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Men’s “Love” Health May 20, 2021

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Eric Rieger 0:00
Hello gut check project fans and KBMD Health family, I hope that you are having a great day today to host Eric Rieger soon to be joined by my other host, Dr. Kenneth Brown, and Ken Brown KB MD, he's the reason that we get to gut check project. So let's talk a little bit about this episode that's going to follow these announcements. And it's episode number 55. It's continuation of Episode Number 54, where we talked about men's health, specifically how inflammation from various diseases and, and viruses, for instance, can cause erectile dysfunction, and what can be done about it, maybe to recognize it. But what 55 is going to talk about specifically, is the continuation of what we talked about in 5474, we, we kind of delved a little into, you know why inflammation can cause such a problem when two people are trying to be intimate. And now in 55, we're going to talk about what actionable items you can take to hopefully avoid these situations. And if you're experiencing them, maybe you can try this and get over it instead of just always having to turn to pharmaceutical. So anyhow, of course, this is an informative podcast, so we are not your direct healthcare providers, but

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Hello gut check project fans and KBMD health family. It is great

And I'm here with my awesome co host, Dr. Ken Brown, what's going on, man?

Ken Brown 5:04
We got Episode 55, which is part two of the prior episode that we did regarding Men's Health and some erectile dysfunction stuff. And it was really good timing because we got some pretty cool research to go over today, and it's all appropriate. So sit back, learn a little bit about how to protect your penis naturally,

Eric Rieger 5:27
naturally. And so that's what Episode 55 is going to be about a continuation of Episode Number 54. But before we get into that, I think that we, we need to touch on some things that I know that you've been doing with someone who was actually on show.

Ken Brown 5:43
Alright, so we always do a little personal stuff. Yeah. So what's been going on in my life? I got my stem cells. So shout out to Dr. Wade McKenna and his team, which by the way, his staff is awesome. Yeah, they are. They are absolutely amazing. So it's the first time I've ever been sedated. And so I've had two colonoscopies three and das cuppies, two of which I did on myself, which was, which was a gag fest. And I've always been the owl that we put people you put people to sleep right all the time. First time I've ever received propofol. Wow, it was amazing. It was like the coolest thing ever. It's like I just like suddenly two hours labs and Dr. Jerry Lewis shout out to him, it's a way brought him in and they were able to actually float a catheter into my foraminal opening, and I got pictures of this. And injected stem cells after doing a bone marrow harvest on me. I don't remember any of it, no pain. And quite honestly, I'm feeling really good. And it's only the beginning because I'm doing IV infusions now.

Eric Rieger 6:47
So the crazy thing is, is working with you and st talking everyday like we do at work, etc. I saw when you had true deficit, like you really could not extend your right arm, the the tricep really was not responsive. Literally, Brown is standing while we were scoping, you were kind of positioning yourself to work the scope differently than you just normally would, because you'd lost basically faculty in your

Ken Brown 7:14
yard. So what happened is, is that with the disc bulge, it actually compressed the nerve. I've got foraminal which is where the nerve comes out. I've got foraminal stenosis, and I was the swelling that took place from the disc bulge was compressing the nerve, and I didn't have all my usual strength and one of them being these six, seven when I saw Wade the first time Yeah, he was like all here's like, Oh, yeah, yeah, you're not gonna have tricep strength, you're gonna lose your medial pec Rouse, which is exactly right. And he goes, that happened to me years ago, and this is what I did. And Dude, that guy is such a stud. He had a back thing where he did his own bone marrow harvest taught his colleague, because he's the only guy that has done it this much said, this is exactly how you're gonna do it. And did his own bone marrow harvest, made his own stem cells and then had him injected in him? And I didn't want to say that was like 10 years ago or 11 years ago that question, yeah, you know, and he's, he's done well, so if you're somebody that has knee injuries, shoulder, for sure. Knee, low back shoulder, they do this all the time. Neck for me looks like it's going to be a really good success. I'm no pain right now. And I'm gaining function back. It's really it's a it's a humbling experience to go to the gym. Yeah. And be proud that you like can you know, we're usually dumbbells would be? It's this. It's my ego gett...

Revisit 1: Stem Cells with Wade McKenna, DO May 11, 2021

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Dr. McKenna has successfully treated an incredible array of diseases, inside and outside of orthopedics with stem cells. McKenna has been on the front line of stem cells and their clinical application for decades. If you have ever wanted to know the vast array of proven applications for stem cells, do not miss this episode. What stem cells are, how they work, where they are and are not taken from, why cord blood and PRP are NOT the same as stem cells technology used today, the issues of the FDA, his association with RMI (Riordan, McKenna Institute for stem cells with Neil Riordan), treating Mel Gibson and other celebs & lawmakers, the future of research in stem cells, why all SC healthcare providers are not practicing equally (or ethically), why Panama & the Bahamas are used for advanced stem cell therapy and more.

Erectile Dysfunction (ED) Apr 23, 2021

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Hello Gut check project fans and KB MD Health family I hope you're having a great day This is your host Eric Rieger soon to be joined on my awesome co host Dr. Kenneth Brown. If the audio sounds kind of funny on this intro, I'm just having to record it while doing a little traveling and regardless, it will not take away today's episode will not disappoint. This is about erectile dysfunction. What can be done about it? Who wants to deal with it doesn't matter if it's male or female. You don't want to have to be dealing with erectile dysfunction it you know the inappropriate time. So let's not waste any more of your time and get straight to the podcast. But first, our awesome sponsors artron to get your daily poly finos and ultra and to go to love my tummy.com slash KB MD. Love My tummy.com get your poly phenol calls today and of course unrefined bakery incredible food, go to unrefined bakery.com if you are a keto eater, a paleo eater, a gluten free eater or you just like great food that happens to be healthy for you. Go to unrefined bakery.com felt like you had to avoid good tasting cookies simply because you have celiac disease. Well, don't worry, they are certified gluten free and all of their products and get 20% off your entire first order with code. gut check that's unrefined bakery.com use code gut check and save 20% off your entire first order. And last but not least, go to KB Md health.com. If you'd like to check out the podcast and all of our products that we offer, then you can do so just head to KB Md health.com. You can find the home of the podcast all of our previous recordings from gut check project and you know get to know Dr. Brown and myself a little better and shoot us a message. All right. On to episode number 54 the reptile dysfunction Hello gut check project fans and KB MD health family. How are you doing today? I hope it's great. I am here for Episode 54 with my awesome co host Dr. Kenneth brown and today's topic. I think it's actually pretty popular even though when people have it. They don't like it. I was gonna say it's not popular. It's common. Oh yeah. Popular. Yes. No one really? Yeah. No. Today we're talking about erectile dysfunction Ed, and I'm doing this as gastroenterologist because we're seeing that the pandemic may have a strong effect on this but probably not in the way that you're thinking. So today's episode is going to really look at the rise in erectile dysfunction in younger men that are otherwise healthy. That's what we're going to talk about the rise in erectile dysfunction pun intended. Yes, apparently that is funny wording for you. But nice. So erectile dysfunction Episode 54. I don't you told me there's going to be surprised. Yeah. Yeah. So lately what I've been doing when I get Latin when I latch on to a topic, I pretty much don't tell Eric what we're gonna do. So just kind of see him. And so I thought today would be really funny to see how many times he giggles at the word reptile. So if we count it, it could it could turn into a drinking game. I'm not sure. Yeah. Okay. Well, fortunately, all natural, sparkling wine. So that's what we're gonna talk about today, reptile dysfunction. So before we jump into that, I have an ask of anybody who's listening to this. Okay. All right. So this is my ask for the public. I have an amazing team at my office and one of my amazing team members. It gave her two week notice and she's leaving for reasons like all people do, she's getting better opportunities. And I'm proud of her to do this. She helps her deal who is my scheduler work with my patients, and she helps these patients and it's been working really great. So what I'm asking is if anybody listening happens to be super cool, nice, loyal and wants to work with a great team. Or if you know anybody who happens to be super cool, loyal and wants work with a great team. I would like to find somebody to fill this role. There is no medical experience necessary. I'm just looking to hire the personality. So we're just trying to find these cool loyal people go to KB Md health.com kB Md health.com and just hit the Contact Us button. If you know of anybody. Sign up your friends family, we just I really am very proud of my team. I'm very proud of the way that my team takes care of my patients and I'm really going to fill this pretty tough void so I'm reaching out to everybody. Yeah, and if you're watching this show, from far away from Plano does not include commute travel expenses or per diems. So you're probably going to want to be in the area of the clip probably want to be local. Yeah. On your way. And if you're thinking of moving the plane over for Go anyways, I would go ahead and do that. And so, all right, let's do the usual Eric, what's going on with your life? We're about to renovate our house we moved into about a year ago. And actually today after we finish filming, I've got to go to a builders meeting. And so this is a this is a first a true renovation of a home that we that we live in and feeling that anxious but gonna be displaced for a little bit so I'm not super excited about it, but at the same time, we'll be okay. Yeah, I mean, I would just to ease your anxiety if you learn more about homebuilding Oh, then you'll feel more comfortable. So I'm gonna recommend a movie called the money pit with Tom Hanks. That is not the movie. Showing long and Tom, you'll learn a lot about that. Yeah, I'd say never heard of this movie. Doesn't he say home crap home. As far as me, I've got Lucas in Costa Rica. Today's international tournament right now is in the quarters currently playing. Lucas, let's give it to him. And Carla will be playing out of town this weekend for a large tournament as well. So we got the usual thing going on. And I'm getting my stem cells next week. You are you're getting stem cells. In fact, he even came down with a little bit of extra pain yesterday in your neck. I did. Yeah. So it's interesting. I'm really excited to see what this will do. I hurt my neck. surgery was recommended. I've been really trying to avoid surgery. Dr. Wade McKenna was a guest on our show early on. And he's really one of the world's leading stem cells. Definitely. I just happen to be fortunate enough that he's in the DFW Metroplex. So, him and Dr. Jerry Lewis are going to work their magic and I'm going to get a stem cell injection plus a stem cell infusion. And what you and I were talking and yeah, so everyone. So as I do scopes, everyone saw you a little pain, I'll be like, it's I'm still gonna do it. We were talking, you came across some literature, which we will do a whole show on after I do this. All right, about how polyphenols can augment the stem cell stuff, right? Yeah. So there's a handful of them and kind of on a whim, just knowing that we're research based and wait is certainly research based. And we've talked many times with him about how can we complement each other? Because that way, it's very altruistic. And if you have, if you don't know that, just listen to the episode. And you can learn a lot about what he's given up just to give his patients the best service. But knowing that I was really curious on what do polyphenols do, they could augment what it is that Wade McKenna does at his office. And I mean, it's a simple Google search turned up a lot of articles about, well, I don't want to get into it and give it all away. But yeah, it's it's there. Well, it's interesting, because you and I both do intermittent fasting. And we know that intermittent fasting causes a tapa G and fasting long enough turns on stem cells, and we know the polyphenols are fasting the medic molecule, correct. So that at least we know that way. But we're gonna do a whole show on that. And we might even be able to get one of these cool scientists come in and talk about it, you know, like we did with Charlene and Sylvia, which I still get a lot of feedback from patients about that. No ...

What causes Hemorrhoids??? Apr 15, 2021

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Hello Gut Check project fans and KBMD Health family. I hope you're having a great day. It's your host Eric Rieger soon to be joined by my awesome co host, Dr. Kenneth Brown. It's time for Episode Number 53 and this is a really informative episode about what causes Hemorrhoids and believe it or not, would you maybe listening to this podcast on could be making your hemorrhoids worse? That's right The phone anyhow, how is this possible? We'll just check out Episode 53 it's it's very light but really informative and without wasting any more time let's get to our sponsors. And as always, I'll try until formulated by my partner Dr. Ken otter ideal chock full of polyphenols go to love my tummy calm doesn't matter if you're an athlete trying to protect your gut health. If you just want to protect your body from systemic inflammation, trying to daily go to love my tummy calm that's love my tummy, calm slash, KB MD get your polyphenols today, and of course unrefined bakery, great food, regardless of your specialty diet. If you need to be paleo or keto or certainly gluten free, head to unrefined bakery.com use code, gut check and save 20% off your first order. This is just great food, great groceries delivered to your door unrefined bakery.com use code gut check and save 20% off your first order. And last but not least, go to KB Md health.com. And you can peruse the three signature products that Dr. Brown endorses his own CBD as well as Brocelite chock full of severe things and of course auto deal. So go to KB Md health.com. Use code GCP and save 20% off of any order anytime. Alright, let's get to it. Episode Number 53 what is causing my hemorrhoids every day?

Hello Gut Check project fans and KBMD health family How are you doing? I'm Eric Rieger flanked here by my awesome co host, Dr. Kenneth Brown. It's Episode 53 What's up, man? That's

awesome. It's Episode 53. And you rarely refer to me as awesome. That's why I'm gonna use it three times in the same sentence. That's an awesome sentence. Usually it's I'm I'm here with my adequate co host, Dr. Ken Brown.

Yeah, I've never said that. And y'all will never use awesome again. That's probably not even true. So what's what's shakin here for Episode 53.

And this is exciting because Episode 53 it's gonna be all about hemorrhoids, hemorrhoids, hemorrhoids and Roy Roy. Yeah, this all came about because I was treating a patient in their mid 20s. And that person asked if it was unusual for me to be treating a person that was they felt that this was an older person's disease. And I said no, actually, I treat a lot of people in their 20s. And I started thinking about it. And I went, you know, I do treat a lot. And that person said, Why is that? And what I have not paused to think about and he goes you should do a show on it. Yeah, and I went absolutely. And as suggested we're doing a show on hemorrhoids. So I am declaring today officially national hemorrhoid Awareness Day. That's very

ambitious. I actually you're not you're not gonna believe me, but I actually believe that there is a hemorrhoid day. And there's actually a hemorrhoid month the hemorrhoid days October 19. And hemorrhoid month is November and I don't want to take it away from you. Maybe this could be hemorrhoid

30 minutes. Yes, yes. We all know this. Everyone knows that October 19. Everyone knows and it's also national clean your virtual desktop days national Kentucky day. National seafood bisque day 10 National LGBT Center Awareness Day. hemorrhoids gets buried under all that so I'm pulling hemorrhoids out and declaring today national hemorrhoid day.

So we're shining the light on him right. I'm changing. Everyone likes to have their hemorrhoids eliminated. Oh,

I emailed the national hemorrhoid committee and found out there is not one I made myself president. And by doing so. I voted. I was I filled a quorum and I was able to change it this morning. Today's national hemorrhoid day quit arguing with me. So I'm done. And I'll just go ahead and move on to I like the fact that you use the word quorum and they were using the words hemorrhoid because both of those are kind of hard to spell. Once you give me you were telling me you were second runner up in the deck. cater local spelling bee in 1978 was it

yeah much like your impromptu declared hemorrhoid national day I was the only one who showed up and I still came in second.

Alright, so before we jump into hemorrhoids man what's going on with your life? What's going on with the Rieger household?

We are preparing to actually follow your footsteps we are about to renovate the house and sweeping changes about to move everything out today to the house the one that we just moved into so we're going to really just

is upgraded did you do the renovations? Like we did? Did you flood the house first? No choose to renovate it. We

tried to order a freeze and it didn't quite work out. But now in about a week and a half we get started should take about a month. I don't think it's nearly as extensive as what you're doing. But yeah, we'll update some stuff. Mack is back in the throes of offseason basketball. Murray's got her new company up and going gage is back out finishing up his first full year in college. So you know, they're doing well. How

about you? That's awesome. Oh, the brown households doing well. Lots of tennis going on. I think Lucas is playing on that ITF circuit and both Carl and Lucas have tournaments this weekend. So that's, that's cool. love to see everybody healthy out there able to do that kind of thing. You know, suffering through a little bit of a small neck injury that I now i i appreciate when you can get out there and play the sports that you want to play and have fun the way you want to have fun. So

definitely check that what episode was was Wade McKenna,

who early on very early. Yeah, that was back in the original students how we even did this that was back in the spoony studio.

So his episode was specifically on stem cells from his perspective. He's one of the world's leading experts.

You throw a little y'all bro. Yeah, I'll throw a little information out there. Right. So I injured my neck. And which is a really, really common injury and there's typical traditional medicine that people do. And one of our read one of our guests maybe guest number five or six

Wade McKenna,

he's Dr. Wade McKenna happens to be a world expert on stem cell. So I texted him and said, Get an act thing going on. I want to I don't want to play around with this. I went and made an appointment with him. Super cool guy. Super cool staff absolutely phenomenal out at trophy club. He spent a long time with me. And we went through everything and I'm going to do stem cells. We're gonna see what happens. I hear Joe Rogan talk about stem cells all the time. Yeah. And honestly, there's varying differences with how people respond to it. But if you're gonna do it, you go with the person who's been doing it the longest that does the most the person that that Rogan had on to talk about it was who Wade used to open up his Panama clinic with Neil Riordan. Yeah. Neil Riordan.

I'm pretty excited. And we won't spend too much time because this is about hemorrhoids. However, I think it's really cool on that episode, if you go back and check it, you'll learn that lots of stem cell failure is due to people not knowing how to even even the physicians themselves may not be using the best technique for sure there's there's

handling of stem cells doing things but he did on our podcast, he explained how he did research as a residence. He has been doing this autologous bone marrow use with stem cells, which nobody, which people are now just scratching the surface. He's been doing it for a long time and even had the Panama clinic where because the laws were a little bit more relaxed, and he could do...

Natural Gluten Protection: Charlene Van Buiten, PhD Mar 18, 2021

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Hello Gut Check Project fans. Welcome to Gut Check Project and KBMD health family. I'm Eric Rieger here with my awesome co host, Dr. Kenneth Brown. We have another special show.

We just keep we just keep outdoing ourselves with smart people. I'm like I normally I've well I'm becoming very comfortable being the stupidest person on these zoom calls right now this is like this is the new norm, me being the absolute dumbest person on the screen right now.

If you're the well, that's thank you. That's really weird. And and if you're the dumbest, then this is gonna be a really, really intelligent show. So today, Episode Number 52. We have a special guest. This is Dr. Charlene Van Buiten. She is an Assistant Professor of food science and Human Nutrition at Colorado State University. Hello, Charlene. How are you doing today?

I'm doing well. How are you guys

Doing great. We're doing great. I'm not going to introduce the paperwork that we're going to get into. But what I am interested...before we get into some incredible information about your research around celiac disease, and how essentially people can stave off long term inflammation. We always like to get to know a little bit about you. But we did print off your resume. And it looks to me like from all of the stuff that you do in the CV, that you started sometime in the womb getting things done.

So you've been like publishing papers in utero somehow.

Yeah, yeah. It's it's a really rare skill. So.

So where are you? Where do you Where are you from originally?

Originally I'm from Connecticut, grew up there. And then did my bachelor's degree at University of Connecticut in nutrition.

Nice. And how long have you been at Colorado State?

I've been at Colorado State about a year and a half now. So I got about six good months before everything shut down. Still happy to be here. It's a nice place to be locked down in at least.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. The northern part of Colorado. It's it's definitely beautiful up there. So before you read Colorado State, let's see where else you were a postdoctoral fellow, obviously. And then, is there any other stops along the way that really leapt out to you and ended up pushing you into Colorado State to do you know, good nutrition for human?

Um, yeah, I would say probably the most important step in my whole academic journey was at Penn State where I did my PhD in food science. That's kind of where all of the research that we'll talk about today was really conceived. It was just kind of a one off idea that my PhD advisor and I had just one day, you know, oh, what if we looked at interactions between gluten and tannins, and then, you know, I kind of went back to my office, first year PhD student really excited. And all of a sudden, it was like all of these ideas just in terms of the chemical interactions and what this means for nutrition just designed this whole project. And in a really rare case of circumstances, everything I had designed in my first year of my PhD ended up being what I eventually did over the course of the next five years. I don't think anybody is ever that lucky. Yeah, and the project turned into what you all were able to read before inviting me here.

We will definitely dive deep into that. But I'm really curious. So I've, we have the CV here that shows your academic pursuit. I want to know why Charlene, Dr. Charlene, Dr. Charlene decided to do the study of food science and nutrition. Let's just start from there. And then I get the passion once you've latched on to something, but I'm always curious how people find their way like, like, how you how you got there.

Yeah, I think I discovered Food Science a little earlier than the average person. Most people will get into it in college, having followed a path of chemistry or biochemistry, and then realizing they can apply all of these concepts to food. But I actually was in the Future Farmers of America when I was in high school. And I thought that I wanted to be a vet, and then realize that I was not really into like blood or sick animals or anything. And one of my teachers was like, we have this competition. It's called food science. you design a food product, you talk about safety and everything. And I was sure sounds cool. And the first day that I met with that team for this competition, we got a textbook chapter on canning. And I was reading about canning, and I was like, I was really interesting. Like, if you can something it'll last a really long time. Or if it's done incorrectly, it can be so dangerous that it can kill you. Kind of dichotomy there. I was like, food science is crazy. And just from there was like obsessed with it. And, yeah, I was for nutrition, grad school for food science.

This kind of reminds me of the whole mycology thing that we were talking about before. Where like you might find a brave food canner and you might find an old food canner but you won't find them in the same person. I'm going to just dabble in some aggressive food canning and see what happens. They don't walk around anymore. We were we have Paul Paul Stamets was talking about that. And then the other mycologists, we've talked to mycologists that actually discuss that they feel the same way where it's like, look, you can have a mushroom that will save you. But if you prepare it wrong, or eat the wrong one, you're gonna die. If you have food canning, you can have food forever. But if you do it wrong, you can die. Well, that is awesome. So reading your article, or reading your paper, which is a review of your thesis, which tells me that you know this essentially better than anybody in the entire world because you did a thesis on something that I have been searching for for a very, very, very long time. I developed Atrantil to help people with bloating and irritable bowel syndrome. And then we started learning I late started learning about these effects of polyphenols came across your article, your review, which is titled gliadin sequestration as a novel therapy for celiac disease, a prospective application for polyphenols. This is the thing that really I've been looking for for a long time, we've known the benefits of polyphenols, but you're the first person that has been able to explain why I'm gluten sensitive. And once I start, once I started taking Atrantil whenever I would eat gluten, I didn't have issues, and I really couldn't explain it. We've had patients that say, when I, you know, when I take these large polyphenolic compounds that are in Atrantil, I can eat wheat. Why is it I didn't know I couldn't actually say from a molecular reason. And then I came across your paper. And this is absolutely fantastic. It's 32 pages of incredible material. And 185 references my goodness, you put some work into this congratulations on putting together what I think is the most comprehension review of polyphenols in the setting of celiac disease. So once again, if anybody listened to this, know somebody that has celiac disease, or has a family member, or has celiac themselves, this is something that really we need to share as a community. We need to get this out there and your work is really pivotal to explain the science, which is so cool. So let's jump into it. Because it's awesome.

Yeah, I don't even know where to start. Because you you described multiple different mechanisms of action on why polyphenols begin to work. So what drove you to to put these two associations together? Why celiac disease and why polyphenols?

So at the time that we came up with this project, I had recently joined my graduate advisor Ryan Elias at Penn State, I joined his lab, and he was doing a lot of work on wine quality. So as a food chemist, you know, we're looking at oxidation of polyphenols, how that can affect wine astringency, etc. And so I was, you know, showed up to grad school thinking I ...

March is...? Mar 06, 2021

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What is the most preventable cancer? How can you help your body protect yourself from it? March is colon cancer awareness month, and Dr. Ken is loaded once again with data to help you avoid serious disease! Check out the show, this one is very important, really at anytime of year, and if: You are 45 or older You are experiencing a noticeable change in your bowel habits (any age) You think you are seeing blood in your stool (any age) Inexplicable abdominal pain Frequent diarrhea or constipation oddly shaped stools (example ribbon like) Go see a gastroenterologist, and check out episode #51 today Like and share and stay healthy Link to CDC Zombie Preparedness Page https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/zombie/index.htm Link to Dr. Ken’s Colonoscopy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcenBy18nIc

Shivan Sarna “Healing SIBO” Feb 18, 2021

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Eric Rieger 0:00
Hello gut check project fans and KB MD Hill family. How are you doing today? This is your host, Eric Rieger, soon to be joined by my awesome co host, Dr. Kenneth Brown. I'll be feeling great today. This is episode number 50 halfway to 100 What does that mean? I don't know. But I can tell you what we've got an awesome show. Our guest today is the author of healing CBOE. Shavasana. That's right, the same one who founded CBOE SOS community online. shavon, has written an incredible book. And I wish that we had had our hands on just essentially a publication like this to share with our patients years ago, so that they know that they're not alone. shavon has written this book, and you'll hear a lot about it here in the episode, that essentially, if you're new to suffering from SIBO, or you've got a a family member that just got unsolvable gi issues, and they they think it is SIBO, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. This book is for them. It's not overly medical. It's actually written from the patient's perspective. Why? Because she avans that patient, she dealt with struggling to find her solutions for CBOE 40 years. She can tell you how she thinks that she developed it, what stressors caused it, who she talked to how she failed. And then ultimately, what she began to learn by connecting the dots and talking to a bunch of different professionals. And then tell you a little bit about not only how to heal from CBOE and how to maintain that status, and most of all, how to improve your quality of life. Because it's all about healthspan it's not just about lifespan, and health span is critically important if you're gonna live long, live long and healthy. So let's get to it. Our sponsors today are of course all trying to go to love my tummy, calm, love mydomain.com slash KB MD guess what is in Shawn's book. I'll try until That's right, is right. She suffers from CBOE and she helps direct several people who deal with CBOE and she openly recommends artron to what do you know, polyphenols go to love my tiny.com slash KB MD. Get your own polyphenols today are trying to gigantic proanthocyanidin polyphenols in there. That's right. So love my tummy.com forward slash KB MD and of course, unrefined bakery, get fantastic food and if you have a specialty diet, it's keto paleo, gluten free or otherwise, and you want some of the foods that you felt like you had to avoid. Go to unrefined bakery.com use code, gut check and save 20% off of your entire first order. That's unrefined bakery.com Last but not least, get your very own signature products from Dr. Keith Brown. It KB Md health.com. That's KB MD health calm, especially the CBD. And here pretty soon to be a new product rolling out so definitely check out KB Md health.com. See what we have to offer arm our year for 2020 one's going to change quite a bit as we grow the community and kind of have some really awesome revelations in terms of health and discovery. So check us out KB Md health.com. Check out the store, use code GCP and save 20% off of any order any day all the time. Okay, let's get to it. Meet shivan Sarna, She's the author of healing cebo, founder of Siebel SOS. She's a delight. I think you're gonna love episode number 50.

Hello, project fans. Family, I hope you're having a great day. I'm Eric here with my awesome co host, Dr. Kenneth Brown. And again, for our 50th show. We've got a we've got a guest we've known for a long time

Ken Brown 4:10
well, so this is awesome. We've waited for this. And it just so happens that it coincided perfectly. That one of our favorite people, one of the people that is so knowledgeable about something that we are passionate about happens to have a brand new book, and she waited to release it till our 50th episode

Eric Rieger 4:31
that was very nice of her. What's up chevonne

Unknown Speaker 4:34
Hey, anything for you guys. Thanks for having me. And I'm very thrilled and honored 50th episode and my new book that I've been working on for what feels like 50 years.

Eric Rieger 4:45
Heck yeah. What I mean the and you're you're so much bigger than than just that book. I mean, you started CBOE SLS. You mean you're literally the founder. You've been working with Dr. Allison c Becker for quite some time. I'm going to forget something in here. Oh, and she has a cat named Belle.

Ken Brown 4:59
She Tennant Bell, I would actually I would venture to say that shavon because of your passion, because now that I understand your reasoning, why you're passionate about it, because the book is phenomenal. I loved it. It was it's a, it's a really easy read, it's really awesome. I'm gonna recommend it to all of my patients, because not only did you really expose yourself on a very personal level, so that you can show how, and all my patients are not alone. I mean, this is like what you actually explained in the beginning is exactly what my patients say. But then you got into the science and you interviewed so many of the world thought leaders on this, and then ultimately, you ended it with Look, I'm not just going to tell you about this, I'm going to tell you how to eat. And the last half of the book is a really cool recipe book about how to do it in the one thing, which is you're doing something unique. It's how to heal your Siebel in 21 days, and I'm covering your name their Shavasana beautiful Shavasana one of our favorite people and I'm gonna say that you are the voice of Zeebo. There's lots of scientists out there, Allison cvac, or Mark Pim and tell Roussel all these people that you've interviewed, awesome, we know them, well, we love them. They're great people. But you have a very unique history in that you have the ability to write, produce, and do these different things. So we need people like you to be the voice of this. And that's what you really are becoming with this book. Congratulations on the book.

Unknown Speaker 6:34
Thank you so much. It's been a dream of mine, my best friend told me while I was going through all of these treatments and discoveries, you know, you really need to write a book and I would like bring my notebooks into the doctor's offices and appointments and they'd look at me go, you know, you really need to write a book. I really got to know. And I, I, you know, writing a book is not easy. This little baby like looks like a one and done. Oh my gosh, it was very laboris but I am a TV person. So I did the CBOE SLS summit one, the CBOE SLS summit to the IBS and CBOE SLS summit, the microbiome rescue summit. And now it'll be my mother had lymphoma back in the 90s. No one knew anything about anything it felt like and I'm just working on the lymphatic rescue summit. So I really took everything from those digestive summits and put it into this book. And I have interviewed hundreds of people about the topic, including you. And I wanted to give everybody a book that was inexpensive, because 20 bucks for all this is crazy good. And sometimes Amazon has already put it on sale for 18 bucks, which is also crazy, probably won't stay that way for long. But I'm thrilled. And I, you know, I wanted to get everybody a book that I wish I had had, because I was doing like Dr. Google and you know, staring at the incredible website, cebo info.com, which is Dr. C. Becker's website. But I needed everybody to know that they weren't alone. And if I could share a couple of stories and some recipes, and how to get through the day more easily plus the science. Then as I was talking to God and the universe and the angels begging for help. I was like, Look, if I have insurance, I have a brain. I have a great computer, I have a little bit of time on my hands, because for the first time my husband was studying become a CPA. And so I actually had some free time while he was studying. And I was like, Look, if I'm havi...

Silvia Molino - Polyphenol Expert Feb 11, 2021

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Bienvenidos Ah, this is where no, sorry, I screwed it up. So I got really nervous. It's like the lights came on. Okay.

Remember, we're actually saying that Yeah.

Okay, there we go. Three. You ready? Oh, yeah. Okay. Three, two on bmnh Oh, god check project. Your soy, Eric. Esta Dr. Brown,

Dr. Brown Como estas Morgana, grassy asmita story super emotional o por el podcastone tenemos en invitado fantastical. gephi ancestors that podcast story.

Sylvia done this style of video.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, guys, I can't speak English. Oh, okay.

Oh, thank goodness cuz I'm pretty sure that's all the Spanish Eric knew. And banyo I got that down too. So why don't we Why don't we start over and just take it from the top in English. Now that we know that our wonderful guest who lives in Spain to learn all about That's right. actually speaks English. Okay, probably should have figured that out. Before we started the podcast

guys. I'm gonna start all over. So welcome gut check project fans and KB MD health family. It's now episode number 49. I'm Eric. This is my awesome co host Dr. Kenneth Brown. And today we've got an incredible special guest that I tried. I you know, I can't I tried Spanish.

I tried. You did so Eric. Eric dusted off his eighth grade Spanish. He was trying to impress Silvia you know, I mean, we're both a little nervous because what what we have on the podcast today is super special. Everybody has heroes in their life and Silvia is my hero because she is a poly phenol expert. She's getting her doctorate in specifically the polyphenols that we use on Tron teal. So she knows more about it than anybody I've ever met. And I'm so excited and nervous that we actually tried to speak in her native her native language.

I'm just embarrassed that but there'll be a welcome to the show. Welcome to go check project. Thank you so much for making

videos.

She said y'all she's trying to

learn some Texas now first of all, Silvia get us up to speed you're living in Granada Spain. What is going on there? You You WhatsApp to me You guys got a little earthquake situation right?

Yeah, we were we were we were that weights. But now where? We stay better here. Fortunately, visitation is is better.

You said it so calm. When you just WhatsApp you're like, oh, things are good. Here. We're dealing with a lot of earthquakes. Thanks for asking. Tough in Spain.

We used to.

So this is this is super cool. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. I have followed your work. Some of the work that you have done as the lead author I have used we've discussed it on multiple podcasts. If you've seen Episode 47 Episode 46 multiple other episodes, we always refer to the large stable polyphenols and how they get broken down by the microbiome and the purse that articles that always reference. This is the author of those articles. Sylvia Molino, who is I almost called you doctor but you're almost a doctor, right? almost almost.

Nice. Nice. Hey, so

why don't you tell us a bit about your background how you ended up there? What's going on? Everything Everything about Silvia Molino.

Okay, so I am a biologist. I got my master's degree in Italy. But I the my train sheep here in Granada, where we started working with embitter. And they're just in implementation. And I fell in love with this argument. And then in one Congress, I met Michaela Battaglia is the CEO of silica team, that Britain is a b2b company that produced what the word leader is producing tannins that are polyphenols, sure, and he got interested in my work. So we started collaborating and and then we had the idea to create a new project to investigate the application of tannins in humans. And so I just started with my PhD working on that, and I'm still working on that and we have continuing on that

Yeah, that's awesome. So when you when you first hopped into it, were polyphenol something that drew your interest in their immediate applications for for health or is it something that just kind of just happened over time? What was it that drew you into wanting to study about polyphenols?

Well, um, I ever I always have been interesting in polyphenols about more in general about nutraceutical okay, because I believe that we could treat some diseases or some dysfunction with natural product, because actually, we are using a lot of synthetic treatment, but they were discovered from studying nature. So sometimes I think that we could go back to the power of nature. And in this case, 10 is

absolutely Well honestly, the timing really couldn't be better and where we find ourselves not just in the United States, but obviously all the way around the world for us to find and escape from synthetic solutions to what otherwise are just natural problems. And if probably we were consuming more polythene hauls as a you know, for the entire earth we would be in better shape. Yeah.

Repeat that.

Eric was just saying that you're exactly right. We have always we have a we have felt that the consumption of polyphenols is what what we're lacking in the western American diet. If we had more polyphenols we would have better health.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah,

I was just gonna say you use the word nutraceutical, which is, which is interesting because we've, we've coined that term, but what does nutraceutical mean to you as a scientist?

Wow, it's a hard question for me and you're just starting over is a solution that could be assumed for from a person by person. Like it will be a part of the natural diet like it will be a tude. Okay, so something more natural.

Okay, so a functional food, nutraceutical interesting, a molecule that can have health benefits, but it's found in nature?

Yeah, exactly.

And so you through your research, you found that these beautiful molecules called polyphenols have hold all this potential to be bioactive and possibly a nutraceutical for humans. So, for anybody that has not heard this, can you explain in your words what a poly phenol is?

Well, polyphenols are molecules if we can find in a network, obviously, the name derives from the chemical structure and they are well known for the multiple by activities beneficial by activities. First of all, they are antioxidant, they are what non antioxidant. And this is a super important characteristic of them because they help us to counteract the action of the oxidative stress. The oxidative stress is a normal events that we have that happens in our bodies, and can lead to a lot a lot of diseases and a lot of problems.

So leading to like inflammation, is that kind of what you're talking about there with long exposures of oxidative stress?

Well, can you repeat, please?

Sure. Are you saying that oxidative stress leads to inflammation, like more inflammation around tissues? Is that what you're saying?

Yeah, for sure. Well, normally we our normal metabolism, I produce free radicals. Okay. And this normal normal process of power rally, but what happens if we produce a high amount of, of these free radicals, and it's normal to breathe in sometimes to produce a lot of free radicals. And the causes could be external factors, such as stress or bad diet, for example, we have some endogenous mechanisms of our body to counteract these production of oxidative stress done by the free radicals, but these are not sufficient and are not not the most of the times. So we need to intake somehow. From from external hub. And in this case, we have to take antioxidant. And antioxidant we can find, for example, polyphenols, other one on the oxygen, for example, our could be vitamin C, Vitamin E. But from our study, for example, we could discover that time knees, among other 43 years has exert a higher activity than this well known molecules, such as vitamin C. So we cou...

Angry Brains and Conflict Feb 03, 2021

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0:01
Hey, gut check project fans and KB MD health family. This is Eric, I'm here with my awesome co host, Dr. Kenneth Brown. And this is Episode 48. I don't have a clue what we're gonna talk about.

0:12
Well, I think that Okay, so if you did not see Episode 47, we put a lot of work into that one. Yeah, we've gotten a ton of great feedback on that. And it's just the beginning, because because of that episode, we've been contacted by a lot of other scientists, a lot of people. And we're gonna be having a really special PhD on to describe her research soon. And it's, you know, thankfully, it's pretty cool. Yeah, it's

0:34
really, really cool. We actually got a lot of feedback not only in the traditional sense, thank you all for who've been emailing in and messaging. But the two patients who came through and watched it right before we scoped them, I was impressed to how many of them tried to do what you did to me and made me list everything out. And so that was that was pretty interesting. So

0:53
just a recap of 47 it was important because we've uncovered a lot of important research showing how the polyphenols like polyphenols in atrantil can actually help your innate immune system. And it's, it's the tip of the iceberg because I've been contacted by out both allergist epidemiologists, some PhDs going wow, that is exactly what my research is in. I'd like to talk about it more.

1:16
What about just this morning, we had that discussion with somebody over in the UK who is specifically utilizing guess what polyphenols for athletes and elite athlete training. Never met the guy before has an incredible program. What do you think of that? Oh, that's

1:31
great. It's actually Aiden Goggins. And he he wrote the cert diet, which is the I believe it's the diet that Adele lost all her weight on and it's all about the benefit of polyphenols turning on these sirtuin pathways. He's he agreed to come on the show also great guy super smart. That was awesome hanging out with him this morning. So what's going on with you? Let's let's get let's make this more casual this time. The last couple of podcasts have been so intense with the immune system and stuff. Let's change it up a little.

1:56
Yeah, man. I chatted with gage this morning. He scores out of tech he's loving School, which is great. And you know he's he's enjoying his time as a freshman. His most college kids who are freshmen should be doing Mack is in midseason basketball. He loves it. He just He scored his 106 point where this basketball team is last week. He's super pumped about that. Okay,

2:20
let's let's clarify that. So he scored his 106 documented point or he scored the 106 I

2:25
scored the 106 which is the high watermark for his current code. That's awesome. That's awesome joints. He joins his brother who was the first person to push a coach over 100

2:34
Yes, that's awesome. So the reader brothers doing proper to the basketball team.

2:39
Their dad's terrible. I know.

I got a shiner got a little shiner. Here you go look at the camera here. Yeah, look at the mirror image of me. Yeah, we're doing little remodeling on the house. And unfortunately, the middle of the night I tripped over a box and face planet. So as I was telling my patient I walked in and we're gonna put him to sleep. And he's like, Whoa, Doc, he's like, do a get a little tussle. And I'm like, no. And he's like, well, it'll probably only affect your modeling career for a bit. And I'm like, Well, I'm actually a hand model. So that's why I protected myself with my face. Yeah, why don't you show that finger

and see how good of a handball you are?

3:16
Well, I played I play the before picture and all hand model. A bunch of Orthopedic Surgeons jabbed me they're like, hey, yeah, can I use that in an ad?

3:26
I specialize in ring finger. Yeah. We're gonna straighten it out.

3:32
Oh, guess what I signed up for what? I signed up for the Wim Hof breathing. Wow, awesome. I'm doing the Wim Hof if you don't know who Wim Hof is, he's this crazy guy that has this incredible breathing course which we're gonna talk about that I read. I read James nesters book called breath, the site the lost science, and everything is all over there. Oh, dude, it's because we're all just like, Whoa, you can change your life by breathing. And that's what the Wim Hof Method is just breathe. And it's so I've been doing this every morning for we're going on two weeks now. And the problem is it also involves cold exposure. So every morning instead of waking up and doing my Yani coffee and warm hot shower, I'm breathing a ton and then jumping into a cold shower so we'll see

4:16
feedback on it. Okay, well, just real quick, since I don't know where we're going with today's show. I'm just gonna go ahead and ask is this one of those things from Wim Hof where he is having you breathe in at a certain interval breathe out a certain interval so that you can achieve something and then it can you can you shed a little light on them?

4:32
Yeah. So the Wim Hof Method in a nutshell is a cyclical breathing where you, you over inflate and then you exhale to atmospheric pressure. So you go above atmospheric pressure to atmospheric pressure. You do this in a cyclical way, almost like a wave and you train yourself to breathe in a cyclical way. And what that does is that increases your oxygen saturation of the cells decreases your co2, and I know where you're going because last time we I started talking about putting physiology, we ended up doing a whole podcast on that. Check out COVID episode three or four. But what that does is that actually raises your pH because the co2 retention will increase the pH. Okay. So in this book, in breath, I got really into that because we realized that in our stress society and the more stressed you are, we tend to shallow rapid breathe, which actually is the improper way to do it. So when you want to relax, you breathe six seconds in six seconds out, that should be the proper tempo. This is a different method. This is to supercharge your parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous system interesting. And then you do 30. In this case, you can do like 30 cycles of this. really deep breathing and then it on number 30, you exhale, and you hold your breath. So you and you time it and it's really funny because I'm following him on the course. And he's this very, he's been on Rhonda Patrick show and always been a me Joe Rogan. And everybody and so he's so funny, because he's the same all the time. I think he's always Wim Yeah. And so he's been on Ben Greenfield and stuff. And so he's, you know, you feel like this bond, because I'm like, holding my breath. And he's like, it's okay. You're good. You can do longer. You're,

6:12
I mean, the guy is a physical walking experiment. He's done everything, especially when it comes down to this controlled breathing situation.

6:19
Yeah, he holds like 20 world records and stuff. Yeah, but but it's all but it's all based off science. It's not like and that's what he tries to tell everybody. He's like, anybody can do this. So that's what I'm, that's what I'm going to experiment. We'll

6:28
see if I can interesting. I'm curious how how they're explaining to lay people because that's probably what this is written for. From lay people all the way down to the science. So maybe that would be a topic that we will get into after you experiment with it a

6:40
little bit. Yeah,

6:40
I'm really interested.

6:41
But we want to keep this episode light. Okay, this is just gonna be a fun, easy episode. Or we're just gonna relax. Gosh, I was sitting ...

The Actual HOW to Boost Your Immune System Jan 12, 2021

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0:00
Hello, everyone, welcome to the gut check project gut check project fans, KBMD health family, how are you doing? It is now time for episode number 47. I'm here with my awesome co host, Dr. Kenneth Brown.

0:13
What's up Episode 47. This is part two of our immunology. So this is I'm pretty excited. Because just this morning, you said you better check out Joe Rogan this morning because Dr. Mark Gordon is on there. And this dude was saying everything that we've been talking about, but I feel like we even have it to the next level. So we're talking to scientists that understand the whole concept of functional nutrition, functional things that I felt like he was saying, everything that we've been talking about now for quite a while like yours

0:45
is no doubt the coolest thing is another thing that we'll we'll get to it in a moment. But it's it's all about eating right. having great nutrition, he used an incredible example of India, where Let's face it, a lot of people don't have the economic means that we do here in the United States. However, they're facing COVID, they have the same health issues that we do here, roughly, and they've got a large population. So when comparing apples to apples are talking about nutrition, and there's some specific things in that nutrition when you say,

1:17
oh, and we're gonna get into that, in fact, I got an article here that we're gonna go over and I'll spoiler alert for you. But it's exactly what what what we're talking about right now. So we got some feedback. I apologize to everyone the last podcast we did, we were trying some unique things. And we didn't have such good sound quality, but that's what you get when your sponsor is lousy Lavalier comm so we had LousyLavalier.com Yeah, so we dropped them. And so I'm happy to announce that we got a new sponsor, which we did get a new sponsor, and this is awesome. It's actually a hot dog company. They're called diarrhea dogs. And their slogan is, we're not sure what's in the dog, but we know it will give you diarrhea. Yeah. who's who's betting our sponsor?

2:05
The cool thing is, is it's a it's a host specific sponsor, so I'm looking for you to tell me how I

2:11
know seriously, who in the company is? Is it Mike? is Mike getting sponsors for us, Mike, because I've already cashed a check. We got to keep talking about diarrhea dogs.

2:18
It's, I can't this can't keep happening.

2:20
We had lousy Lavalier as a sponsor, then we followed up with diarrhea dogs, yeah. Oh, my goodness,

2:25
this is not working out.

2:26
We're gonna have a little talk with Barry Weiss. How you been man?

2:30
doing well, so we're into a brand new year now. What brief amount of time had a great vacation with the family? And it really just in time, right. I mean, there's, everything's kind of limited on what you can do. Yeah. But we it was, it's good to always have the older son come home spend time with him. We started building some furniture over the last couple weeks. So it's a great bonding experience with me and the boys. And of course, Maria is telling us what she wants us to look like. So trying hard to make it. Yeah. But you know, it's it's been a lot of fun. Mac is in the swing of basketball. And so life, normal life is starting to take on a new meaning. But it's it's good.

3:09
Yeah. What about you? Well, for us, um, you know, the, the whole COVID lockdown, you start looking at your house a little bit. And so loida kind of convinced me that maybe we should start considering making a few little changes. And it started out with the master bath. And she's like, you know, shoot, can I do a few other things? I'm like, Yeah, absolutely. So I'm really busy with work and come back. And then you know, next thing I know, the builders or the contractors there and he's like, Look, okay, so this is what we've designed. Here's the plans, bla bla bla bla bla, and, you know, he's like, we're gonna buy the neighbor's house and we're gonna, you know, tear, tear this one down. But I mean, it was just I'm like, Whoa, we're doing a lot of work here. So I'm already in it. We're gonna be in this house for a long time. It's a great area. You notice everybody's moving to Texas. They definitely dragons bringing everybody down here. So following him. So at

3:54
any point, did you have a spreadsheet that said, redo house or simply burn house?

4:01
Well, then it's like one of those shows. Like once you see the plans, you're like, Oh, yeah, I want it to look like that. But you know, and oh, guess what I did today was that guess what I did? 30 seconds ago. Oh,

4:12
I know what you did? Yeah, you got into crypto.

4:15
So as we're setting up to do this show, we started having a conversation about cryptocurrency and Bitcoin and people have been telling me to get involved. So in a spur of the moment, while Eric was setting up the mics and everything I bought some Bitcoin Yeah, go Bitcoin.

4:29
Yeah. And and we need to probably have a disclaimer that we know nothing about cryptocurrency. Oh, absolutely. Nothing nice. But yeah, it was really kind of cool to watch you do it.

4:36
Yeah. So we've covered our sponsors. A little word with the person that's choosing them in the future. And so let's jump into the immune episode part two. So even if the audio is a little bit off on that last one, I encourage everyone to look at our last podcast, because I do a detailed explanation in or at least detailed for a simple country butt Dr. That's living in Texas for the innate immune system, and I actually rewatched it when we were getting the comments great information, audio bad. And at the very end, I go, so that covers the adaptive immune system. I'm like, No, I should have no it was the innate, we did not cover the adaptive yet. There's a reason why that's coming, because then we're going to lead into the vaccinations for COVID and things. Right. So that was the innate. But here's what's really cool. We're gonna talk about what Dr. Mark Gordon was talking about on Joe show. And it's super cool. Like we've been on top of this the whole time. It's been it's it's actually huge, huge news for everyone.

5:36
I think a lot of people can learn a lot about what they can do just to protect themselves. And let's small preface, you don't have to just apply the knowledge that you'll pick up today to COVID. COVID actually can begin to fit into other viruses with this talk that we're going to have today.

5:52
Yes. And specifically, this is not a COVID talk. We're not saying that at all. What we're saying is we're gonna talk about how to optimize a well running immune system. Yeah. And so when I talked to some of my colleagues and people discuss different things, Angie, and I were talking that she's like, have you looked at our Mendeley account? So Mendeley is where we put all our articles, and I just did a quick look. We have over 1000 articles regarding immune health and how to optimize it through nutrition and lifestyle. Yeah. So even that is science backed. Everything we're talking about here is completely science backed. In fact, one of the things I wanted to discuss because I think it's really cool is this article that just came out in 2020. It's called the antiviral functional foods and exercise, lifestyle prevention of Coronavirus. That's a very boring title. And those are the kinds of things that I read. And it was published in the Journal of nutrients. What's fascinating about this is that they discuss the things that other people are now just finally starting to talk about. Yeah, so I want to review this article really quick. Then I want to get back to the whiteboard. And hopefully sound ...

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