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053: Everything You Need to Know About ADUs with Derek Sherrell Jul 19, 2023

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Prepare to step into the world of Accessory Dwelling Units (ADUs) as Jonathan sits down with one of the industry's brightest minds, Derek Sherrell.

Fondly known as "that ADU guy," Derek's journey is anything but ordinary. Derek's story is captivating, from his undying passion for building treehouses in his early days to becoming one of the youngest licensed contractors in Oregon. Listen as he shares his secrets for creating beautifully finished projects that are as functional as they are stunning. As the conversation unfolds, Derek's insights on the unique criteria needed to successfully build ADUs - from infrastructure and lot size to alley access - will turn your perspective on its head.

Jonathan and Derek explore how ADUs play a crucial role in affordable housing, particularly in rural areas. In a post-pandemic world stricken with housing challenges, ADUs may just be the knight in shining armor we've been waiting for. They also delve deep into the advantages of ADUs for families and investors alike. Imagine having a close-by housing solution for a disabled family member or seeing your child taking their first steps towards independence in an ADU. Derek shares his experience using his ADU to house his 19-year-old son, teaching him critical life skills like bill management.

Finally, Jonathan and Derek navigate the complex maze of local zoning regulations for building ADUs. Derek stresses the importance of obtaining a Certificate of Occupancy before listing your property and shares unique strategies to overcome these complexities. As they wrap up, Derek's open-source approach to knowledge sharing and his future plans will inspire you to further explore the world of ADUs.

Whether you're a family seeking a nearby housing solution or an investor looking to maximize space, this episode promises to be a treasure trove of insights from the master builder himself, Derek Sherrell.

In this episode, you will hear:

Derek Sherrell's journey from building treehouses to becoming a licensed contractor and expert in Accessory Dwelling Units (ADUs)
The unique factors that influence the successful construction of an ADU, from infrastructure to lot size and alley access.
The pandemic's impact on the ADU industry and how ADUs could solve affordable housing issues in rural areas
Derek's explanation of the technical side of building ADUs highlights the importance of understanding local zoning regulations and strategies to navigate them
His open-source approach to sharing knowledge in the industry, including offering pro bono consultations to motivated first-time buyers
The importance of obtaining a Certificate of Occupancy before listing a property with an ADU since many ADUs across the country are not permitted
Derek's future plans to continue to build as much housing as possible, with a current focus on buying larger pieces of land that can be split up and slowly built out - a strategy he terms "land hacking"

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052: Perfecting the House Hacking Strategy with Craig Curelop Jul 12, 2023

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Ready to unlock the secrets of real estate investing and house hacking?

In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan sits down with trailblazer Craig Curelop, the founder of The FI Team and author of the acclaimed House Hacking Strategy book for Bigger Pockets. Craig shares his journey from his very first investment property, a duplex near the Bigger Pockets office, to becoming a respected figure in the industry. His advice? Break some comfort zones!

Together, Jonathan and Craig navigate the ever-evolving world of house hacking, from its humble origins to the booming trend that it is today. Hear firsthand how pioneers like Brandon and Scott shaped the industry and how platforms like Airbnb have revolutionized house hacking. Craig emphasizes the need to stay abreast of industry trends and the value of having a diverse investment portfolio.

In the heart of their conversation, Jonathan and Craig get practical. Craig shares his expertise on building a competent real estate team and the fluctuating dynamics of house flipping. They also outline the pros and cons of different investment strategies and assess their relevance in current market conditions.

Whether you're an experienced investor or just starting, get ready to venture into the exciting world of real estate investing and house hacking!

In this episode, you will hear:

How Craig discovered real estate investing and the significance of stepping out of your comfort zone, using his first investment property as an example
The evolution of house hacking and Craig's balanced perspective on the potential benefits and pitfalls of adopting such trends
Why it's important to understand market trends and the potential risks and benefits of being an early adopter of a new investment strategy
The pros and cons of residential versus commercial investing and renting-by-the-room as an alternative strategy in areas where housing is becoming more expensive
Different kinds of house hacking strategies and why you must understand the market you're investing in as well as the potential value of auxiliary dwelling units (mother-in-law suites)
Craig's experience with house hacking and how it highlights the importance of having the right team for real estate investing and the difference between residential versus investor appraisals

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051: Transforming Lives Through Real Estate with Matt Faircloth Jul 05, 2023

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What if you could journey from your first house hack to owning a real estate empire? Brace yourselves for an eye-opening conversation as Jonathan interviews Matt Faircloth, the founder and CEO of DeRosa Group and the author of the Amazon bestseller Raising Private Capital.

In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Matt unravels his audacious journey to real estate investing, which he embarked on with his wife in 2005, inspired by the book Rich Dad Poor Dad. He talks about their humble start with a house hack outside of Philadelphia to their eventual foray into commercial real estate despite challenging circumstances.

Do you want to know what it takes to turn adversity into opportunity in the world of real estate? Listen in as Matt shares how he and his wife battled multiple challenges, from roommate issues to a collapsing economy, and turned a potential disaster into a success. He shares the story of their investment in an office building and how they turned it around when the plan to rent it to the state of New Jersey fell through. Hear how they transformed this setback into a win by converting the building into profitable micro office leases modeled after Regis.

Lastly, Matt offers invaluable advice on the importance of building trust, maintaining integrity, and developing a solid track record when seeking outside investors. He warns against relying on "gurus" and urges new investors to emphasize doing right by people. He also discusses the Roster Group's strategy for diversifying investments, the benefit of investing in multifamily units, and the importance of having the right mentor and business systems in place.

In this episode, you will hear:

Matt Faircloth's journey from house hacking in Philadelphia to becoming a seasoned real estate investor and CEO of DeRosa Group
The challenges and lessons he's learned in real estate investing, including a failed plan to rent an office building to the state of New Jersey
Matt's views on the importance of building trust, maintaining integrity, and educating potential investors in the real estate industry
The value of diversifying investments and avoiding reliance on "gurus" in the real estate space
What the benefits of investing in multifamily housing are, and how to identify genuine and fake gurus in the real estate industry
Matt's first experience of raising capital from investors outside his immediate family, marking a significant step in scaling up his real estate investment business

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DeRosa Group - derosagroup.com

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Connect with Matt on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mdfaircloth/

Raising Private Capital by Matt Faircloth - store.biggerpockets.com/products/raising-private-capital-revised-edition

BiggerPockets - www.biggerpockets.com

Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

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050: How Regular People Can Do Extraordinary Things in Real Estate with Tim Lyons Jun 28, 2023

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What if you could transform your life through real estate investing while still maintaining your day job? That's exactly what Tim Lyons, Jonathan's guest this week--co-founder and managing partner of Cityside Capital--accomplished.

In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Tim shares his journey from burnt-out W-2 worker with an 18-year tenure as an NYC firefighter to successful real estate investor, landlord, and podcast co-host of the Passive Income Brothers.

Tim emphasizes the importance of understanding your local market and sheds light on how commercial real estate can be less complicated than one-to-four-unit residential properties. He also reveals how he and his brother Greg leveraged their unique backgrounds to build Cityside Capital, a thriving real estate business, and offers advice for aspiring real estate entrepreneurs.

Finally, Tim and Jonathan explore the power of joining a mastermind group or coaching program to gain accountability and support, which propelled Tim's success and helped him create a lasting family legacy.

In this episode, you will hear:

Tim's journey from burnt-out W2 worker to successful real estate investor, balancing the demands of a firefighting career
The importance of understanding the local market and how commercial real estate can be less complicated than residential properties
Tim and his brother Greg's partnership to form Cityside Capital, leveraging their background and experience for success
The value of joining a mastermind group or coaching program for accountability, support, and collective knowledge in real estate investing
Harnessing the power of learning, doing, and teaching in real estate to propel forward and share knowledge with others

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Tim Lyons' website - www.citysidecap.com

Cityside Capital on YouTube - www.youtube.com/@citysidecapital

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Connect with Tim on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/tim-lyons-cityside-capital

Tim Lyons on Twitter - twitter.com/Tim_CitysideCap

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049: From Land Investing to Buying an Entire Town with Jon Jasniak Jun 21, 2023

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Ever dreamt of escaping the daily grind and owning your own town? Well, that's exactly what real estate investor Jon Jasniak did!

In his conversation with Jonathan, Jon shares his journey from having no interest in real estate to purchasing over 700 pieces of land and even owning an unincorporated town in Texas.

In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan and Jon dive deep into land investing strategies, discussing how Jon targets absentee landowners for quick sales, conducts due diligence, and utilizes Geographic Information System (GIS) research to find the right land deals. You'll also learn about the challenges and unique experiences of buying the town of Cornutus, Texas – including an exciting discovery in a safe!

Financing large land deals can seem daunting, but Jon has you covered. He shares his insights on utilizing seller financing and private money to make your land-investing dreams a reality. So if you're ready to learn from Jon's incredible land investing experiences and maybe even start your own real estate empire, you won't want to miss this episode!

In this episode, you will hear:

Jon Jasniak's journey from stock trading to land investing began after hearing about land investments on a podcast and how he has since purchased over 700 pieces of land, including a town in Texas
His land investing strategy involving targeting absentee landowners for quick sales and conducting thorough due diligence before buying land
Subdividing land can be profitable but requires expertise and knowledge of local regulations and why you should start with minor subdivisions
Jon's use of seller financing and private money to finance large land deals, aiming for a 7% interest rate as a middle ground that works for both parties
The importance of building relationships and asking the right questions, and the importance of having a team to help scale investment

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Connect with Jon on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jon-jasniak-330773142

Website - www.streamlined.properties

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048: How to Start Collecting Keys as a Real Estate Investor with Mike DeHaan Jun 14, 2023

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What happens when a corporate engineer at Boeing unexpectedly dives into the world of real estate investing? Mike DeHaan joins Jonathan on this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing to share his incredible journey, revealing how a sudden rent increase and a chance encounter with an investor-friendly realtor sparked his interest in the industry. They discuss the importance of building trust and strong relationships in real estate and how having the right realtor can be the key to success.

Jonathan also explores Mike's strategies for scaling his real estate business - from liquidating his 401(k) to buy rental properties to flipping houses with partners and entering the real estate "cool kids club." Learn about his marketing tactics, such as direct mail and SMS campaigns, and how transparency and relationship-building were crucial to his accomplishments. Plus, we delve into lead generation challenges in competitive markets and Mike's strategic pivot to wholesale real estate.

Finally, Mike shares his thoughts on the opportunities and hurdles in real estate wholesaling, including creating a trust funnel through retargeted online campaigns and a robust sales team. He explains the importance of having a small, solid list of buyers in each market and the concept of "whole tailing" when tenants are reluctant to leave.

In this episode, you will hear:

Real Estate Investing Trajectory and Tips
Scaling Up in Real Estate
Real Estate Investing Strategies and Selection
Scaling Real Estate With JV Partners
Real Estate Wholesaling Strategies
Real Estate Wholesaling Challenges and Opportunities

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Mike DeHaan's website - backyardhomebuyers.com

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Connect with Mike on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/michael-dehaan-20a27b63

Check out Mike DeHaan's podcast - collectingkeyspodcast.com

Learn how to become an Instant Investor - www.instantinvestorprogram.com

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047: Creating Vertical Equity with Real Estate with Shannon Robnett Jun 07, 2023

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Have you ever wondered what 27 years of real estate experience and a five-generation family history can teach you about the world of property investing? This week, Jonathan chats with Shannon Robnett, a seasoned real estate professional who has been involved in over $350 million worth of construction projects throughout his career. They discuss the transition from residential to commercial real estate, the appeal of industrial properties for businesses not needing fancy offices, and the advantages of vertical integration and equity in real estate.

In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan and Shannon also explore the differences between old-school and millionaire-next-door money and spending philosophies and how technology has revolutionized the real estate market. He shares his insights on long-term and short-term investment strategies, ground-up development, and the importance of understanding the five-year market cycle. You'll also hear the critical role of having a solid plan and the ability to execute it in today's fluctuating real estate climate.

Shannon lends his extensive knowledge and wisdom to provide valuable advice for both seasoned and aspiring real estate investors. From commercial property investing tips to the benefits of investing in industrial real estate, this episode is brimming with actionable steps to help you make the most of your real estate investments. Don't miss out on this opportunity to learn from Shannon Robnett's vast experience in the world of real estate.

In this episode, you will hear:

Real Estate Integration and Equity
Real Estate Investing Philosophies and Diversification
Real Estate Investing in Today's Climate
Real Estate Investing Fundamentals
Commercial Real Estate Investing Tips
Investing in Industrial Real Estate
Real Estate Investing for Passive Income

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Connect with Shannon on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/shannonrobnett

Website - www.streamlined.properties

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Email - info@streamlined.properties

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046: Documenting the Real Estate Investing Journey with Lili Thompson May 31, 2023

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Many new real estate investors are first introduced to investing when they learn about house hacking. They view it as a clever way to pay their mortgage while saving for their next home. For others, it introduces them to the world of real estate investing.

Once you've been introduced to real estate investing, you begin to learn all the methods available to you quickly. It can include mixed-use properties, wholesaling, or just buying and holding good deals.

In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Lili Thompson, a young real estate investor with a large YouTube following and a successful business. A former basketball player, she was first introduced to real estate as a child. After college, she began learning about real estate investing with podcasts and books, and--with the support of her parents--she embarked on her own investing career.

Lili is a young and successful investor, but in the last few years, she's learned many lessons she's eager to share with others.

In this episode, you will hear:

Lili's first exposures to real estate investing and how house hacking became her first foray into it following a basketball career
Her parents' role in her initial investment and how house-hacking turned into a short-term rental
Where she attained the confidence and knowledge to start investing during the pandemic and build relationships with other investors
How Lili got into wholesaling and overcame the bad reputation wholesaling has
Why a balanced approach helped her stick through the adversity
Lili's method for getting comfortable with what a low-cost property looks like and what it might take to renovate it
Her profit expectations when she started and how she accounts for solving problems during negotiations
Why this isn't a get-rich-quick scheme, and you have to approach it that way
The resume-building power of wholesaling and the importance of presenting yourself as a business or entrepreneur
How Lili overcame the pushback she got as a young, Black female investor and the accessibility and accountability her YouTube channel provides to others
What her future plans are with this tighter real estate market, and how content creation has played a part in new opportunities
The one piece of advice she'd give new investors

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Lili Invests - https://www.liliinvests.com/

Lili Thompson's website - https://www.liliinvests.com/

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Lili on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/liliinvests

Connect with Lili on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lili-thompson-62722390/

Visit Lili's TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@liliinvests

Exactly What to Say by Phil M. Jones - https://www.amazon.com/Exactly-What-Say-Influence-Impact-ebook/dp/B073SF65ZZ

Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

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Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

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Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/Streamlined%20Prop%20eXp

Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene

Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties/

Email - info@streamlined.properties

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045: How to Get Bulletproof Cashflow with Agostino Pintus May 24, 2023

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The path to building real estate wealth is often a winding one. Most real estate investors don't grow up knowing that they want to own or invest in it. In fact, it's more usual that they stumble upon the idea before diving into it as a career.

Finding a location where you can thrive as an investor is essential to creating the career you want. That might be your hometown, or it could be an entirely different state. But the better you know an area, the better your investment options will be.

In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan interviews Agostino Pintus. Agostino is a real estate investor, syndicator, and founder of Bulletproof Cashflow. With some experience as a landlord and after a corporate career as a CIO, he took the leap into full-time real estate investing and never looked back.

Agostino's background story is fascinating, and he shares his thoughts on gentrification, what makes a deal super juicy, and why land banks are a great place to find new investments.

In this episode, you will hear:

Agostino's path to real estate investing through becoming an accidental landlord and what led him to leave the corporate life for real estate
Why everyone needs a mentor in real estate investing
The appeal of Midwestern properties and what makes them great investments
Two things that make a deal super juicy for Agostino
What a land bank is, and why communities want to sell them to locals
Gentrification, its impact on the surrounding community, and what Agostino looks for when considering an area's potential development
Ohio's appeal to investors and unexpected costs that can come up in particular areas
One of the hardest things for new investors to understand
What a net lease is and how it can be beneficial
The hybridization of industrial buildings and what makes industrial real estate a good buy
When you need a property manager and the danger zone of property management
Agostino's company, Bulletproof Cashflow, and what it does
The biggest problems in real estate today
The impact of the book On the Shortness of Life has had on his life

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Agostino Pintus' website - www.agostinopintus.com

YouTube - www.youtube.com/bulletproofcashflow

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Instagram - www.instagram.com/bulletproofcashflow

LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/Agostinopintus

TikTok - www.tiktok.com/bulletproofcashflow

The Bulletproof Guide to Raising Capital - www.guidetocapital.com

The Bulletproof Guide to Finding a Broker - www.guidetobrokers.com

Bulletproof Cashflow - www.bulletproofcashflow.com

On the Shortness of Life by Seneca - www.amazon.com/Shortness-Life-Penguin-Great-Ideas/dp/0143036327

Website - www.streamlined.properties

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanGreeneRE/videos

Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene

Instagram - www.instagram.com/streamlinedproperties

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Zillow - www.zillow.com/profile/Streamlined%20Prop%20eXp

Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene

Facebook - www.facebook.com/streamlinedproperties/

Email - info@streamlined.properties

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044: How to Become a Land Shark with Brent Bowers May 17, 2023

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When you think of real estate investing, you probably envision houses, retail space, or maybe industrial buildings. But one of the easiest ways to get started in the business is to invest in land.

Land can offer a lower barrier of entry for new investors because the costs are usually much lower, making investing more accessible to younger investors as well. Land also usually comes with less emotional attachment, making it easier to buy and sell quickly. It's also easy to own without the ongoing maintenance required of owning homes or buildings.

In this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Brent Bowers, a land coach at The Land Sharks, is with Jonathan to talk about the benefits of investing in land. After spending more than eight years in the Army, he wanted to create a way to spend more time with his family and help others. Brent began investing in real estate and quickly pivoted to land, creating a successful niche for himself that allows him to spend more time with his family and teach others to do the same.

Investing in residential or commercial real estate isn't for everyone, and Brent explains why land can be an excellent alternative for those looking for a different way to invest in real estate.

In this episode, you will hear:

Brent's thoughts on service members becoming more interested in real estate while they're away and how having his partner on board made a huge difference
His experience with houses and why land has been a much better fit for him with a lower barrier of entry
The lack of emotional attachment to land in comparison to homes people have lived in
The types of land Brent buys, why he uses realtors who specialize in land, and the three steps he uses to find those agents
Why time is the ROI Brent wanted, and the lifestyle land investments allow him to have
What The Land Sharks program is and what it teaches
Land's lower price point and how that can allow younger investors to get into the game
How self-storage can be a good step up into buildings from land investments for a tax deduction but with lower risk
The influence reading the book The 4-Hour Workweek had on Brent and the power of leverage
Grit and why it's so important for investors
Code violations and tax delinquencies as easy buys