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    Leadership in Black and White

    Leadership in Black and White is a weekly podcast hosted by John Siebeling and Wayne Francis. John and Wayne talk to leaders about how to lead in the gray areas of life and develop you as a Christian leader.

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    How To Lead When You're The Oldest In The Room Aug 11, 2025
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    There comes a point in leadership when you realize—you’re not the youngest anymore. In fact, sometimes you’re the oldest voice at the table. In this episode, we’re talking about what it looks like to keep showing up, keep leading strong, and keep growing, even when the room around you is getting younger. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    How To Lead When You're The Youngest In The Room Aug 04, 2025
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    Sometimes we're placed in a leadership position and asked to lead people who may be much older and much more experienced than us. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne discuss practical tips for leading older generations effectively. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Revive: What to Do if You're Still Stuck - Summer Series Jul 28, 2025
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    Ever wonder what to do when you feel stuck? Thanks for joining us for our Best of Summer Series to help you rejuvenate your leadership! Today we’re talking about how to revive and increase your leadership capacity in a healthy way through getting practical about how to get unstuck and get some momentum back in your life and leadership.


    Reset: Stress Management 101 - Summer Series Jul 21, 2025
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    Thanks for joining us for our Best of Summer Series to help you rejuvenate your leadership! Today we’re talking about the power of reset and how to lead when you (and your team) is stressed out. We talk about Managing stress, handling pressure, pursuing purpose from a place of peace.


    Rest: How Tired is too Tired? - Summer Series Jul 14, 2025
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    Welcome back to our Best Of Summer Series that aims to help you rejuvenate your leadership! Today we’re talking about rest and asking the question, How tired is too tired? We also help identify unhealthy coping mechanisms for stress, tips for increasing the capacity of the people you lead, leading high capacity people effectively, and more.


    Reflect: The Power of Self-Awareness - Summer Series Jul 07, 2025
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    Welcome to Leadership in Black & White. Thanks for joining us for our Summer Series to help you rejuvenate your leadership!

    We know that the Summer is often a time of rest, reflecting and time away with family. For leaders, this can also be a season that they need a refresh.

    We’re taking the month of July off, but wanted to share a “BEST OF” series to help you rejuvenate your leadership!

    The next few weeks we’ll be highlighting (4) of our past episodes that will walk you through practical ways to reflect on if you’re burnt out. To find rest and know when to take a break, how to reset and know it’s time for a fresh start, and learn how to revive and increase your leadership capacity in the future!

    Today we’re reflecting on one of the greatest secrets to effective leadership...self-awareness. A self-aware leader will be more creative, more confident, more clear and more satisfied. John and Wayne discuss the power of self-awareness and how to cultivate more of it in our leadership and our organizations.


    Parenting Through The Teens Years & Beyond Jun 30, 2025
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    As your kids get older, your parenting must shift. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne, along with their wives Leslie and Classy, talk about how to parent teenagers and adult children. They focus on topics like keeping communication open, how discipline changes, navigating their children making their own decisions, and more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Parenting In The Early Years Jun 23, 2025
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    One of the greatest tests of our leadership is leading our children. In this episode, Pastors John and Wayne are joined by their wives - Leslie and Classy. They talk about parenting young children and the challenges all parents must navigate. They talk about things like handling exhaustion, introducing your kids to the things of God, staying connected as a couple in this season, and more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Building a Healthy Marriage Jun 16, 2025
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    Pastors John and Wayne discuss building healthy marriages with their wives - Leslie and Classy. They talk about things like romance and fun, their spiritual life together, conflict resolution, staying emotionally connected in busy seasons, and more. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


    Ministry & Marriage Jun 09, 2025
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    The marriage relationship is the most important earthly relationship every Christian leader has. In this episode, John and Wayne are joined by their wives - Leslie and Classy - to discuss how to navigate ministry while keeping their marriage strong and vibrant. Follow us on Instagram for more great leadership content: Pastor John (@johnsiebeling), Pastor Wayne (@waynefrancis), Podcast (@leadershipinblackandwhite). Leave a rating and review to give us your feedback and help the show continue to grow!


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