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    Leadership in Black and White

    Leadership in Black and White is a weekly podcast hosted by John Siebeling and Wayne Francis. John and Wayne talk to leaders about how to lead in the gray areas of life and develop you as a Christian leader.

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    Latest Episodes:
    What To Do When You Feel Overwhelmed Sep 21, 2026
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    It's very possible if you've never felt overwhelmed, you've never actually been a leader. All leaders face moments and seasons where they feel overwhelmed - but what do you do when you feel that way? In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss 7 things you should do the next time you feel overwhelmed. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    8 Leadership Assumptions That Usually Aren't True Sep 14, 2026
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    Making assumptions as a leader can be a dangerous game. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss some of the most common assumptions leaders make that often aren't true. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Building Trust, Disagreeing With Your Boss, Receiving Feedback + More Mailbag Questions Sep 07, 2026
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    In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answer questions from listeners about topics including: earning trust, following your intuition, getting a promotion, and more. Send in questions for a future mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Help! I Need To Develop Leaders But I Don’t Have Time Aug 31, 2026
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    One of the greatest pressures for every leader is to continue to develop more leaders. The challenge is managing the development of others while carrying the weight you are responsible for as a leader. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne give some tips on how to develop leaders when your short on time. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Mindsets That Limit Growth Aug 24, 2026
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    The best leaders are always growing and getting better. But if we aren't careful, some limiting mindsets can creep in and begin to stunt our growth. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne talk about 8 detrimental mindsets that will keep you from growing as a leader. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    What Great Leaders Do After A Bad Decision Aug 17, 2026
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    Every leader makes bad decisions - but the difference between a great leader and a mediocre leader is often how they recover from these bad decisions. In this episode, Pastors John & Wayne discuss 5 things leaders should do when they mess up. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Firing An Employee, Boundaries, Christian Values in a Secular Setting & Other Mailbag Questions Jul 13, 2026
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    In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answer questions from listeners about topics including: boundaries, working in a secular setting while holding Christian values, firing someone with grace, and more. Send in questions for a future mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Leading While Fighting Depression Jul 06, 2026
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    If you lead for a long time, there's bound to be some highs and lows - and in some seasons, the lows can get really low. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne talk about leading in those low seasons, specifically leading while fighting depression. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Practical Advice For Single Christian Leaders Jun 29, 2026
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    Often the Christian leadership and ministry world tends to lift up marriage to a place that might make those who are single feel less qualified. But there's no biblical evidence that suggests being single makes you less qualified to be a leader. In fact, the opposite may be true. Some of the greatest leaders in the history of God's kingdom were single. In this episode, we're talking to the single Christian leaders and giving some practical advice about navigating this season. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Are You Listening To The Right Voices? Jun 22, 2026
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    All leaders have people they listen to - for advice, direction, correction. How do you know if you're listening to the right voices or the wrong voices? In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne talk about the voices we should be listening to and the ones that might be better to ignore. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


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