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    MSL Talk

    MSL Talk, hosted by Tom Caravela, MSL Recruiter and Founder of The Carolan Group, offers insights for Medical Science Liaisons, aspiring MSLs, and Medical Affairs leaders.

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    People First… Business Second Oct 24, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Tom Caravela is joined by Mark Freebery and Rachel Pater to explore the vital role of team culture in the MSL field. They discuss a people-first business philosophy and how fostering the right environment can significantly impact team dynamics. The conversation highlights the influence MSLs have on shaping culture and the importance of recognizing and building individualized connections. The episode delves into assessing cultural fit during interviews and ensuring psychological safety within teams. Additionally, they address balancing personal and professional boundaries and share strategies for professional development, concluding with remarks on the importance of team culture.

    This episode is sponsored by Syneos Health®, a leading fully integrated biopharmaceutical solutions organization built to accelerate customer success. Syneos translates unique clinical, medical affairs and commercial insights into outcomes to address modern market realities. Together they share insights, use the latest technologies and apply advanced business practices to speed customer delivery of important therapies to patients. Syneos supports a diverse, equitable and inclusive culture. To learn more about how Syneos is shortening the distance from lab to life®, visit syneoshealth.com.

    Mark Freebery, MSL Regional Director East, and Rachel Pater, Community Medical Liaison Director, West at Syneos Health discuss the importance of investing in people and putting interpersonal relationships first, business second.

    Mark and Rachel share…

    👉 The importance and benefits of great team culture
    👉 Why leaders need to invest in people
    👉 What MSLs can do to influence great team culture
    👉 Why and how to develop stronger interpersonal relationships
    👉 What is “psychological safety” and why is it important
    👉 Great examples of professional development programs for MSL teams

    The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

    ️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

    ️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

    ️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

    MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

    #msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

    (0:00) Introduction of guests and episode topic (0:22) Announcements and guest introductions (2:28) Sponsor: Syneos Health (3:24) People-first business philosophy and fostering the right environment (5:08) Importance and investment in team culture (11:40) MSLs' influence on team culture and recognition (18:28) Building individualized interpersonal connections (20:46) Comprehensive approach to assessing cultural fit during interviews (24:33) Psychological safety within team culture (28:37) Balancing personal and professional boundaries (33:00) Professional development strategies for MSLs (36:40) Closing remarks and sponsor mention

    Things will be HARD…but YOU can do hard things! Oct 17, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Sarah Snyder joins Tom Caravela to share insights on navigating the current pharmaceutical industry landscape. Sarah discusses her career journey, the impact of post-pandemic stress, and the emerging concept of "quiet cutting." The conversation delves into taking proactive steps in career management, the significance of controlling internal dialogue, and developing positive habits. Sarah also touches on parenting and personal growth during challenging times, highlighting the benefits of morning routines and cold plunging. The episode concludes with advice on maintaining integrity by avoiding gossip and expressing gratitude.

    Sarah Snyder, MSL Recruiter with The Carolan Group discusses her strategies and tactics for overcoming challenges, setbacks and tough times

    Sarah shares…

    👉 Best advice for those coming off of a set back
    👉 The Mel Robins technique for getting out of a bad mood
    👉 How does cold plunge help you
    👉 Personal development resources she recommends
    👉 Best ways to reframe your mind and mindset

    The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

    ️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

    ️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

    ️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

    MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

    #msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

    (0:00) Introduction to the episode and guest Sarah Snyder (1:07) Sarah Snyder's background, career journey, and inspiring quote (3:29) Current state of the pharmaceutical industry and post-pandemic stress (6:54) Concept of "quiet cutting" and job market emotions (11:16) Taking action and ownership of your career (13:22) Controlling internal dialogue and dealing with setbacks (18:35) Developing positive habits, routines, and managing worry (25:00) Parenting and personal development during challenging times (29:25) Morning routines and benefits of cold plunging (33:10) Importance of taking the high road and avoiding gossip (35:06) Final thoughts and gratitude

    Rethinking for Success: Top 10 Lessons for Embracing the MSL mindset through insights from Adam Grant’s “Think Again” Oct 10, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Tom Caravela is joined by Jeff Vaughn to explore the themes of Adam Grant's "Think Again". The discussion delves into intellectual humility, the importance of unlearning, and effective information dissemination. Tom and Jeff emphasize the value of embracing discomfort in communication and finding a balance between certainty and uncertainty. They explore the concepts of givers, takers, and matchers, offering insights into avoiding giver burnout and fostering psychological safety. The conversation also touches on the differences between education and real-world application and the importance of diverse personality types in teams. The episode concludes with reflections on the expert negotiator role and closing remarks.

    This weeks guest is Jeff Vaughan, Director, North America Field Medical Science at Inizio Engage discusses Rethinking for Success: Top 10 Lessons for Embracing the MSL mindset through insights from Adam Grant’s “Think Again”.

    This episode is sponsored Inizio Engage, a commercialization and strategic engagement partner for the healthcare industry, delivering solutions to meet the needs of patients, providers, payers, and pharmaceutical companies to improve the treatment experience and outcomes. Inizio creates personalized, impactful experiences and delivers an average of 5 million engagements annually across all healthcare stakeholders.

    Jeff shares…

    👉 Who is Adam Grant and why is this an important book
    👉 What are the main areas where MSLs can “rethink” their way to success
    👉 How does the book help with KOL development and relationships
    👉 How to use psychological safety and embracing uncertainty in your MSL role
    👉 How to be an expert “negotiator” according to Adam Grant

    The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

    ️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

    ️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

    ️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

    MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

    #msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

    (0:00) Introduction of Jeff Vaughn and episode topic (0:34) Tom Caravela's introduction to the podcast and Jeff Vaughn (1:14) Background on the episode and book review (2:34) Birthday wishes for Jeff and Sponsor: Company Name (3:28) Discussion on Adam Grant's "Think Again" (5:09) Intellectual humility and knowledge sharing (12:05) Rethinking information dissemination and unlearning (20:08) Embracing discomfort in communication (25:16) Balancing certainty with uncertainty (26:23) Understanding givers, takers, and matchers (28:23) Discerning takers and avoiding giver burnout (32:21) Creating psychological safety and the expert negotiator role (36:41) Education vs. real-world application (40:12) Encouraging diverse personality types in teams (42:26) Closing remarks and Sponsor: Company Name

    The Importance of Social Media Monitoring for MSLs Oct 03, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Tom Caravela welcomes Jason Howard to delve into the evolving role of a medical digital lead. Jason shares insights into the significance of social media monitoring and compliance in the pharmaceutical industry, highlighting the growing engagement of healthcare professionals on key platforms. The discussion extends to the current and future landscape of digital engagement, with an emphasis on the role of AI and generative tools in enhancing MSL responsibilities. Jason encourages embracing technological change within the field. The episode concludes with closing remarks and a call-to-action for listeners.

    My guest this week is Jason Howard, Medical Digital Lead at Sanofi. We discuss the importance of social media monitoring for MSLs.

    Jason shares….

    👉 What a “Medical Digital Lead” role entails
    👉 What does the term Social Media Monitoring mean (also known as social listening)
    👉 Why is Social Listening so important (and relevant vs 5 years ago)
    👉 Why MSLs need to use caution when social listening
    👉 What is next for Medical Affairs in this digital world

    The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

    ️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

    ️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

    ️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

    MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

    #msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

    (0:00) Introduction to the episode and guest Jason Howard (0:13) Announcements and thanks to listeners (0:50) Jason Howard introduction and background (1:34) Sponsor: Aspire MSL program (2:02) Role and importance of a medical digital lead (3:45) Social media monitoring and compliance in pharma (8:19) Key platforms and the growth of HCP engagement on social media (11:04) The current landscape and future of digital engagement in pharma (19:26) Role of AI and generative tools in enhancing MSL responsibilities (24:29) Embracing technological change in the MSL field (26:46) Closing remarks and guest appreciation (26:58) Show wrap-up and listener call-to-action

    G R I T – Surviving the Rocky Road of Pharma Sep 19, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Tom Caravela welcomes CoraLynn Trewet to share her insights on navigating the MSL career path. CoraLynn recounts her journey to her first MSL role and emphasizes the importance of trusting one's instincts in career decisions. The discussion explores the evolving landscape of healthcare and pharmaceuticals, dealing with unexpected job loss, and the significance of team culture at Biogen. CoraLynn highlights the mindset needed to embrace job instability and the value of networking and referrals in career advancement. She compares career progression to a jungle gym, emphasizing the importance of understanding one's "why" and maintaining confidence in the industry. The episode concludes with gratitude and final thoughts.

    My guest today is CoraLynn Trewet, Senior Medical Science Liaison, we discuss her career resiliency story and how she overcame 2 unexpected layoffs.

    CoraLynn shares….

    👉 What is the Rocky Road of Pharma and how can MSLs handle it
    👉 Her definition of G R I T
    👉 How she overcame 2 different Layoffs
    👉 Ways to utilize your network and why networking is so important
    👉 MSL career advice that is important to know

    The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

    ️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

    ️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

    ️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

    MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

    #msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

    (0:00) Introduction of Cora Lynn Truitt and episode theme (0:12) Tom Caravela's LinkedIn and MSL Talk Live Details (0:37) Welcome and Guest Introduction (1:55) Cora Lynn's Journey to Her First MSL Role (5:20) Trusting Your Gut in Career Decisions (7:46) Evolution of Healthcare and Pharmaceuticals (9:05) Navigating Unexpected Job Loss and Career Transitions (12:09) Building Team Culture and Facing Challenges at Biogen (17:25) Embracing Job Instability and Mindset at BMS (23:25) Networking and Referrals for Career Growth (25:12) Maintaining Confidence and Self-Worth in the Industry (28:00) Networking Strategies and Competitor Respect (29:23) Career Progression: Jungle Gym vs. Ladder (30:47) Doing Your Job Well and Knowing Your Why (32:37) Closing Remarks and Gratitude

    Why Medical Affairs Needs More Leadership Sep 12, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Scott Conry joins Tom Caravela to delve into the nuances of leadership within medical affairs. Scott shares his extensive experiences and challenges faced in leadership roles, offering insights into the development of essential leadership skills and building trust. The discussion covers tips for emerging leaders, the differences between in-house and outsourced leadership training, and fostering a leadership culture. Scott reflects on his journey, lessons learned from mistakes, and evolving trends in the field, emphasizing patient-centric leadership. The episode wraps up with closing thoughts and a preview of the next episode.

    Today’s guest is Scott Conry, Vice President, Head Oncology Field Medical at GSK discusses why Medical Affairs needs more leadership.

    Scott shares….

    👉 What it takes to be a great leader
    👉 Why there is a need for companies to develop people
    👉 What people need to do to stand out and position themselves for growth
    👉 How GOOD leaders unlock the potential of their team
    👉 Thoughts on outsourcing leadership development
    👉 What medical affairs needs to do to evolve

    The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

    ️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

    ️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

    ️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

    MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

    #msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

    (0:00) Introduction and guest overview with Scott Conry (2:01) Sponsor: Aspire MSL (2:38) Leadership challenges and experiences in medical affairs (7:37) Developing leadership skills and building trust (9:47) Tips for emerging medical affairs leaders (13:23) Comparing in-house and outsourced leadership training (19:29) Cultivating leadership culture in medical affairs (21:47) Scott Conry's comprehensive leadership journey (25:35) Lessons learned from leadership mistakes (28:16) Evolving trends in medical affairs leadership (31:23) The importance of patient-centric leadership (33:11) Closing remarks and next episode preview

    Types of Conferences MSLs Attend & How To Prepare... Sep 05, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, George Lehman joins to discuss the strategic role of Medical Science Liaisons (MSLs) at conferences. The conversation covers the importance of conference attendance for professional development, the responsibilities MSLs hold, and effective networking strategies. George explains how MSLs decide which conferences to attend and emphasizes setting clear goals and deliverables. The episode also covers compliance in conference interactions, pre-conference planning, and best practices for post-conference follow-up. Balancing territory management with conference responsibilities is explored, concluding with final thoughts and a call to action for listeners to subscribe.

    George Limen, Medical Liaison at Novo Nordisk discussed the types of conferences MSLs attend and how to prepare

    George Shares….

    👉 What are the types of conferences MSLs attend and why
    👉 Who are the targets for MSLs and who do they meet
    👉 What are the basic goals for MSLs to achieve at conferences
    👉 How do MSLs plan for events and what is the follow up routine like
    👉 Who covers the territory and how do you balance the effort when meetings happen

    The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

    ️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

    ️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

    ️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

    MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

    #msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

    (0:00) Introduction to MSL Talk with guest George Lehman (2:17) Sponsor: Aspire MSL program (2:50) MSL Conference Attendance and Professional Development (6:12) MSL Roles and Responsibilities at Various Conferences (10:19) Networking Strategies for MSLs at Conferences (13:16) How MSLs Decide Which Conferences to Attend (17:29) Setting Goals and Deliverables for Scientific Conferences (20:03) Ensuring Compliance During Conference Interactions (24:05) Effective Pre-Conference Planning for MSLs (31:04) Best Practices for Post-Conference Follow-Up (34:03) Balancing Territory Management and Conference Attendance (36:13) Final Thoughts and Acknowledgements (37:57) Episode Conclusion and Call to Subscribe

    How Information is Consumed Aug 29, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Tom Caravela is joined by Andrew Fariello from AstraZeneca to explore the evolving landscape of Medical Science Liaisons (MSLs) in the context of data sharing and technological advancements. Andrew shares his career journey and insights into the growing importance of surveillance networks and real-world data, especially following the pandemic. The discussion delves into adapting MSL strategies to handle information overload while integrating patient perspectives into medical strategies. Andrew emphasizes the critical role of MSLs, highlighting advancements in engagement and innovative tools. The episode concludes with advice for MSLs navigating scientific developments and a call to action for listeners.

    Today’s guest is Andrew Fariello, VP Global Medical Affairs, Head Medical Excellence, Oncology who discusses trends in information/data consumption and what MSLs can do for greater impact

    We learn….

    👉 How data is being shared as well as how it is being consumed
    👉 What he means by the term “instantaneous Information”
    👉 What role MSLs play in patient care and patient identification
    👉 How the MSL approach may need to change
    👉 Areas of improvement for MSLs in KOL engagement

    The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

    ️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

    ️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

    ️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

    MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

    #msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

    (0:00) Introduction of Andrew Fariello from AstraZeneca (0:19) Overview of the episode and reminders for listeners (0:56) Andrew Fariello's background and career journey (1:50) Sponsor: Aspire MSL program (2:29) Evolution of data sharing and impact of the pandemic on MSL roles (7:12) The growing importance of surveillance networks and real-world data (9:07) Adapting MSL strategies to new data and technologies (14:18) Addressing challenges in information overload and patient needs (16:14) Integrating patient perspectives into medical strategies (20:14) Advancements in MSL engagement and use of innovative tools (24:41) Validating the critical role of MSLs in an evolving landscape (26:50) Showcasing MSL team value and balancing engagement methods (29:38) Navigating scientific developments and offering advice to MSLs (32:04) Closing remarks and appreciation (32:29) Outro and call to action for listeners

    Global Perspective: Lessons ALL MSLs can learn from Aug 22, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Maja Beilmann-Schramm joins Tom Caravela to explore the intricacies of the MSL role, particularly in comparing global and US perspectives. They discuss the responsibilities and career progression paths for MSLs, along with the challenges in tracking KPIs and metrics. Maja highlights opportunities for learning and growth within the field, emphasizing the strategic importance and collaborative nature of the role. The episode delves into overcoming access issues, enhancing physician engagement, and creative connection strategies. Maja offers final advice on flexibility and openness, concluding with expressions of gratitude and a reminder to subscribe.

    Today’s guest is Maja Beilmann-Schramm, MSL Excellence Leader, who discusses how MSLs can learn from their global counterparts and what ALL MSLs can do to improve.

    Maja shares….

    👉 The differences that exist between US MSLs vs global, such as Europe
    👉 How KPIs and performance metrics differ in the US vs Global
    👉 What are the areas of growth and potential for MSLs (US or Global)
    👉 The need for MSLs to be more "strategic
    👉 The importance for MSLs to involve others

    The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

    ️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

    ️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

    ️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

    MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

    #msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

    (0:00) Introduction to guest Maya Beilman Schramm and podcast overview (3:12) Sponsor: Aspire MSL coaching and training program (3:47) Differences and similarities between global and US MSLs (6:34) Discussion on MSL roles, responsibilities, and career progression (8:26) Challenges in tracking KPIs and metrics for MSLs (10:10) Learning and growth opportunities for MSLs (13:59) Strategic importance and collaborative practices in the MSL role (21:50) Addressing access issues and improving physician engagement (25:00) Creative strategies for MSLs to connect with healthcare professionals (29:16) Final advice for MSLs: Flexibility, openness, and embracing the role (31:28) Closing remarks and gratitude (31:45) Sponsor message and subscription reminder

    Is Medical Affairs doing it all wrong? Aug 15, 2023
    Show notes

    In this episode, Carol Heggie joins Tom Caravela to delve into the complex world of medical affairs. Carol shares insights on whether the field is on the right track, highlighting challenges and common misunderstandings. The discussion emphasizes the importance of building valuable relationships and strategic partnerships in medical affairs. They explore the debate on metrics, addressing gaps, and the critical role of MSLs in career development amidst budget constraints. The episode also touches on public perception and the inherent risks faced by MSLs. Carol concludes with reflections on the indispensable value MSLs bring to the industry.

    Today’s guest is Carol Heggie, Vice President Medical Affairs who shares her thoughts on how Medical Affairs can evolve

    Carol shares….

    👉 Where does MSL and Medical Affairs Value come from?
    👉 The misconceptions that exist in the medical affairs world
    👉 Why the MSL position is a “Gateway” role
    👉 Potential road blocks for medical affairs
    👉 What she thinks the future looks like for Medical Affairs

    The podcast is available through the links below and anywhere podcasts can be found:

    ️ ️ 〰️ Spotify: https://lnkd.in/dRrSEyn

    ️ ️ 〰️ Apple: https://lnkd.in/egSthAz

    ️ ️ 〰️ Youtube: https://lnkd.in/dhaWVJU

    MSL Talk is a podcast that features helpful information for current Medical Science Liaisons, Medical Affairs leaders, job seekers looking to break into the pharmaceutical industry in their first MSL role as well as anyone interested in hearing good industry conversation and medical affairs discussions.

    #msl #medicalaffairs #medicalscienceliaison #MSLTalk #pharmaceutical

    (0:00) Introduction and guest overview with Carol Heagy (1:04) Carol Heagy's background and shout out to listeners (2:56) Is medical affairs doing it all wrong? (3:24) Challenges and misunderstandings within medical affairs (7:24) The importance of value in medical affairs relationships (9:48) Addressing gaps and the metrics debate in medical affairs (15:35) Misconceptions and the importance of strategic partnerships (23:12) The MSL role in career development and future challenges (30:13) Impact of budget constraints and importance of investment (32:56) Public perception and risks in the MSL role (36:05) Final words on the value of MSLs and closing remarks

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