Leadership in Black and White

Latest Episodes:

How To Love Your Job Mar 30, 2026

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We all have a perspective on our work life. Are we working for the weekend? Just trying to earn a paycheck? What if there was a way to actually love your job? In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss how each of us can actually enjoy and be fulfilled at work. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Why Some Leaders Shouldn't Be Leaders Mar 23, 2026

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Leadership is not easy! Is it possible some people shouldn't be leaders? In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss a few of the reasons some leaders may not be in the right seat. They talk about things like habits, motives, personality traits, other things that might get in the way of someone being an effective leader in life. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Raising Kids In Ministry, Communication Mistakes, & Other Mailbag Questions Mar 16, 2026

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In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answer questions from listeners about topics including: communication mistakes, multi-site church, raising kids in ministry, and more. Send in questions for a future mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

5 Essentials of Great Long-Term Leadership Mar 09, 2026

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The goal of every leader is not only to be great, but to be great and effective for a long time! In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss 5 essentials for great, long-term leadership. They explore the significance of attributes like direction, strength, humility, and much more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Interview with NBA Coach Taylor Jenkins (Part 3) Mar 02, 2026

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This is part 3 of a live interview we hosted at our annual Make Room Whiteboard Sessions with NBA coach Taylor Jenkins. Taylor coached the Memphis Grizzlies for 6 seasons and is the winningest coach in franchise history. In the interview, we discuss his faith and commitment to church, his story of becoming an NBA head coach, leading through adversity, dealing with criticism and much more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Interview with NBA Coach Taylor Jenkins (Part 2) Feb 23, 2026

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This is part 2 of a live interview we hosted at our annual Make Room Whiteboard Sessions with NBA coach Taylor Jenkins. Taylor coached the Memphis Grizzlies for 6 seasons and is the winningest coach in franchise history. In the interview, we discuss his faith and commitment to church, his story of becoming an NBA head coach, leading through adversity, dealing with criticism and much more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Interview with NBA Coach Taylor Jenkins (Part 1) Feb 16, 2026

Show notes

This is part 1 of a live interview we hosted at our annual Make Room Whiteboard Sessions with NBA coach Taylor Jenkins. Taylor coached the Memphis Grizzlies for 6 seasons and is the winningest coach in franchise history. In the interview, we discuss his faith and commitment to church, his story of becoming an NBA head coach, leading through adversity, dealing with criticism and much more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Leading Your Family While Leading In Life Feb 09, 2026

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For many leaders, talking about effectiveness in our job or career can be easy. Finding success professionally can, at times, be all we focus on. But a truly great leader knows the most important area of leadership is in their home.

In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne talk about some of the challenges and joys of leading your family as well as you lead in life.

Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Here is the link to the message Pastor Wayne preached that was discussed in this episode: youtube.com/watch?v=mWkeAPXJFVA

Saying No Without Feeling Guilty, Leading When New To Faith, & Other Mailbag Questions Feb 02, 2026

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In this mailbag episode, John and Wayne answer questions from listeners about topics including: staff transitions, leadership mistakes, saying no without feeling guilty, and more. Send in questions for a future mailbag episode by emailing parker@leadershipinblackandwhite.com or by DM'ing us on Instagram. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!

Things I Thought When I Started That I Feel Differently About Now Jan 26, 2026

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Hear Pastor John Siebeling discuss some of the things and philosophies he's changed his mind about in over 30 years of ministry and why his perspective is different now than it was when he began. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!