Leadership in Black and White

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Longevity In Ministry While Keeping A Youthful Spirit Pt. 2 Oct 27, 2025

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Part two of a conversation talking with our friend and colleague Jonathan Wilson about all things longevity. He has been in ministry for 40 years and has experienced numerous highs and lows, transitions, and more. This is a rich conversation for any leader looking to be in the game for the long haul! Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Longevity In Ministry While Keeping A Youthful Spirit Pt. 1 Oct 20, 2025

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In this episode, we're talking with our friend and colleague Jonathan Wilson about all things longevity. He has been in ministry for 40 years and has experienced numerous highs and lows, transitions, and more. This is a rich, 2-part conversation for any leader looking to be in the game for the long haul! Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

What I Learned On Sabbatical Part 2 Oct 13, 2025

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Part 2 of a conversation about sabbaticals: Pastor Wayne has returned from his first ever sabbatical! In this episode, we talk about it. What did he do? What did he learn? We also talk in depth about what a sabbatical is and what it is not and how we have started to implement a sabbatical culture in our church. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

What I Learned On Sabbatical Part 1 Oct 06, 2025

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Pastor Wayne has returned from his first ever sabbatical! In this episode, we talk about it. What did he do? What did he learn? We also talk in depth about what a sabbatical is and what it is not and how we have started to implement a sabbatical culture in our church. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Church Tradition, Can Your Calling Change, Understanding the Bible & More Mailbag Questions Sep 29, 2025

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In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answers questions from listeners like: leading team members who don't get along, speaking on hot-button issues, understanding the Bible, and more. Send in a question for next month's mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

The Hardest Part Of Leading Staff Sep 22, 2025

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Leading a team isn't just about vision and execution, it's about people. And people are complex. In this episode, we're unpacking the hardest parts of leading staff. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

What Makes A Great 2nd Chair Leader Sep 15, 2025

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Not everyone is called to lead from the front, but every great leader needs someone strong at their side. In this episode, we're talking about what makes a great 2nd chair leader and how to thrive in a role that's essential but often overlooked. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Increasing Your Leadership Capacity Sep 08, 2025

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Sometimes in leadership, we hit a ceiling - not because of our circumstances, but because of our capacity. The question isn't whether you're leading, it's whether you're still growing. In this episode, we're talking about how to raise your personal leadership capacity, push past plateaus, and keep expanding your influence for the long haul. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Guarding Against Comparison, Changing Your Mind, The Holy Spirit, & More Mailbag Questions Aug 25, 2025

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In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answers questions from listeners like: guarding against comparison, leading people you don't connect with personally, making room for the Holy Spirit without scaring new people in church, and more. Send in a question for next month's mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Staff Loyalty vs Staff Performance: What Matters More? Aug 18, 2025

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Every leader loves a loyal team member—but what happens when loyalty isn’t matched by performance? On the flip side, what do you do with someone who produces results but struggles with alignment or attitude? In this episode, we’re diving into the tension between staff loyalty and staff performance—how to evaluate both, what matters most in different seasons, and how to build a team that’s both committed and effective. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

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