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    Marketing Against The Grain

    Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot’s SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.

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    $200M Founder Reveals Why Ai Can’t Replace Top 10% Of Marketers (#135) Jul 04, 2023
    Show notes

    There’s a lot of shitty marketers out there.


    Kieran Flanagan is joined by Patrick Campbell (Founder of Profitwell, CSO at Paddle) to discuss why editorial taste is the most important skill in the future for marketers. Learn why taste is CRUCIAL in an AI world, the importance of feedback loops, why you have to have a video strategy to win, and why you need to create unique value for your consumers.


    About Patrick Campbell

    CSO at Paddle.com after recently founding and selling ProfitWell.com. Background in Economics and math. Started career working at NSA and Google before jumping into the tech world. Deep knowledge on subscription/SaaS market benchmarks, retention, inbound media, and pricing.


    Connect with Patrick!

    • Twitter www.twitter.com/patticus
    • LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/patrickccampbell
    • Paddle www.paddle.com
    • Profitwell https://www.profitwell.com/


    Mentions

    • Gary Vaynerchuk https://garyvaynerchuk.com/
    • Patrick’s tweet on the Budlight controversy https://twitter.com/Patticus/status/1669019632307511298


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    AutoGPT 2.0: GPT Author and GPT Engineer (#134) Jun 29, 2023
    Show notes

    How will this affect engineers, writers, and businesses?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the new innovations in Auto-GPT and what it means for the future of media consumption. Learn about the power of an ultra-personalized media experience, what the new era of 1:1 experience means for your business, and why people with better ideas will win.


    Mentions

    • Matt Shumer tweet https://twitter.com/mattshumer_/status/1671231938219130894?s=46&t=qo0rMvYEbESguv0k2b7KGw
    • Lior tweet https://twitter.com/AlphaSignalAI/status/1670488316532379648


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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


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    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Why It’s SO Much Harder To Grow A Startup In 2023… (#133) Jun 27, 2023
    Show notes

    Is ROI total BS now?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into how distribution is getting harder and what you can do about it. Learn about the highest influential channels for B2B buyers, why ROI numbers are wrong and what you should do instead, and why algorithms are going to change marketing faster than we all think.


    Mentions

    • Packy’s newsletter https://www.notboring.co/
    • Steph Smith tweet https://twitter.com/stephsmithio/status/1670620650543923202
    • Poptarts https://www.poptarts.com/en_US/home.html
    • Lucky Charms https://www.luckycharms.com/


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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    The Complete A.I. SEO Guide for Beginners (2023) (#132) Jun 22, 2023
    Show notes

    A.I. in search is going to evolve slower than people think…


    Kipp and Kieran explore how SEO will evolve in a post-AI world. Learn how AI will change product discovery, why marketers need to be like entrepreneurs, why influence is the future of top of funnel marketing, and How you can replicate what a large company does with a tiny team.


    Mentions

    • EP with Guillaume https://link.chtbl.com/NkfZwpLS
    • Chat GPT https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt
    • Google Bard https://bard.google.com/
    • Eric Ravenscraft tweet https://twitter.com/LordRavenscraft/status/1665722553644601346
    • Perplexity.ai https://www.perplexity.ai/


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Scale Your Business to $100M Using These A.I. Growth Tactics with Guillaume Cabane (#131) Jun 17, 2023
    Show notes

    AI-driven personalization needs to be as personal and engaging as a handwritten letter.


    Kieran Flanagan is joined by Guillaume Cabane, Growth Advisor to high-growth SaaS startups. Learn about the predictions in the next cycle of growth (how AI comes into it), the importance of data analytics in the growth marketing process, and why growth marketing requires a competitive edge over time.


    Mentions

    • Article by Guillaume https://hypergrowthpartners.substack.com/p/the-next-generation-of-b2b-growth
    • Gorgias https://www.gorgias.com/
    • Ramp https://ramp.com/
    • Tweet From Guillaume on Zapier https://twitter.com/guillaumecabane/status/192246054832443392


    About Guillaume Cabane

    Guillaume Cabane is a growth advisor to high Growth SaaS Startups, including Ramp, Airbyte, G2, Gorgias, Metadata, Madkudu, and others. Guillaume held VP of Growth roles at Drift, Segment, and other successful startups, where he helped them grow from ~50 to 300. Prior, Guillaume spent 6 years at Apple. Outside of work, Guillaume is a husband of 1, father of 2, cheese-eater of many, and Pastafarian.


    Connect with Guillaume

    • Website: www.hypergrowthpartners.com
    • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cabane/
    • Twitter: https://twitter.com/guillaumecabane


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    How To Predict A.I. Trends And Get Ahead Of Your Competitors (#130) Jun 15, 2023
    Show notes

    Are we moving from an era of out-work to out-think?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the 7 principles to predict the future of AI and how your business can win in the AI-era. Learn why jobs won’t be disrupted, the understanding of complex topics are now commoditized, the rise of natural language, and why information asymmetry no longer exists.


    Mentions

    • ChatGPT https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt
    • Sam Altman Secret Roadmap EP https://link.chtbl.com/dl7-T9bg
    • Vision Pro https://www.apple.com/apple-vision-pro/


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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    How A $25B Company Uses A.I. To 300x Their Marketing Results (#129) Jun 13, 2023
    Show notes

    For the next 6-18 months, there’s a huge opportunity to leverage these tools to drastically change your conversion rate.


    Kipp and Kieran dive into 3 AI-powered experiments that will skyrocket your marketing conversion rate. Learn how you can train an AI agent to automate work, how The Hustle used Midjourney to reduce cost per acquisition on subscribers by 300%, and a debate around if AI tools will increase conversion or be commoditized.


    Mentions

    • The Hustle https://thehustle.co/
    • Midjourney https://midjourney.com/
    • AI Explained https://www.youtube.com/@ai-explained-
    • Open AI API https://openai.com/blog/openai-api
    • Zapier https://zapier.com/


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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Apple’s New VR Headset Is Bad News For Mark Zuckerberg… (#128) Jun 09, 2023
    Show notes

    Apple’s new headset is huge for the AI world. Here’s why.


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the latest and greatest AI news and how it’ll impact your business. Learn how this new product will affect our society and business more than ever, how Apple is changing the AI landscape with the Vision Pro, and how it’s going to change how people consume video and entertainment content.


    Mentions

    • Apple VIsion Pro https://www.apple.com/apple-vision-pro/
    • Tweet by OperaGX https://twitter.com/operagxofficial/status/1665808329463980035
    • Tweet by Aaron Levie https://twitter.com/levie/status/1665807676553691136
    • Article by The Verge https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/5/23750096/apple-vision-pro-headset-persona-facetime
    • Tweet by Jason Fried https://twitter.com/jasonfried/status/1665885183839727616


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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Sam Altman’s Leaked Meeting Notes Reveals OpenAi’s Future (#127) Jun 08, 2023
    Show notes

    OpenAI won’t be building more consumer products after ChatGPT. How will this affect B2B?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into OpenAI’s secret roadmap and what it means for the future of AI. Learn about the power of multi-modality in AI, how personalization will scale new technologies, and if OpenAI will become the next Amazon Web Services.


    Mentions

    • OpenAI https://open.ai/
    • Sam Altman leaked interview https://web.archive.org/web/20230601000258/https://website-nm4keew22-humanloopml.vercel.app/blog/openai-plans
    • ChatGPT https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt
    • Innovator’s Dilemma by Clay Christensen https://www.amazon.com/Innovators-Dilemma-Revolutionary-Change-Business/dp/0062060244


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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    A.I. Design Wars: Why Adobe Is Going To Crush MidJourney (#126) Jun 06, 2023
    Show notes

    With new AI design tools, the cost to produce is getting lower…


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the new AI tools for designers and how this will forever impact the industry. Learn how AI will change the learning curve from years to days, why its more important than ever to operate in the moment, feedback loops are going to become more crucial, and why its an amazing time to be in the creative space.


    Mentions

    • Midjourney https://www.midjourney.com/
    • Adobe Firefly https://www.adobe.com/sensei/generative-ai/firefly.html
    • Canva https://www.canva.com/
    • OpenAI https://open.ai/
    • Bing https://www.bing.com/?/ai
    • EP with Joanna Lord https://link.chtbl.com/YepJYqi9


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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


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