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    What If Marvel was Real?

    What if… the Marvel Universe was real?

    In 1961 the Fantastic Four revealed themselves to the world and everything changed. Mike and Ed discuss the in-universe implications of super powers, aliens, monsters and more. From how Avenger Insurance will pay for Thor’s property damage to why Spider-man needs a new PR agency, its comic books discussions in a whole new way.

    Every issue covered in the Marvel Universe from the very beginning.

    Full backstory on every episode with transcripts at www.SuperSerious616.com

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    Episode 77 - Homegrown Super Villain? (The Amazing Spider-Man #4) -- September 1963 Sep 13, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode:

    Mike and Ed discuss the origins of Flint Marco, “The Sandman”. How easily will his powers be duplicated, now that we know how he got them? Also, given that he is a super-powered threat within New York City, why wasn’t he dispatched by one of our official super-teams? Did someone forget to “call the ball”? Why was Marco left for Spider-Man to deal with?

    In this issue:

    Spider-Man is… having trouble with his crime fighting career. You see, the street thugs have figured out that they can just call the cops when Spider-Man tries to stop them from committing a crime, and the cops may just believe that Spider-Man, the masked vigilante, may be the bad guy. One night, Spider-Man comes across a different problem, the Sandman, a criminal who can turn his body (and his clothing) to sand. Sandman soundly defeats Spider-Man, who races away in disgrace, leaving the Sandman to continue on with his crime spree. The Sandman also attains some notoriety as the evening news recounts how he gained his powers when he came across an atomic devices testing center and was caught in the blast (much like the Hulk). Anyway, the Sandman, while evading the police, ends up at Peter Parker’s high school. Peter changes into his Spider-Man duds and battles the Sandman, ultimately defeating him by vacuuming him up while he is in his particulate sand form.

    Assumed before the next episode:

    People are wondering how easy it is to gain fantastic powers.

    This episode takes place:

    After the Sandman has been defeated by Spider-Man.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

    Episode 76: Super-Skrull! The Fantastic Four-in-One! (Fantastic Four #18) -- September 1963 Sep 10, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode:

    Mike and Ed discuss a new alien race that seems to have all the powers of the Fantastic Four. Are all of their people like that, or just a subset of super-humans like us? Can WE create superheroes with ALL the powers? Is there something special about space and the power sets of the Fantastic Four? Also, not that we’re complaining, but do aliens give up their invasions after small setbacks?

    In this issue:

    Lightyears from earth, in the fifth quadrant of the Andromeda Galaxy, are the Skrulls, shapeshifting humanoids who are still smarting from their failed invasion of Earth the year prior. Not ones to give up, they have devoted all of their resources to creating a super being of their own, the Super Skrull, who has the powers of all four members of the Fantastic Four. They send the Super Skrull to Earth, and demonstrating a flair for the dramatic and a complete lack of self awareness, he lands in Times Square and claims the Earth for the Skrull Empire. The Fantastic Four meet the challenge and take the Super Skrull on. After a titanic battle, the Four turn tail and run. Fortunately, Reed Richards figures out that the Super Skrull is maintaining his strength through a power ray being beamed from the Skrull home world. And so he jams the beam, following which the Four are able to take the Super Skrull down. They seal him into a cave on a remote island, and that is that.

    Assumed before the next episode:

    People are relieved that their short time as Skrull subjects has come to an end.

    This episode takes place:

    After the Super Skrull is defeated.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

    Episode 75: The Avengers - the world’s most popular superhero team starting in 2012 - debut in 1963. Another superhero team in NYC - the NYC Duopoly (Avengers #1) -- September 1963 Sep 08, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode:

    Mike and Ed talk about the uniting of Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man, the Wasp, and the Hulk into a new super team called “The Avengers”. This is clearly a PR win for the Hulk, but what is in it for Iron Man and Thor? How do the Avengers relate to the US government and military? Are they a counter-balance to the Fantastic Four? Are they going to be based in New York, and if so, why double up in that city while leaving the west coast undefended?

    In this issue:

    Loki plots his revenge on Thor whilst imprisoned. He figures out that the best way to seek his revenge is to manipulate the Incredible Hulk. He does so by making it appear that the Hulk is damaging public property and putting the lives of innocents in danger. This leads to Thor, Ant-Man, the Wasp, and Iron Man to separately decide that they need to take the jade giant down. The four superheroes unite and track down the Hulk, who has disguised himself as a lifelike robot at a traveling circus. The four do battle with the Hulk until Loki is revealed as the true culprit. They make peace with the Hulk, who decides to join them in the world’s latest (second?) superhero team, The Avengers!

    Assumed before the next issue:

    People have whiplash in going from seeing the Hulk as a villain to seeing him as a hero.

    This episode takes place:

    After The Avengers have announced their team up to the world!


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

    Episode 74: The Uncanny X-men -- or is it the V-Men? (X-men #1) -- September 1963 Sep 06, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode:

    Mike and Ed discuss the most super-powered individuals to appear on the scene in a single day. Are they truly super-powered, or is this a case of more advanced technology? Is Magneto truly a villain, or is he trying to make the public aware of nefarious dealings within the US Military? Where are these super powers coming from? Are these our first Floridian super heroes? What is Magneto’s motivation? Also, what does the “X” stand for if not “10”?

    In this issue:

    We are introduced to the X-Men: Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Angel, Beast, and Iceman, as well as their leader Professor X. They all have strange and unusual powers which they were born with. Professor X trains them in the use of their powers at his school for these gifted youngsters, who are all in their teens. Meanwhile, Magneto, the master of magnetism, plots his next move against humanity from his secret laboratory near Cape Citadel in Florida. He has been using his amazing control over metal to cause military missile launches to misfire. And he then amps up the pressure by demanding the US military turn over the Cape Citadel base, failing which he will take it by force. The military do not capitulate, and as a result, Magneto follows through on his threat and takes the base by force. The X-Men spring into action and do battle with Magneto, working alongside the US military. They eventually defeat Magneto using their marvelous abilities, working together as a team.

    Assumed before the next episode:

    People are keen to learn more about America’s newest superhero team.

    This episode takes place:

    After the X-Men have defeated Magneto.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

    Episode 73: Super-genius Psychological Testing? Well, we need to do something to predict the next super science criminal! (Tales of Suspense #45) -- September 1963 Sep 03, 2021
    Show notes

    In This Episode:

    Mike and Ed discuss the latest “scientist gone bad” - this time, an engineer working at Stark Enterprises. If even mid-tier scientists have this tendency to go bad, how are we going to identify them before they do something that cannot be stopped by people like Iron Man? Also, Iron Man was unable to save Tony Stark from a car accident. Is one super-powered bodyguard enough for the billionaire?

    In this issue:

    Tony Stark crashes his race car, and bystander Happy Hogan comes to his rescue. Tony hires Happy to work as his chauffeur, and so begins their long and storied friendship. We also meet Tony’s long suffering assistant Pepper Potts.

    Tony, as Iron Man, stumbles upon one of his most trusted scientists, Professor Shapanka, breaking into his vault. Tony fires Shapanka for his treachery. Weeks later, Shapanka perfects his freezing technology, which allows him to coat himself in ice and freeze things. Shapanka goes on a crime spree, as Jack Frost, and proves more than a match for the city police. Iron Man and Jack Frost do battle, and Iron Man comes out on top by overheating the mad scientist.

    Assumed before the next episode:

    People are wondering which super-scientist will crack next.

    This episode takes place:

    After Shapanka/Jack Frost is arrested.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

    Episode 72: Merlin, alive and well in the modern age? A god, a monster, a wizard? Whoever he with the Washington Monument? (Journey Into Mystery 96) -- August 1963 Sep 01, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode:

    Mike and Ed discuss the implications of the original Merlin from the 4th century coming back to life in the modern day. As more and more of the ancient legends appear to be true, can we say there is some sort of cycle where every 1,500 years of so magic comes back into the world? Also, was the Thor/Merlin battle some sort of turf war? A battle of the “gods”?

    In this issue:

    The sarcophagus of Merlin, “famed wizard of King Arthur’s Court”, is delivered to New York City. Inside, the body of Merlin remains remarkably preserved, to the amazement of all. It turns out that Merlin is alive and well - he was just in a form of suspended animation - and awakens, fully intent on taking advantage of his emergence into the modern world. It turns out that Merlin actually does have magical powers, and murderous intent. Merlin quickly decides that the best way to get the world’s attention is to cause an experimental rocket to misfire. Thor bursts into action to correct the misfire. Undeterred, Merlin travels to Washington D.C. to meet the President. Thor intercedes and battles the mad magician. They do battle across the city until Thor changes to his human alter ego Dr. Donald Blake and then convinces Merlin that his magic is ten times more powerful than that of Merlin. Stunned, Merlin surrenders to Tho, and agrees to return to his crypt. And so endeth the tale of Merlin and his criminal adventures in 1963.

    Assumed before the next episode:

    People are intrigued by the introduction of Merlin to the world, long thought a purely fictional character. Who else will come to life in the modern age?

    This episode takes place:

    After Merlin has been defeated.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

    Episode 71: Who is Irresponsible Now? (Strange Tales #112) -- August 1963 Aug 30, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode:

    Mike and Ed discuss the irresponsibility of the Department of Energy - why were they storing an atomic weapon in New York City, how did they allow it to be stolen by a common criminal, and why did the bomb have a deadman switch that caused it to explode an hour after being exposed to air? Also, are we demanding too much of our teenage superheroes in comparison?

    In this issue:

    Johnny Storm, the Human Torch, shows off his marvelous abilities high above his hometown of Glenville, and to his surprise no one pays attention to him. In fact, they are annoyed. Their annoyance at the young showboater is confirmed on the news that night - Johnny is showing off and undermining the police, apparently, in the process. The public has turned on Johnny, feeling that he is just a grandstander, and not a true hero. Johnny investigates further and learned that the police are grateful for his help. He speaks with the newscaster who is drumming up negative vibes about him, Ted Braddock, and finds that his charm does not work on this crusty journalist. Public opinion continues to sour on the Torch. That evening, a man dressed in a purple body suit and mask who goes by the name the Eel robs a famous inventor of a mystery invention. It turns out the Eel is actually a janitor at the local aquarium, who has decided to turn to a life of crime. But to make matters worse, it turns out that the mystery invention is a miniature radioactive atomic pile - an atom bomb - and the deadman switch has been pulled by accident. Johnny springs into action to find the Eel, and eventually tracks him down. They battle - the Eel has a surprising amount of cool weapons, for a middle-aged custodian - but Johnny defeats him, takes the bomb, and flies into the sky with it above the bomb, pulling the harmful radiation skyward with him in a risky maneuver that pays off and saves the town (if not the Eastern seaboard). Sadly, Johnny Storm is reported deceased as a result of this wild mission, and the world mourns. But on the same newscast, he is reported to be alive. Braddock changes his tune on Johnny - but the Eel remains at large.

    Assumed before the next episode:

    People are recovering from the wild swings between disliking the Torch, mourning his death, and celebrating his recovery.

    This episode takes place:

    After Johnny Storm, the Human Torch, has been reported to be alive and well after saving millions of people from being disintegrated by an atom bomb.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

    Episode 70: How to fight the next war (Fantastic Four #17) -- Aug 27, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode:

    Mike and Ed discuss the “One Day War” with Dr. Doom and Latveria. Is this how all future wars will be fought - by destroying our ability to operate factories or use electronics? The Fantastic Four saved us this time, but what is to stop another attack? Should we take the war to Doom’s homeland? Is there a defence against this new type of attack? Or is our only defence an army of super-powered individuals fighting as “champions”?

    In this issue:

    The Fantastic Four are on the lookout for super-powered despot Dr. Doom. He eludes them, hiding in plain sight (somewhat), and then sends strange anthropomorphic floating creatures that are impervious to the Four’s powers, and are mainly sent to just irritate them. Dr. Doom then kidnaps the Thing’s girlfriend Alicia Masters, and also demands a post in JFK’s cabinet. JFK refuses to back down, which leads to Dr. Doom messing with their defence system. The Fantastic Four are tasked with bringing Doom down, and after a hard fought battle, they succeed, with the Invisible Girl taking Doom down through guts, guile, and strength.

    Assumed before the next episode:

    The world has learned of the tyranny of Dr. Doom, and are grateful for the Fantastic Four’s assistance in defeating him and restoring relative peace to the world.

    This episode takes place:

    After Doom has been defeated.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

    Episode 69: The Genius of Doctor Donald Blake (Journey Into Mystery #95) -- August 1963 Aug 25, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode:

    Mike and Ed discuss Dr. Donald Blake. He has been kidnapped twice (once by communists and once by aliens), and he is a world leader is germ warfare who also makes time to work as a surgeon and a family doctor. Most recently, he invented an android that is strong enough to withstand Thor’s hammer. Is Thor guarding Dr. Blake for his protection, or is he keeping an eye on him in case he “goes bad” like so many other geniuses? Also, is the android meant to protect us from superheroes gone bad?

    In this issue:

    Thor is secretly Dr. Donald Blake. As Dr. Blake, he has invented an android which Professor Zaxton demonstrates to a crowd at a science convention with the assistance of Thor. The android is amazing - he is able to solve the world’s most complicated mathematical problem and also withstand a strike from Thor’s hammer. The android malfunctions, and Thor disposes of it before it can do serious harm to anyone. Thor returns to his secret identity as Dr. Blake, and heads to his office. Professor Zaxton is waiting for him in his office, and he fills in Dr. Blake on his fiendish plan. You see, Professor Zaxton has invented a machine that can create copies of anything, and he wants Dr. Blake to help him use this technology to create copies of the android that he had invented. He has kidnapped Dr. Blake’s nurse Jane Foster to solicit his assistance. Dr. Blake turns into Thor, and before you know it Professor Zaxton uses his invention to duplicate Thor. He creates an exact copy who also has the opposite of Thor’s personality, and he remains under Professor Zaxton’s control. Thor battles his doppelgänger in the skies above New York City. Thor prevails over his evil copy, and returns to deal with Professor Zaxton, who makes a copy of himself and then falls to his death. Conveniently, the Zaxton copy is the opposite of the original - kind and benevolent. Thor then rescues Jane, and our tale comes to an end.

    Assumed before the next episode:

    People are wondering what makes Dr. Blake so special.

    This episode takes place:

    After Thor has defeated his evil doppelgänger.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

    Episode 68: Gods, aliens (Tales to Astonish #46) -- August 1963 Aug 23, 2021
    Show notes

    In this episode:

    Mike and Ed discuss the events happening in Greece. The Cyclops from Greek Legend is alive and well - and working with aliens! Could it be that the ancient gods who have suddenly appeared, including Thor and Loki, are actually aliens? And if so, are these aliens turning their attention to Earth after learning about our planet from the Fantastic Four going into outer space? also, does the first Greek superhero need a makeover?

    In this issue:

    Hank Pym (Ant-Man) and Janet Van Dyne (the Wasp) head to Greece for a well-earned vacation from crimefighting. While there, they try to book passage to the islands, and learn that the local sailors are too frightened to go. Apparently, a monster has been sighted in the islands, and everyone is staying away. They rent a boat and go to check it out for themselves. Sure enough, there is a giant one eyed monster - a Cyclops - on the island, who has been keeping sailors on the island. Not only that, there are aliens and spaceships on the island. Ant-Man listens in on the aliens - they were scouting ahead for an invasion. Ant-Man and the Wasp take the aliens down, and they also disable the Cyclops, which was just a big robot. The aliens reassess their plans to invade the Earth, concluding as they do that the Earthlings have greater powers than they had suspected as they were able to take control of the Cyclops robot. And that is how Ant-Man and the Wasp were able to foil an alien invasion whilst on vacation.

    Assumed before the next episode:

    People are scared off from traveling to Greece due to their apparent giant monster problem.

    This episode takes place:

    After Ant-Man and the Wasp have defeated the aliens and their robot monster.


    This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.superserious616.com

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