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Liquidity Rotation, a16z Twitter Hacked, State of Venture in 2025, Nobitex Hacked, AI Agents & Commerce, ZK Rollups and Infra with Jake Ostrovski, Regan Bozman, RJ, Sid Powell and Bobby Ghoshal Jun 19, 2025

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Timestamps

00:00 Introduction and Format Changes

06:05 Meme Tweets and Community Engagement

09:58 Market Analysis: Stablecoins and Trends

11:22 Guest Segment: Trading Insights with Jake

27:28 Security Concerns in Crypto

29:10 Guest Segment: Insights from Reagan on Market Trends

52:29 Exploring Zero-Knowledge Technology and Its Applications

56:19 The Rise of Stablecoins in Emerging Markets

59:38 The Future of Payment Solutions with Stablecoins

01:03:57 Building Native Rollups and Their Impact on Ethereum

01:09:51 The Shift Towards Revenue in DeFi Protocols

01:23:19 Navigating Challenges in the Crypto Landscape

01:34:28 Innovations in Internet Capital Markets with Dupe

𝗗𝗜𝗦𝗖𝗟𝗔𝗜𝗠𝗘𝗥: 𝘐𝘯𝘷𝘦𝘴𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘪𝘯 𝘤𝘳𝘺𝘱𝘵𝘰𝘤𝘶𝘳𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘺 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘋𝘦𝘍𝘪 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩 𝘪𝘯𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬𝘴 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘦𝘤𝘩𝘯𝘪𝘤𝘢𝘭 𝘳𝘪𝘴𝘬, 𝘩𝘶𝘮𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘳𝘳𝘰𝘳, 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮 𝘧𝘢𝘪𝘭𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘮𝘰𝘳𝘦. 𝘈𝘵 𝘤𝘦𝘳𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯 𝘱𝘰𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘳𝘰𝘶𝘨𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘩𝘢𝘯𝘯𝘦𝘭, 𝘸𝘦 𝘮𝘢𝘺 𝘦𝘢𝘳𝘯 𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘪𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘰𝘳 𝘧𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘴 𝘢 𝘴𝘱𝘰𝘯𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴𝘩𝘪𝘱, 𝘪𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘤𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘢𝘭𝘸𝘢𝘺𝘴 𝘮𝘢𝘬𝘦 𝘴𝘶𝘳𝘦 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘳. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘴𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘵𝘭𝘺 𝘢𝘯 𝘦𝘥𝘶𝘤𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘱𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘧𝘰𝘳𝘮, 𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘦 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘯𝘤𝘪𝘢𝘭 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘤𝘦. 𝘞𝘦 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘱𝘳𝘰𝘧𝘦𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘭𝘴 𝘰𝘳 𝘭𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘢𝘥𝘷𝘪𝘴𝘰𝘳𝘴.

TraderMayne On Trading Liquid Crypto Markets in 2025 Jun 18, 2025

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TraderMayne, co-founder of Breakout and an OG influencer, joins us today to discuss the state of the markets and how he is positioning for 2025.

We discuss who actually moves markets, whether institutions will kill CT influence, and what it takes to identify if you're actually good at trading versus just lucky. We also ask him about the dispersion in performance across many tokens, his takes on Hyperliquid, Fartcoin, SPX6900 and more.

Not our usual cup of tea, but it was a fun conversation.

TraderMayne shares the craziest stories from his prop firm Breakout, and why he chose to lean into building a prop firm to help new traders get off the ground in crypto.

Let's get into it.

The Rollup

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Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/

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Timestamps

00:00 Intro

00:48 Magic Ad

01:17 Trump News Cycles

04:38 Token Saturation?

06:39 Thoughts on Movement Coin

10:49 Gainsy’s Trading Approach

15:26 Starkware Ad

15:49 Mantle Ad

16:30 Building Breakout

24:40 HYPE vs Fartcoin

27:53 Trader Alpha

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Crypto meets military at DC celebration, Hyperliquid Hits ATH, Tron’s Trump-Backed Reverse Merger and The Age of Verifiable Apps with Bobby Beniers and Dylan Loomer Jun 18, 2025

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Timestamps

00:00 Global Tensions and Market Reactions

04:40 Coinbase and Military Sponsorship Controversy

06:09 Hyperliquid: The New Crypto Sensation?

09:30 Eigen Layer and the Future of Decentralized Apps

11:54 Kraken's New L2 Token: Ink and Market Dynamics

15:19 AI Investments and Market Insights

39:23 Market Analysis with TraderMain

46:21 Market Sentiment and Altcoin Dynamics

49:34 The Role of Movement Coins in Trading

52:28 The Meme Coin Phenomenon and Its Implications

53:51 Trading Strategies: Gainzy vs. Ansem

58:22 The Evolution of Breakout and Prop Trading

01:04:33 Diversifying Income in Crypto

01:06:31 Comparative Analysis of Fart Coin and Hype Coin

01:11:46 Market Positioning Ahead of FOMC

01:14:10 Revenue Models in Crypto

01:22:05 WorldCoin's Potential and User Distribution

01:31:21 CoinFund's Investment Insights and Success Stories

ZKJ Nuked, Bybit Drops Hybrid DEX on Solana, Solana ETF, AI x Crypto with Himanshu Tyagi, DCBuilder, Robbie Petersen, Zagabond, Jonah Burian Jun 16, 2025

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Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to The Roll Up TV and Guests

01:13 Recent Market Developments and Token Collapses

03:39 Bybit's Hybrid DEX Announcement

06:05 ETF Filings and Staking Language

09:00 Trump and Tron Going Public

11:50 Introduction to Himanshu and Sentient

12:35 The Vision Behind Sentient and Decentralized AI

18:20 The Importance of Verification in AI

24:29 Challenges in AI and Crypto Integration

28:20 Innovative Projects within the Sentient Ecosystem

33:05 DC Builder and Zero Knowledge Machine Learning

40:56 Proof of Personhood and the Future of Identity

44:33 Decentralized Identity and ZK Technologies

50:02 AI in Crypto: Current Landscape and Innovations

54:42 The Future of Identity Platforms and User Privacy

01:00:08 Blockchain Bottlenecks: Execution vs. Consensus

01:05:45 Institutional Interest Beyond Ethereum

01:08:32 The Dynamics of On-Chain Speculation

01:12:14 The Role of Wallets in User Retention

01:18:52 The Future of Stablecoins and AI Integration

01:28:51 The Future of Payments: Stablecoins vs. Real-Time Payment Networks

01:35:33 The Role of FinTech in Crypto Payments

01:36:30 Understanding the Value of Tokens in Crypto

01:49:03 JP Morgan's Entry into Stablecoins

01:52:20 Building a Brand: Azuki and the Anime Industry

MakerDAO Founder: We Built A $300M+ Onchain Business Jun 12, 2025

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Rune Christensen, co-founder of what was once MakerDAO and is now the Sky Ecosystem, joined us to answer timely questions about one of DeFi's most dramatic protocol transformations.

With a renewed focus on revenue (and a ton of ground to show for it - to the tune of $99M in Q1), Sky is poised to have a big rest of the year.

We discussed how SKY staking offers real yield through protocol revenue, USDS has growth to $8 billion in circulation, Sky's expansion across Layer 2s, and how Rune is thinking about growing the company.

Return to fundamentals is happening in real time.

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Why The "Institutions Are Coming" Meme Is Crypto's Biggest Lie with Pranav Kanade Jun 11, 2025

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The "institutions are coming".

This meme has been crypto's biggest false promise, but the truth behind it is more complicated than most people think.

In today's episode, we chat with Pranov from VanEck about how institutional money really enters crypto. We explore the shift from traditional venture approaches to a focus on liquid tokens as companies start launching tokens instead of IPOs.

Pranov argues the revenue meta is binary. Either crypto becomes legitimate through real business models, or it stays stuck as just a speculative market forever.

Let's get into it.

The Rollup

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Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/

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SEC DeFi Roundtable Recap, Digital Asset Venture Landscape, The State of ZK, The Future of DeFi with Nick White, Dmitriy Berenzon, DeFi Dad, Shiv Shankar, Omer Goldberg and Camila Russo Jun 11, 2025

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Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to the Roll Up TV and Guests

02:10 Regulatory Developments in DeFi

09:17 Hot Takes on Crypto Networks and Moats

13:41 Insights from Dimitri on VC Landscape

18:00 Quantum Computing and Its Impact on Bitcoin

24:30 The Rise of Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Networks

30:14 Future of AI and Decentralized Compute

36:08 Discussion with DeFi Dad on Ethereum and DeFi Market

43:13 Ethereum's Resilience and User Perspective

45:41 Innovations in DeFi and New Financial Primitives

53:11 The Future of Airdrops and Marketing Strategies

01:05:43 Leadership Transition and the ZK Market

01:10:05 The Rise of ZK Technology and Its Implications

01:19:34 Privacy in ZK Applications and Future Use Cases

01:28:25 Real-Time Proving and Performance Milestones

01:30:17 The Role of Zero-Knowledge Proofs in Crypto

01:31:46 Understanding Chaos Labs and Oracle Problems

01:39:21 Resilience in DeFi Protocols

01:42:40 The Rise of Central Limit Order Books

01:48:45 Solana ETFs and Institutional Interest in Crypto

01:51:05 The Evolution of Crypto Media and DeFi Coverage

02:04:12 Ethereum Foundation's Shift Towards DeFi

Insights from MakerDAO’s Founder, Scaling Bridges Without Breaking UX, Deploying Crypto VC Capital in 2025 with Rune Christensen, Lito Coen, Mads Mathisen & David Phelps Jun 09, 2025

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Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to DeFi and Recent Headlines

02:12 SEC Talks and Market Structure Bill

05:09 Regulatory Clarity and Its Implications

06:09 Demand for New Tokens and ICOs

08:26 Convergence of Markets and Media

11:24 Introduction of Rune and Maker's Evolution

19:02 Circle's IPO and Its Impact on the Industry

21:25 Sky's Business Model and User Base

24:37 Targeting Mercenary Capital in DeFi

27:27 Sky Agent Framework and Its Functionality

33:30 DeFi Interoperability and Notable Projects

35:53 Navigating the Risk Framework for Profit Generation

38:09 The Exponential Bet on Star Ecosystems

40:01 The Future of Stablecoins and AI in Finance

41:49 The Resurgence of DeFi and Institutional Interest

45:32 Innovative On-Chain Applications and Yield Opportunities

49:23 The Role of Ethereum Foundation in DeFi

52:12 Building an Incubator for Ethereum Startups

54:33 The State of Interoperability in Blockchain

01:01:03 Evaluating the Future of Layer 1s and Applications

01:12:56 The Stablecoin Boom and Investment Opportunities

01:17:21 IPO Trends in Crypto and On-Chain IPOs

01:21:11 The Rise of New Founders in Crypto

01:26:08 Vibes and Financialization: The Degenification of Society

01:41:32 User Experience in Crypto Apps and Wallets

How Stablecoins Are Driving Global Payments with Ryne Saxe Jun 07, 2025

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Stablecoin fragmentation is getting worse before it gets better, and that's exactly where the biggest opportunities lie.

In today's episode, we sit down with Ryne, the founder of Eco to explore how stablecoins have become crypto's most successful product and why their fragmentation across chains creates massive opportunities.

We cover why new issuers are challenging Tether and Circle, how purpose-built chains are optimizing for stablecoin flows, and Eco's vision of becoming the "Visa of stablecoins" by letting users hold stables anywhere and spend them everywhere with one-click simplicity.

Let's get into it.

The Rollup

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Newton is the trust layer for autonomous finance. Smart. Secure. Verifiable. Built for a future where AI agents replace apps and interfaces. Learn more here: https://www.magicnewton.com/

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Pump.Fun 1B Token Launch, 3Jane Raises $5.2M for Credit-Based Money Market, Moonpay grabs coveted Bitlicense with Jason Yanowitz, Bobbin Threadbare, Jeff Garzik & Binji Jun 05, 2025

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Timestamps

00:00 Trump's Crypto Wallet Launch

03:08 The Death of the Crypto Foundation Model

06:09 Ethereum's New Model and Strategic Goals

09:03 The Future of Ethereum and Its Competition

11:49 Delphi's AI Month and Investment Strategies

18:05 Building on Athena: The Ethereal Project

42:10 The Evolving Landscape of On-Chain Trading

43:08 Innovative Features and User Engagement

45:58 Building a Vertically Integrated DeFi Ecosystem

49:23 Liquidity Challenges and Strategies

52:20 User Base and Market Positioning

56:08 Iterative Product Development and Success

01:00:52 Balancing Adoption and Revenue Generation

01:06:31 Institutional Relationships and Tokenization

01:10:50 Future of Stablecoins and Market Trends

01:25:15 The Rise of Hyper Liquid Trading

01:27:11 Shifting Perspectives on Crypto Foundations

01:28:36 The Future of Tokenomics and Revenue Generation

01:34:39 Founders' Evolving Approach to Business Models

01:38:06 New Hampshire: A Hidden Crypto Hub?

01:40:34 The Importance of Revenue in Crypto Projects

01:43:25 Comparing Ethereum and Solana Events

01:45:23 The Lore of Lawrence and Wildcat's Unique Marketing

01:51:50 Innovations in Under-Collateralized Lending

01:56:58 The Future of Liquidation Mechanisms in DeFi

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