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    Leadership in Black and White

    Leadership in Black and White is a weekly podcast hosted by John Siebeling and Wayne Francis. John and Wayne talk to leaders about how to lead in the gray areas of life and develop you as a Christian leader.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Navigating Midlife, Sensing A Call To Ministry, Fatherhood, & More Mailbag Questions Nov 02, 2026
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    In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answer questions from listeners about topics including: spiritual disciplines for new fathers, how to know when you're called to ministry, stepping into the role of Senior Pastor, leadership development vs discipleship, and more. Send in questions for a future mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Why Does Everything Keep Coming Back To You? Oct 26, 2026
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    Have you ever delegated a task only for it to land right back on your plate? One of the biggest challenges for leaders is to delegate and empower in a way that actually lightens their load going forward, not create more work in the end. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss why this issue might be happening and how to correct it. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Mindsets That Maximize Growth Oct 19, 2026
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    Every leader wants to grow, but there are some mindsets that determine whether or not you will maximize that growth. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss key mindsets that will set every leader up to hit their capacity. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    "That's Not My Job" Is Killing Your Team Oct 12, 2026
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    Every leader has a job to do, but the best teams collaborate and work together across their respective roles to move the mission forward. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne talk about why the mentality of "that's not my job" might be the most dangerous sentence that can infect a team. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Making Difficult Decisions, Discerning God's Will, Planting a Church + More Mailbag Questions Oct 05, 2026
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    In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answer questions from listeners about topics including: discerning God's will, making difficult decisions, church planting, and more. Send in questions for a future mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    What Every Leader Must Know About the Parts of Themselves No One Else Sees Sep 28, 2026
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    Being a leader often means being in the spotlight. And when those lights get bright, there's bound to be a shadow that no one else sees. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss what you must know and do about the parts of yourself no one else sees. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    What To Do When You Feel Overwhelmed Sep 21, 2026
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    It's very possible if you've never felt overwhelmed, you've never actually been a leader. All leaders face moments and seasons where they feel overwhelmed - but what do you do when you feel that way? In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss 7 things you should do the next time you feel overwhelmed. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    8 Leadership Assumptions That Usually Aren't True Sep 14, 2026
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    Making assumptions as a leader can be a dangerous game. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss some of the most common assumptions leaders make that often aren't true. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Building Trust, Disagreeing With Your Boss, Receiving Feedback + More Mailbag Questions Sep 07, 2026
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    In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answer questions from listeners about topics including: earning trust, following your intuition, getting a promotion, and more. Send in questions for a future mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Help! I Need To Develop Leaders But I Don’t Have Time Aug 31, 2026
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    One of the greatest pressures for every leader is to continue to develop more leaders. The challenge is managing the development of others while carrying the weight you are responsible for as a leader. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne give some tips on how to develop leaders when your short on time. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


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