MSL Talk

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Generative AI in Medical Affairs TODAY Aug 08, 2023

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In this episode, Tom Caravela is joined by Luca Dezzani to explore the intersection of innovation, AI, and medical affairs. Luca shares his career journey and passion for AI, discussing its transformative potential in medical science. The conversation delves into AI applications like generative AI and social listening, highlighting their current and future impact on healthcare. They address the importance of AI literacy for MSLs, alongside the challenges and cautions of AI adoption. The episode concludes with insights on evolving AI technologies and a call to action for listeners to engage with these advancements in their professional roles.

Today’s guest is Luca Dezzani, VP, US Oncology Medical Affairs at Johnson and Johnson and we discuss Generative AI in Medical Affairs TODAY

Luca shares….

👉 What is Generative AI (artificial intelligence)
👉 What medical affairs organizations are doing right now with AI
👉 The potential for Generative AI in Field Medical
👉 What do people and companies need to learn to keep up
👉 How fast is the field moving and what is currently trending
👉 What road blocks or challenges he sees coming for medical affairs

The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

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(0:00) Intro and Guest Introduction (0:17) Announcement of MSL Talk Live with Luca Dezzani (1:31) Luca Dezzani's Career in Medical Affairs (3:47) Luca's Interest in Innovation and AI (4:36) Sponsor: mslmastery.com (4:52) Generative AI in Medical Affairs (7:32) AI Applications and Advancements in Medical Affairs (12:03) AI and Social Listening in Medical Science (18:53) The Future Potential of AI in Healthcare (26:02) Preparing for AI Advancements in Medical Affairs (30:18) The Importance of Learning AI for MSLs (31:08) Challenges and Cautions with AI in Medical Affairs (33:48) AI Adoption Rate and Impact in the Medical Field (35:05) Transforming AI for Broader Medical Applications (35:55) AI Evolution: From Social Listening to Future Predictions (37:42) Conclusion and Call to Action

I Want to be an MSL Trainer…or do I? Aug 01, 2023

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In this episode, Jill Fenwick delves into the intricate world of MSL training, sharing her expertise and experiences. She highlights the strategic components and key responsibilities involved in crafting effective training programs. Jill discusses the role of engagement and gamification, addressing common misconceptions within MSL training. The conversation explores essential skills for MSL trainers, the importance of cross-functional collaboration, and the transition from MSL to trainer. Emphasizing networking's critical role, Jill offers insights into maintaining consistency across social media and training sessions. The episode wraps up with a teaser for the next installment.

Today’s guest is Jill Fenwick, Head of Medical Learning, Global Oncology Medical Unit with EMD Serono, discusses what it means to be an MSL Trainer and what MSLs may want to know about the role.

Jill shares….

👉 What it means to be an MSL Trainer
👉 The common misconceptions on what the trainer role entails
👉 How to go about pursuing a career as an MSL Trainer
👉 What challenges exist in the MSL Trainer role
👉 Advice and strategies for MSL success

The podcast is available through the links below:

️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

️ ️ 〰️ Stitcher: https://lnkd.in/eqB-2wb

️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

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(0:00) Introduction and guest overview (0:50) Jill Fenwick's background and role with announcement teaser (2:22) Key responsibilities and strategic components of MSL training (6:12) Engagement, gamification, and misconceptions in MSL training (10:03) Skills for effective MSL training and cross-functional collaboration (16:48) Challenges faced by MSL trainers and transitioning from MSL to trainer (22:21) Essential skills for MSLs and the importance of networking (29:13) Consistency in networking, social media, and training session management (31:22) Closing remarks, next episode teaser, and outro

What Do I Do on Monday? Finding Success AFTER Content Training Jul 25, 2023

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In this episode, Bobby Faison joins Tom Caravela to share his journey in the MSL field, beginning with his initial experiences and the challenges he faced in training. Bobby emphasizes the importance of developing soft skills and effective communication for MSLs, as well as strategies for securing appointments and honing necessary skills. He discusses mentorship and the value of preparation and practice in career growth. Tailored advice is provided for MSLs at various career stages, focusing on managing territories and building KOL relationships. Bobby also explores the future of MSL roles, including AI and omnichannel engagement, offering insights into broadening MSL perspectives beyond science.

Today’s guest is Bobby Faison, Executive Director, Medical Affairs with Paratek Pharmaceuticals who discusses how to find success for MSLs after content training

Bobby shares….

👉 How you need to approach your territory post training
👉 What skills are most necessary to develop and build to achieve success
👉 Pitfalls and what to watch out for in your territory
👉 How to stand out and differentiate yourself from your peers
👉 Other tips, tricks and strategies for success

The podcast is available through the links below:

️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

️ ️ 〰️ Stitcher: https://lnkd.in/eqB-2wb

️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

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(0:00) Introduction to the episode and guest Bobby Fasen (2:27) Bobby Fasen's career journey and initial MSL experience (4:02) Challenges in MSL training and the importance of soft skills (6:15) Relationship development and effective communication for MSLs (9:40) Strategies for MSLs: Securing appointments and developing skills (11:08) Mentorship, preparation, and practice in MSL career growth (16:10) Tailored advice for MSLs at different career stages (18:12) Managing a successful MSL territory and KOL relationships (24:03) Broadening MSL perspectives beyond science (27:50) Understanding healthcare providers and their interests (30:20) The future of MSL roles: AI, omnichannel engagement, and KOL preferences (32:46) Episode summary, appreciation, and closing remarks

Career Lattice: Finding Success, Satisfaction and Balance Jul 18, 2023

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In this episode, Stefanie Fish joins to discuss her journey and insights from her career in the pharmaceutical industry. She reflects on her initial motivations and entry into the field, highlighting the importance of mentorship and leadership in overcoming early management challenges. Stefanie emphasizes the role of core values and personal fulfillment in career decisions, particularly her return to an MSL role. She shares strategies for balancing career and personal well-being, the impact of relationships and networking, and evaluating company culture. Stefanie also offers her perspectives on job satisfaction and future plans, concluding with advice on networking in the pharma industry.

Stefanie Fish, Senior Regional Director, West, Hematology with BeiGene discusses how her career journey has led to her current success and career satisfaction

Stefanie shares….

👉 Her motivations and key factors for career transitions
👉 The PEOPLE factor and how important it is
👉 Asking the right questions…of others and yourself
👉 How to assess the culture of a company (even when you do not know anyone)
👉 The importance of science and other key factors

The podcast is available through the links below:

️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

️ ️ 〰️ Stitcher: https://lnkd.in/eqB-2wb

️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

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(0:00) Introduction and guest introduction (1:06) Acknowledgment of Paul Ward's contributions and Stephanie's career overview (2:48) Stephanie's entry into the pharmaceutical industry and personal motivations (5:00) Mentorship, leadership experiences, and early management challenges (10:01) Core values and motivations in career decisions (12:39) The significance of personal fulfillment in returning to an MSL role (17:19) Balancing career and personal well-being (21:47) The role of relationships and networking in career advancement (22:53) Evaluating company culture and interview preparation (27:57) Stephanie Fish's future plans and perspectives on job satisfaction (29:22) Networking and maintaining connections in the pharma industry (30:12) Closing remarks, appreciation for listeners, and future announcements

The Cancer-tainer and Influencer of Things Jul 11, 2023

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In episode 162, Matt Zachary shares his transformative journey from a brain cancer diagnosis at 21 to becoming a prominent advocate. He recounts his initial misdiagnosis, the decision to decline chemotherapy, and the pivotal moment of founding Stupid Cancer. Matt highlights the impact of media in advocacy and his ventures, including The Stupid Cancer Show and Off Script Health. He introduces his book "Permission to be Pissed" and discusses the importance of authenticity in advocacy. Matt offers insightful advice for pharmaceutical professionals and promotes his podcast "Out of Patience," encouraging listeners to engage with his work and advocacy efforts.

Todays guest is Matt Zachary, Entertainer, podcaster, speaker, cancer rebel and advocate. Matt shares his incredible cancer journey and how it led to his amazing career.

Matt shares….

👉 His story of surviving a brain tumor at the age of 21
👉 How and why he refused treatment but still survived
👉 His opinions and commentary on healthcare and everything in it
👉 Advice to anyone and everyone that will listen
👉 His comedic approach to serious topics

The podcast is available through the links below:

️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

️ ️ 〰️ Stitcher: https://lnkd.in/eqB-2wb

️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

#msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

(0:00) Introduction of Matt Zachary and career journey (2:41) Matt's diagnosis with brain cancer at 21 and initial misdiagnosis (6:32) MRI confirmation and treatment decisions (14:05) Discussing chemotherapy dosage and declining treatment (20:00) Matt's transition to advocacy with the birth of Stupid Cancer (24:38) The role of media in advocacy and launching The Stupid Cancer Show (27:02) Creation of Off Script Health and writing a book (29:32) Introducing "Permission to be Pissed" and staying true in advocacy (33:26) Advice for pharmaceutical professionals (36:29) Promoting Matt Zachary's podcast "Out of Patience"

Personal Finance Strategies for Medical Science Liaisons Jun 27, 2023

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In episode 161, Gerard Deisenroth from Ipsen joins the discussion on the crucial topic of personal finance for MSLs. Gerard shares insights into financial literacy initiatives at Ipsen and underlines the significance of budgeting and maximizing 401(k) contributions. The conversation covers short and long-term financial planning, managing expenses, and prioritizing debt repayment. Gerard also addresses common financial pitfalls, such as impulsive spending and procrastination, and emphasizes the value of financial planning tools and community support. The episode wraps up with a look ahead at upcoming topics.

Todays guest is Gerard Deisenroth, PharmD, Director of Field Medical Excellence at Ipsen, who discusses personal finance strategies for Medical Science Liaisons
Gerard shares…

👉 The need for personal finance education for medical affairs professionals
👉 How to start and basics of personal finance strategies
👉 Common mistakes made by professionals in how they handle finances
👉 Advice on short and long term strategies for personal finance

The podcast is available through the links below:

️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

️ ️ 〰️ Stitcher: https://lnkd.in/eqB-2wb

️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS7XTUuk1XF5Tm5InADY6cA

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(0:00) Introduction of Gerard Deissenroff and episode topic (0:54) Weather chat and Gerard's professional background at Ipsen (3:48) Shoutout to listeners and personal finance for MSLs (7:09) Learning from financial mistakes and literacy groups at Ipsen (10:50) Financial challenges and the importance of budgeting (15:42) Maximizing 401(k) contributions and other company benefits (22:05) Short and long term financial planning strategies (24:22) Managing car expenses and prioritizing debt repayment (26:17) Avoiding common financial mistakes and procrastination (28:47) Budgeting, impulsive spending, and financial stress (33:00) Utilizing financial planning tools and community discussions (36:17) Episode wrap-up and future topics

The “HOLE” in Medical Affairs Hiring and Recruitment Jun 20, 2023

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In this episode, Robin Winter-Sperry joins to discuss the intricacies of hiring in medical affairs. The conversation delves into the importance of well-defined job descriptions and the criteria for hiring, highlighting common bottlenecks in the process. Robin offers insights on interview preparation, assessment strategies, and the ideal makeup of an interview team. The episode also covers the structuring of interviews, effective questioning, and when to involve third-party search firms. Tom Caravela shares perspectives on evolving company requirements and the significance of substantiating resume claims. The discussion concludes with advice on researching roles and networking for career growth.

Today’s guest is Robin Winter-Sperry, MD, Senior Medical Affairs leader, who discusses the holes and frustrations in hiring medical affairs professionals
Robin shares….

👉 The main frustrations and bottlenecks in the hiring process for Medical Affairs
👉 The importance of process and team dynamics to find hiring success
👉 Interview tips and advice for job seekers
👉 Best practices for companies hiring MSLs

The podcast is available through the links below:

️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

️ ️ 〰️ Stitcher: https://lnkd.in/eqB-2wb

️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS7XTUuk1XF5Tm5InADY6cA

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(0:00) Introduction to the episode and guest Robin Wintersperry (0:14) Announcements and social media reminders (0:33) Robin Wintersperry's introduction and background (2:28) Importance of well-defined job descriptions in medical affairs (5:17) Criteria for hiring and goals for each position in medical affairs (6:10) Bottlenecks and challenges in the hiring process (9:13) Interview preparation and candidate assessment strategies (11:39) Ideal makeup of an interview team and interviewer training (17:06) Structuring the interview process and importance of debriefing (23:55) Effective organization of interview questions and curveball tactics (27:17) When to engage third-party search firms in the hiring process (30:52) Transition to questions for Tom Caravela (31:48) Evolution of company requirements and candidate profiles (34:25) The significance of substantiating resume claims (38:47) Researching companies and roles for successful interviewing (41:13) Networking for career advancement in medical affairs (44:35) Closing remarks and gratitude

What is Your MSL Superpower? Jun 13, 2023

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In this episode, Shannon Colton joins Tom Caravela to explore the concept of MSL superpowers and their impact on teams. They delve into identifying these unique strengths and how they can be leveraged effectively in Medical Science Liaison roles. Shannon introduces the Trading Card Icebreaker as a creative method for recognizing individual superpowers. The discussion also covers addressing confidence issues and imposter syndrome, strategies to prevent burnout, and the importance of human interaction amidst AI advancements. The episode concludes with thoughts on future MSL superpowers and building resiliency for long-term success.

Shannon Colton, Medical Trainer Consultant, discusses the importance of identifying and developing your MSL superpower.
She shares….

👉 What different types of MSL Superpowers exist
👉 Why it is important and what people are getting out of it
👉 How to develop confidence by understanding your superpower
👉 How this relates to KOL development
👉 What ways MSL can define value

The podcast is available through the links below:

️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

️ ️ 〰️ Stitcher: https://lnkd.in/eqB-2wb

️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS7XTUuk1XF5Tm5InADY6cA

Follow MSL Talk on:

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(0:00) Introduction of guest Shannon Colton and podcast reminders (2:41) Identifying and Understanding MSL Superpowers (4:10) The Trading Card Icebreaker for MSLs (8:48) Utilizing MSL Superpowers in Teams (12:26) Benefits of Recognizing Individual Superpowers (15:11) Tackling Confidence and Imposter Syndrome in MSL Roles (20:43) Strategies to Avoid Burnout and Build Confidence (24:25) Preparing for Future MSL Superpowers and Resiliency (26:33) Emphasizing Human Interaction in an AI Dominated Field (28:49) Wrapping Up: The Future of MSLs and Conclusion

How Omni-Channel Engagement Provides Strategic Value for MSLs Jun 06, 2023

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In this episode, Tom Caravela is joined by Donnie Wooten to explore the concept of omnichannel in medical affairs. Donnie provides an overview of omnichannel strategies, emphasizing their importance for personalization and engagement in the MSL role. The discussion highlights the benefits of omnichannel approaches, offers insights into overcoming implementation challenges, and underscores the necessity of customer profiling and value-driven strategies. Donnie also shares advice for MSLs on enhancing their omnichannel engagement, tracking key performance indicators, and adapting to the evolving digital landscape. The episode concludes with reflections on the future of MSL roles in the digital age.

This episode features Donnie Wooten, PharmD, Head of Global Field Medical Excellence at Organon who discusses how Omni-Channel engagement provides strategic value for field medical affairs
We discuss….

👉 What is Omni-Channel and how does it differ from Multi Channel
👉 Benefits of Omni-Channel for MSLs and Field Medical Organizations
👉 The challenges of Omni-Channel Engagement
👉 His advice for MSLs and how to implement Omni-Channel
👉 Ways Omni-Channel drives value

The podcast is available through the links below:

️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

️ ️ 〰️ Stitcher: https://lnkd.in/eqB-2wb

️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS7XTUuk1XF5Tm5InADY6cA

Follow MSL Talk on:

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(0:00) Introduction to MSL Talk and guest (1:16) Guest background and omnichannel explanation (3:16) Omnichannel in medical affairs and personalization (7:08) Omnichannel benefits and insights for MSLs (13:06) Challenges and implementation of omnichannel strategies (19:11) Ownership and advice for MSLs on omnichannel engagement (25:17) Customer profiling and scientific engagement in omnichannel (26:44) Value-driven omnichannel strategy and KPI tracking (31:06) MSL role evolution in the digital age (31:51) Closing remarks and outro

The Glorious Unknown: How GREAT Conversations Lead to GREAT Relationships May 30, 2023

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In this episode, Tom Caravela welcomes Stefan Joens to explore the nuances of the MSL role. Stefan shares insights from his personal and professional journey, emphasizing the importance of curiosity and care in MSL conversations. He provides valuable advice on overcoming rejection and building confidence, offering preparation tips for aspiring MSLs. The discussion covers defining the MSL role, enhancing presentation skills, and effective interview strategies. Stefan also delves into relationship-building techniques and the significance of discussing mutual interests. The episode concludes with Stefan's final thoughts and a call to action for listeners to engage on LinkedIn and YouTube.

This episode features Stefan Joens, President of Elnik Systems, who shares his thoughts on the “Glorious Unknown” and how great conversations lead to great relationships
We discuss….

👉 What he means by the Glorious Unknown
👉 How to get comfortable being uncomfortable
👉 How to develop confidence in your communication style
👉 His advice on asking questions
👉 Interview advice for job seekers

The podcast is available through the links below:

️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

️ ️ 〰️ Stitcher: https://lnkd.in/eqB-2wb

️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS7XTUuk1XF5Tm5InADY6cA

Follow MSL Talk on:

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(0:00) Introduction of guest Stefan Jerns (0:18) Reminder to connect on LinkedIn and YouTube (0:52) Welcoming and background of Stefan Jerns (2:24) Stefan's business, personal ventures, and the "glorious unknown" (6:27) Emphasizing curiosity and care in MSL conversations (9:02) Overcoming rejection and building confidence as an MSL (12:49) Preparation and confidence-building for MSLs (19:30) Defining the MSL role and improving presentation skills (21:57) MSL interview advice, asking questions, and relationship-building (27:40) Techniques for relationship-building in different contexts (30:57) Discussing mutual interests and recommended reading (35:01) Conclusion and final thoughts from Stefan Jerns (35:39) Outro and thanks to listeners

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