’s like to go on your first sober date? Or survive a wedding without liquid courage? How about dancing stone-cold sober or dealing with your first breakup without wine?

If so, you’re in luck because you can join bestselling authors and longtime sober friends Lisa Smith and Anna David as they talk to guests—and each other—about addiction and recovery, including all the “firsts” that come with sober living. From awkward to amazing, cringe-worthy to surprisingly poignant, they’re discussing what it’s like to experience life without substances.

Lisa is the author of the award-winning memoir Girl Walks Out of a Bar, while Anna wrote Party Girl, a comic novel about addiction and recovery in the vein of Rachel’s Holiday and Postcards From the Edge. Together, they explore the real-life moments behind the kinds of stories that shape how people understand recovery.

Whether you’re newly sober, sober-curious or just want to hear some honest stories about recovery, Recovery Rocks is here for all of it.

Because as it turns out, when you can remember everything that happened, life gets a lot more interesting.

New episodes weekly. Real stories, real recovery, real talk.

Latest Episodes:

Episode 167: Episode 167: Special Guest Laura McKowen Apr 13, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks

Tawny and Lisa talk to Laura McKowen, author of the bestselling memoir We Are the Luckiest:

The Surprising Magic of a Sober Life. In 2020, Laura founded The Luckiest Club, a global sobriety support community. Her new book, Push Off from Here: Nine Essential Truths to Get You Through Sobriety (and Everything Else), is available now. The book is a modern exploration of addiction that offers nine foundational building blocks every person at any stage of sobriety can use.

Music Minute features Taylor Swift and her brilliant lyricism

Find Laura here

Purchase Laura’s second book, Push Off from Here: Nine Essential Truths to Get You Through Sobriety (and Everything Else)

Follow her: @laura_mckowen @theluckiestclub

Find Laura’s Spotify Playlists

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 166: Episode 166: Special Guest Emily Lynn Paulson Apr 06, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar! Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Emily Lynn Paulson is the author of Highlight Real: Finding Honesty and Recovery Beyond the Filtered Life, and the forthcoming, Hey, Hun: Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing. She’s also the founder of Sober Mom Squad, which is a terrific online support community. Emily and Tawny both dig deep into their experiences in the world of MLMs, their cult-like aspects, and the role that alcohol plays in them.

Music Minute features Pearl Jam and Nirvana.

Find Emily here

Find Sober Mom Squad here

Pre-order Emily’s Book, Hey, Hun: Sales, Sisterhood, Supremacy, and the Other Lies Behind Multilevel Marketing, here

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 165: Episode 165: Spring Catch-Up Chat Mar 30, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by Soberlink's commitment to accountability for folks in recovery. Request an exclusive $50 off promo code by visiting: www.soberlink.com/recovery-rocks

Welcome to Spring! Tawny and Lisa caught up on what they’re reading and watching. Television includes some old-school TV, from The Office and The IT Crowd to the BBC Mystery series. They’re also looking forward to season 2 of Single Drunk Female! Tawny also shares updates about her debut book, Dry Humping, about sober sex and dating, coming out in September!

Music Minute features the songs from the 2023 Oscars and electronic music for Tawny’s

Writing.

Some recent favorite books:

I Have Some Questions for You by Rebecca Makkai

Transformer: The Complete Lou Reed Story by Simon Doonan

The Writing Retreat by Julia Bartz

The Guns of August by Barbara W. Tuchman

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 164: Episode 164: Special Guest Zach Braff Mar 23, 2023

Show notes

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar. Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid

Tawny and Lisa interviewed actor, writer, and director Zach Braff! A Good Person, his latest film, is a gripping story of addiction, grief, and moving on. It stars Florence Pugh, Morgan Freeman, and Molly Shannon. The three of them discuss writing about addiction and grief, sober curiosity, how hobbies can help folks in recovery, and more.

Music Minute features the role of music in Zach’s work. (We recommend the iconic soundtrack to his 2004 movie, Garden State!)
 
A Good Person Trailer 
Find A Good Person movie

 Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without the Booze
Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

Episode 163: Episode 163: Rumination and How to Stop It Mar 16, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa talk about a recent piece in The New York Times entitled, “How to Stop Ruminating.” Rumination is described as that feeling when your thoughts about an event, conversation, or something else are so excessive and overwhelming that you can’t stop them, or they are impacting other aspects of your life. Ways to avoid the rumination cycle are 1) divert your attention, 2) set a worry timer, 3) immerse yourself in the moment and 4) avoid your triggers. Rumination tends to impact women more than men, as well as people prone to perfectionism or insecurity. But the cycle can be broken!

Music Minute features Carly Simon and the below study on lyrical analysis.

Read the New York Times article

Check out this wild study

Imposter Syndrome Video

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar! Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle (or two!) today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

Episode 162: Episode 162: Special Guest Ken Middleton, author of “Bamboozled: How Alcohol Makes Fools of Us All” Mar 09, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa talk with Ken Middleton, a wellness advocate and author of the upcoming book,

“Bamboozled: How Alcohol Makes Fools of Us All.” He is also the editor of the Medium

publication, “AINYF: Alcohol is Not Your Friend.” Ken helps people build the best versions of

themselves by demonstrating that alcohol holds us back from living life to the fullest. His

sobriety started as an experiment that ended up turbocharging his business. He educates others on the things he wish he had known earlier.

Music Minute features Lil Uzi Vert and Eminem

Order Ken’s Book here

Email Ken@kenmmiddleton.com to join the advanced team for “Bamboozled”

Find AINYF here

Follow Ken on Instagram here.

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar! Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle (or two!) today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

Episode 161: Episode 161: Special Guest Laura Crossett of Soberlink Mar 02, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa talk to Laura Crossett of Soberlink, which provides a hand-held, remote alcohol

breathalyzer, a great tool for accountability and rebuilding the trust of others. Laura is also in

long-term recovery and shares her recovery story out loud. She notes the challenges she had

trying to earn the trust of family members she alienated when she was using. They talk about

how alcohol/drug testing can be a helpful way to demonstrate someone’s commitment to staying

sober, which in turn can be a huge gift to both the person getting sober and the others in their

Lives.

Music Minute features Hoobastank and Counting Crows

Find Soberlink here

Email Laura at lcrossett@soberlink.com

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar! Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle (or two!) today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

Episode 160: Episode 160: Catching Up Feb 23, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa finally got their IRL reunion in New York City and are still buzzing about it.

Thanks again to everyone who voted for the podcast in the inaugural Signal Awards! They

talk about hanging out at the awards party, Tawny’s new fab apartment, and Lisa speaking at

Columbia Law School. And now you can pre-order Tawny’s book, DRY HUMPING: A GUIDE

TO DATING, RELATING, & HOOKING UP WITHOUT THE BOOZE!

Music Minute features Peaches & Herb and Madonna

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar! Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle (or two!) today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

Episode 159: Episode 159: Special Guest Shari Hampton Feb 16, 2023

Show notes

Tawny and Lisa catch up with their friend Shari Hampton, a certified life and recovery coach,

consultant, and founder of the non-profit Served Up Sober. They talk about what coaching is

(self-discovery, accountability, and support) and what it is not (therapy or 12-step sponsorship).

Coaching provides tools and ideas to help people reach goals that may feel out of reach.

The coach can’t do recovery work for someone else or want it more than they do, though.

A coach is one tool in the sobriety toolbox.

Music Minute features Beyonce and Cory Henry

Shari’s website and Instagram

Pre-Order Tawny’s book, Dry Humping: A Guide to Dating, Relating, and Hooking Up Without Booze

Purchase Lisa’s memoir, Girl Walks Out of a Bar

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar! Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle (or two!) today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

Episode 158: Episode 158: Special Guests Katie Mack and Kim Kearns! Feb 09, 2023

Show notes

Season 2 of F*cking Sober Podcast is out! Tawny and Lisa talk with its creator, Katie Mack, and

Kim Kearns, whose story of motherhood and sobriety is the basis of this season. Each season of F*cking Sober Podcast is a stand-alone eight-episode arc that unpacks the first 90 days of sobriety. It’s unique in the world of recovery podcasts. They talk about mommy wine culture from its origins to where it can lead. Also, Kim has a new book out, “On the Edge of Shattered” (link below).

Music Minute features Jimmy Buffet and Jessica Wilde.

@fckingsober90_podcast

@asoberandstrongmom

Listen to Webby-Winning Podcast, F*cking Sober here

Get Kim’s book here

This episode is sponsored by the sober entrepreneurs at Sour Humanoid vinegar! Add a splash of these artisanal vinegars to your dinner to brighten up the flavor of your protein and veggies. Order a bottle (or two!) today at sourhumanoid.com and follow them at @sourhumanoid.

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