Crime and Roses

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Ep. 174 True Crime: The Murder of Jennifer Cave Apr 14, 2022

Show notes

We are still on a Bachelor break, after covering Season 26 of The Bachelor. But, we are still connecting true crime stories to the whole of Bachelor Nation. Clayton’s season was literally a copy / paste season.

Bachelor Nation made several connections to Clayton and Colton Underwood’s season. In addition, their names are so similar that Danielle, along with most of Bachelor Nation, continued to confuse them. So this week Danielle is telling you about a murderer named Colton.

Jennifer Cave was a beautiful young woman, trying to figure out living on her own and unfortunately, struggling with addiction. Her addiction led her to meeting Colton, who on the outside looking in, seemed to be a “good guy”, but instead, had a very dark side. Through the twists and turns in Jennifer’s life, she kept coming into contact with Colton, and one night would be the last…

(Story Starts at:15:59 )

CONTENT WARNING: Substance Abuse

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Ep. 173 True Crime: The Murder of Michelle Moore-Bosko and the Story of the Norfolk Four Apr 07, 2022

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We are in the off-season, and all bets are off. However, we are still connecting each story to someone or something within the Bachelor Franchise. This week Megan tells the story based in Norfolk, Virginia, and several recent contestants call this larger area home, including Susie Evan, Marlena Wesh, Claire Heilig, Victoria Fuller, and Ryan Claytor.

Megan tells the story of the murder of Michelle Moore-Bosko, who married her high school sweetheart, William. Michelle and William were still newlyweds when Michelle was murdered. The investigation and multiple trials that happen are a total and complete miscarriage of justice for everyone involved.

A total of eight men are wrongfully accused of this horrible crime while the real killer remains at large. Four of the men involved Danial Williams, Joseph Dick Jr., Eric Wilson, and Derek Tice are wrongfully convicted on shoddy police work and coerced confessions.

(Story Starts at: 0:44)

CONTENT WARNING: Sexual Assault, brief mention of a child sexual assault

Links Discussed in the Episode:

PBS Frontline Documentary on the Norfolk Four

Sharon Says So: Episode 102: Why We Deserve a Fair Criminal Justice System with Jason Flom

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Always feel free to email us at: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us true crime story suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.

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Interview with Garin Flowers (Bachelorette Season 16) March 2022 Bachelor Patreon Exclusive Mar 26, 2022

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This is a sneak peek of our January 2022 Bachelor Patreon Exclusive content.

You can hear the full episode here. Starting at the $3 level of our Patreon membership!

We have been so incredibly excited about this interview, y’all. Garin is just such an interesting guy, with such a great personality. We get to talk to him about his unique perspective on the show, and his post-show life - including his parallel parking parody fame. Garin is also an Emmy nominated journalist and has covered some very important true crime cases, including Trayvon Martin, the Pulse nightclub shooting, and many more. So of course, we talk to him about the true-crime side of his career.

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Ep. 172 True Crime: The Murders of Ranbing “Jennifer” Ji and Kevin Peng Mar 24, 2022

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We made it y'all! We finished season 26 of The Bachelor. Thank you for sticking with us. On the finale and After the Final Rose (ATFR) we saw the conclusion of the segment that has been teased all season long when we saw Clayon tell Gabby and Rachel that he was in love and was intimate with both of them. In addition, we see Clayton basically living a double life, telling Gabby and Rachel he was in love with them and telling Susie he loved her the most.

This week Danielle tells you of a traditional love triangle, with a twist. Jennifer Ji came to live the American Dream, with her rich and successful boyfriend. The only problem was, her boyfriend also had a wife and kids in the next town over. Every second of this high-profile case was covered by the media in the US and China. The entire story ends in a way that no one could see coming.

(Story Starts at: 8:16)

CONTENT WARNING: Child murder

You can always connect with us at: linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses. There you can see links to our podcast and social media platforms.

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Always feel free to email us at: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us true crime story suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.

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Ep. 171 True Crime: The Murders of Janice Pietropola and Lynn Seethaler Mar 18, 2022

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Last week was… a lot. We had Women Tell All and the Fantasy Suites. Because of the way things ended with the Fantasy Suites episode, Megan decided to base a story on Susie, who is from Virginia Beach, Virginia. There were several options for stories to choose from, and we put it to a vote on our Instagram stories, and this is the option chosen by YOU!

Janice Pietropola and Lynn Seethaler were two young women who just wanted a girl's week at the beach. When they didn’t return home to Pittsburgh, their families started to get worried, and when a hotel employee walked into their room, they were met with an absolutely horrifying scene. This story occurs in 1973 but has updates as recent as December 2021. (Story Starts at: 6:03)

CONTENT WARNING: Sexual assault

You can always connect with us at: linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses. There you can see links to our podcast and social media platforms.

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Always feel free to email us at: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us true crime story suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.

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Ep. 170 The Bachelor: Love Cannot be Measured (Season 26, Finale and After the Final Rose Part 2) Mar 17, 2022

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We are bringing back the tarot readings for every episode of Clayton’s season of The Bachelor. Megan asked the Final Rose Tarot cards what we can expect from this week of The Bachelor. Megan pulled the Knight of Flutes, AKA the Hopeless Romantic card. This card is all about emotions and romance… and this episode definitely has emotions.

In the second part of the finale (Tuesday), we see Clayton’s desperate attempt to win Susie back. We see Clayton be read to filth by Gabby and we see Rachel literally broken when Clayton breaks up with both of them TOGETHER. We also see the After the Final Rose, with Clayton in the hot seat and find out where his journey for love ends… and apparently, that’s with Susie, AKA Hannah Beige, who he loves the most.

We have to say it now, thank you SO MUCH for sticking with us this season and the last 2 years that we have been doing this podcast. We really love you and we really mean it!

We have saved our Gabby BIPOC highlight for this moment! Gabby is strong, sexy, smart, and very funny. We are very excited for a Latinx lead in the near future!

You can always connect with us at: linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses. There you can see links to our podcast and social media platforms.

You can support the podcast by becoming a Patreon Member at: www.patreon.com/CrimeAndRoses. We have several levels of membership, and we truly love you, mean it.

Always feel free to email us at: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us true crime story suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.

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Ep. 169 The Bachelor: Clayton’s Collateral Damage (Season 26, Finale and After the Final Rose Part 1) Mar 17, 2022

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We are bringing back the tarot readings for every episode of Clayton’s season of The Bachelor. Megan asked the Final Rose Tarot cards what we can expect from this week of The Bachelor. Megan pulled the Five Roses, AKA the Competition card. This card is all about tensions being high, but understanding how to remain above it all. It’s clear that tensions are high. It’s also very clear that Clayton did not take the card’s advice about remaining above it all.

There is so much to discuss that we had to break this into two parts. In this episode, we break down night one (Monday) of the finale. We see the “rose ceremony from hell” and the scene teased all season, where Clayton tells Gabby and Rachel that he was in love and slept with both of them. We also see the aftermath, both Gabby and Rachel stay, which includes meeting Clayton’s family the very next day. We then see the start of Clayton, being on some fuck shit, and THEN deciding to chase Susie, AKA Hannah Beige. To say we are upset by this point is an understatement.

You can always connect with us at: linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses. There you can see links to our podcast and social media platforms.

You can support the podcast by becoming a Patreon Member at: www.patreon.com/CrimeAndRoses. We have several levels of membership, and we truly love you, mean it.

Always feel free to email us at: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us true crime story suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.

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Ep. 168 True Crime: The Osage Indigenous Nation Murders Mar 11, 2022

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Last week was hometowns! We saw Serene thriving in her hometown, Oklahoma City (with her brother Oklahoma Obama), so Danielle is covering an Oklahoma-based case.

Danielle covers the Osage Indigenous Murder, or "Reign of Terror" that took place in the 1920s. Due to an oil boom in Osage County, Oklahoma, Osage Indigenous people became the richest people in the world and at the same time, were the target for murder by greedy jealous white men in the area. This is guaranteed to be American history you've never heard of. (Story Starts at:1:06).

You can always connect with us at: linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses. There you can see links to our podcast and social media platforms.

You can support the podcast by becoming a Patreon Member at: www.patreon.com/CrimeAndRoses. We have several levels of membership, and we truly love you, mean it.

Always feel free to email us at: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us true crime story suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.

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Ep. 167 The Bachelor: Fantasy-Not-So-Sweets (Season 26, Fantasy Suites) Mar 10, 2022

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We are bringing back the tarot readings for every episode of Clayton’s season of The Bachelor. Megan asked the Final Rose Tarot cards what we can expect from this week of The Bachelor. Megan pulled the Queen of Roses, AKA the Beauty Queen card. This card is all asserting your confidence. We’re thinking the card is all about Susie, the pageant queen, and Disney Princess, who definitely asserts a message through this episode.

We don’t even know where to start... We couldn’t wait to talk about everything that went down (or didn’t go down), in the Fantasy Suites. We recap Rachel and Gabby’s dates, as they apologize in advance with sex hair. Then we get to the juicy stuff and chat, in-depth, about Susie. Chile, this is all such a mess.

This week we are highlighting Teddi! She was very open and vulnerable about her experience on the show and upbringing during the hot seat. While we wish she would have directly addressed Clayton’s comment about her not looking like a virgin, we did like the sex-positive things she had to say. Make sure to follow her here!

You can always connect with us at: linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses. There you can see links to our podcast and social media platforms.

You can support the podcast by becoming a Patreon Member at: www.patreon.com/CrimeAndRoses. We have several levels of membership, and we truly love you, mean it.

Always feel free to email us at: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us true crime story suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.

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Ep. 166: The Bachelor: Chaos Reigns (Season 26, Women Tell All) Mar 08, 2022

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We are bringing back the tarot readings for every episode of Clayton’s season of The Bachelor. Megan asked the Final Rose Tarot cards what we can expect from this week of The Bachelor. Megan pulled the 3 of Roses, AKA the Next Destination card. This card is all about progression and looking ahead on a global scale. We’re thinking the card is about Mexico and certain Bachelor in Paradise auditions.

Honestly, this was a mess. It was messy and just a mess. It was truly chaos. We see lots of recaps of the season, which feels like we saw it yesterday. Shanae gets WAY TOO MUCH screen time and doesn’t address any of the terrible things she said about ADHD. We hear the women screech at each other. We see some pretty cold hot seats, but we do get some IG DM tea from two ladies. Overall, we are just glad that the end is finally near. We are excited to see some of these women on BIP, Megan is standing firm in her boycott if You-Know-Who is on the beach.

You can always connect with us at: linktr.ee/CrimeandRoses. There you can see links to our podcast and social media platforms.

You can support the podcast by becoming a Patreon Member at: www.patreon.com/CrimeAndRoses. We have several levels of membership, and we truly love you, mean it.

Always feel free to email us at: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us true crime story suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.

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