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    The Nathan Barry Show

    As the CEO of Kit, Nathan Barry has a front row seat to what’s working in the most successful creator businesses.

    On The Nathan Barry Show, he interviews top creators and dives into the inner workings of their businesses in his live coaching sessions.

    You get unique insight into how creator businesses work and what you can do to increase results in your own business.

    One of the things Nathan is passionate about is helping you create leverage.

    Creator Flywheels let you create many copies of yourself so you don’t get bogged down with the little things in your business. Flywheels will help you reach a place where you can focus on revenue instead of busywork.

    Tune in weekly for new episodes with ideas and tips for growing your business. You’ll hear discussions around building an audience, earning a living as a creator, and Nathan’s insights on scaling a software company to $100M.

    Learn how to get more results with less effort and:

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    How To Actually Become A Successful Creator In 2026 | Chase Reeves | 121 Apr 02, 2026
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    How do you actually become a successful long-term creator? Chase Reeves, a multi-talented creator ranging from musician to designer to coach, joins Nathan Barry to explore the unexpected ingredients for long-term success. Chase unpacks his unique journey, from pirated Photoshop to crafting captivating content, revealing how developing "taste" isn't just about technical skills, but a deep, soulful curiosity. This episode takes a dive into the critical balance between external validation and internal drive, why "actual" people connect with authenticity, and how embracing a little chaos might just be the secret sauce for innovation and genuine impact. Get ready to rethink how you approach your craft and cultivate a career that truly resonates.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    02:18 Intentionality and the exploration of feeling
    05:37 How Chase developed taste and his approach to making things
    09:24 The internet rewards performance, not integration
    12:54 How to sustain long-term growth and avoid burnout
    16:53 Connecting with your audience and understanding their needs
    20:47 Being playful and holding things loosely
    24:00 How small groups and men's work create healing through witness
    27:31 The cure for addiction is intimacy
    31:05 The difference between feeling good and being good
    34:10 The role of curiosity in building taste
    37:25 How to make a living while pursuing creative passions
    41:40 The power of saying "no" to opportunities
    44:25 Why creators need to protect their mental health
    47:20 Finding your unique voice in a crowded world
    50:10 Building a sustainable creative practice
    01:10:02 Embracing discomfort as a path to innovation
    01:20:30 Final thoughts on being a successful long-term creator

    If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.

    Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/show

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    Highlights:
    01:51 – Musicians to content creators is an underused path
    06:26 – Your nervous system matters in business
    09:03 – Taste is higher than capabilities in the beginning
    12:00 – Make something that's an exact copy
    15:18 – Deep sense of insecurity fuels learning
    19:50 – The internet rewards performance, not integration
    27:31 – The cure for addiction is intimacy


    My Habits For (Almost) Limitless Energy | Simon Alexander Ong | 121 Mar 25, 2026
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    How do you live an energized life—not just physically, but mentally, emotionally, and spiritually? Simon Alexander Ong, author of the bestselling book "Energize," joins Nathan in a captivating conversation that unpacks the profound difference between simply managing time and mastering energy. Simon, whose journey from the high-stakes world of finance to a renowned speaker and coach, offers a unique perspective on consistency over intensity, the power of gratitude, and why detaching from outcomes is the secret to sustained creativity and joy. This episode is a must-listen for creators and leaders striving to avoid burnout, cultivate a positive mindset, and harness their inner force to achieve their biggest goals.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    01:14 From finance to fulfillment
    06:05 From comparison to inspiration
    12:00 Mission, purpose, and seeing life as a game
    16:16 Wisdom begins with knowing yourself
    22:36 Finding stillness and inner rest
    28:10 The emotional side of action
    34:00 The power of loosening up
    41:40 Shifting from control to connection
    46:00 The four dimensions of energy
    50:11 Seasonal approach to energy
    54:26 Inspiration from outside your industry
    58:30 Leveraging novelty for marketing
    1:04:19 Question storming for deeper insights
    1:08:26 Leading with proud energy
    1:12:30 Expressing gratitude verbally
    1:18:18 Energetic decision-making

    If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.

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    Website: https://simonalexanderong.com

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    The Aughts Hotel: https://aughts.co
    Adam Grant: https://www.adamgrant.com
    Basecamp: https://basecamp.com

    Highlights:
    06:05 From comparison to inspiration
    16:16 Wisdom begins with knowing yourself
    34:00 The power of loosening up
    46:00 The four dimensions of energy
    58:30 Leveraging novelty for marketing
    1:12:30 Expressing gratitude verbally


    How I Helped Grow Diary of a CEO to 14M Subscribers | Grace Miller | 120 Mar 19, 2026
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    She helped grow a YouTube channel from 100,000 to 14 million subscribers in just four years, all while balancing a suite of other successful podcasts and media ventures? Grace Miller, Head of Failure and Experimentation at Flight Story, the powerhouse behind "The Diary of a CEO" and other massive shows, shares her unique insights. In this episode, Grace pulls back the curtain on the world of high-stakes content creation, revealing the ingenious experiments and surprising failures that have fueled their meteoric rise. If you're obsessed with crafting great content and eager to understand the nuanced mechanics of YouTube growth, this conversation offers an unparalleled look into how one of the industry's leading teams navigates the ever-evolving digital landscape.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    02:00 The Scale of Diary of a CEO & Flight Story
    04:40 When Doubling Content Backfired
    08:01 Why Multiple YouTube Channels?
    13:00 Measuring YouTube Experiments
    15:37 Underutilized YouTube Features
    21:55 The Power of YouTube Chapters
    26:06 Anatomy of a Successful Experiment
    29:20 The Localization & Dub Experiment
    35:45 Designing Effective Experiments
    37:33 Core Metrics for YouTube Growth
    40:08 Tactics for Returning Viewers
    47:20 The Culture of Failure and Learning
    51:40 YouTube vs. Podcast Content
    54:26 Embracing Failure Personally
    59:00 The Value of Action Over Inaction
    1:03:00 Fostering a Culture of Experimentation
    1:11:57 AI in Content Creation
    1:16:17 The Future of the Creator Economy
    1:20:24 Targeting the Right Audience, Not Just All Audiences
    1:25:21 Grace's Personal Experimentation Journey
    1:28:31 Lead vs. Lagging Indicators for Growth

    If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.

    Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/show

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    Highlights:
    04:40 When Doubling Content Backfired
    08:01 Why Multiple YouTube Channels?
    13:00 Measuring YouTube Experiments
    15:37 Underutilized YouTube Features
    21:55 The Power of YouTube Chapters


    You Only Need This To Become Rich (Millionaire Explains) | Mike Brown | 119 Mar 12, 2026
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    Most people chase a single number, believing it holds the key to lasting happiness and an end to their worries. But what happens when you hit that number, or even exceed it, and find yourself staring into an emotional abyss? This week on The Nathan Barry Show, we sit down with Mike Brown, a former Navy fighter pilot who built and sold an eight-figure oil and gas company. He achieved what many dream of – supercars, a beautiful home, and immense wealth. Yet, he still found himself losing peace and $1.5 million in a failing venture, prompting a profound shift in his definition of "rich." Join us as Mike shares his powerful journey from external validation to true freedom, revealing why our pursuit of wealth often misses the point entirely.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    02:10 Mike sells his supercars and updates his values
    03:55 Embracing the "buy the ticket, take the ride" philosophy
    06:20 From Navy fighter pilot to oil and gas entrepreneur
    08:45 Finding a new definition of wealth: freedom
    15:58 Shifting from outcome goals to process goals
    20:55 Understanding dirty vs. clean fuel for motivation
    31:05 External validation and the never-ending treadmill
    36:30 The power of clean fuel: purpose and service
    41:15 How money serves two purposes
    44:10 The value of experiences over material possessions
    48:30 The spectrum of dirty and clean fuel
    52:30 When greatness comes at a cost
    57:25 Mechanical and emotional fixes for financial fear
    1:05:40 Maximizing return on happiness: experimental spending
    1:08:00 The highest leverage investments for entrepreneurs
    1:10:45 The invaluable cost of peace and personal growth

    If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.

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    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikebrownactual

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    Highlights:
    02:37 – How Your Bank Account & Calendar Show Your Values
    08:00 – Hitting Rock Bottom for a New Foundation
    16:00 – The Power of Process Goals Over Outcome Goals
    23:32 – Why Angel Investing Can Be "Dirty Fuel"
    37:35 – The Joy and Fulfillment of Serving Others
    44:50 – Maximizing "Return on Happiness"


    Live Coaching: How We're Growing This Business To $5M | Michael Sliwinski | 118 Mar 05, 2026
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    What does it take to grow a SaaS business from $1 million to $5 million annual recurring revenue when your revenue has plateaued? Michael Sliwinski, founder of the productivity app Nozbe, joins Nathan Barry to diagnose the core issues his business faces and map out a clear path forward. Michael, who flew all the way from Europe for this conversation, dives into the challenges of competing in a crowded market, the impact of a product rebuild, and the search for a compelling new positioning. This episode is a masterclass in auditing your business, identifying roadblocks, and strategizing for breakthrough growth, especially for founders navigating a competitive landscape and aiming for their next big milestone.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    01:05 Michael's journey to Nozbe
    02:51 From side hustle to $1 million ARR
    04:47 The Japan growth explosion
    06:17 Rebuilding Nozbe from scratch
    10:14 Competing with industry giants
    12:58 Breaking down business metrics and building blocks
    19:07 Understanding max MRR and the S-curve
    22:42 The flatlining awareness and traffic
    25:02 Expansion and multi-seat customers
    29:43 Legacy customers on the old vs. new Nozbe
    30:52 Strong customer retention and low churn
    37:25 Key metrics and dashboard visibility
    39:46 Accountability through weekly revenue meetings
    42:07 The effectiveness of current content strategies
    46:27 Partnership success with a productivity consultant
    51:09 Direct sales for partners
    53:01 Reframing positioning for growth
    56:19 The core promise of Nozbe: The tool teams actually use
    59:43 The "boulder pushing" analogy
    1:02:18 Strategy for identifying and incentivizing new partners
    1:11:34 Tapping into true fans for new partner leads
    1:14:57 Michael's reflections and next steps

    If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.

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    Highlights:
    02:17 – ZDNet feature blew up Nozbe
    05:13 – iPad app success in Japan
    09:27 – Impact and the $5M goal
    11:54 – Customer loyalty despite competitors
    22:15 – Demo meetings and their conversion rates
    32:27 – Customers prepaid until 2040
    57:33 – Why simpler is better for teams


    The Ultimate AI Masterclass For Businesses in 2026 | Dan Cumberland | 117 Feb 26, 2026
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    The secret to truly enjoying your work, even in the age of AI? According to serial founder Dan Cumberland, it starts with eliminating friction and leveraging AI to become the creator you've always wanted to be. Most people think AI is just for marketing, or they make critical mistakes by relying on an individual chat's memory. In this episode, Dan dives deep into how high-earning creators and companies can implement human-centered AI systems that don’t just save time, but actually help them connect more deeply with their audience and their own purpose. He shares actionable insights, practical examples, and crucial tips on how to build robust, portable context for your AI, transforming your business from the inside out.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    02:00 Simplifying email newsletters with AI automation
    05:07 Repurposing podcast content for TikTok
    09:06 The importance of bottleneck identification in AI workflows
    14:53 Context engineering: The foundation of effective AI use
    19:12 The benefits of portable AI context
    22:04 Crafting context documents for optimal AI output
    27:40 Why focusing on AI for operations is key
    31:03 Workflow design and the "sous chef" AI analogy
    35:28 Breaking down complex tasks for better AI results
    39:45 How AI generated content exploded traffic by 5x
    42:00 Utilizing Claude's skills and slash commands
    44:14 Integrating AI into your development environment with Cursor
    50:40 Optimizing idea capture systems with AI
    56:45 AI as a sounding board for human connection
    1:03:57 Redefining work in the age of AI
    1:08:40 Extending products with vibe-coded AI apps
    1:12:30 Documenting transformations for killer testimonials

    If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.

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    Zapier: https://zapier.com


    Become a Bestseller With This Book Launch Formula | Tim Grahl | 116 Feb 19, 2026
    Show notes

    What does it truly take to launch a phenomenon? Most authors dream of hitting the bestseller list, but today's guest, Tim Grahl, flips that goal on its head. He's revealing the counterintuitive truth about enduring book success, explaining why chasing a fleeting "bestseller" title might actually hinder your book's long-term impact. If your vision for your book extends beyond a single week of sales to creating a lasting legacy, this episode is packed with essential strategies. Learn why "readers" trump "sales" and how to engineer word-of-mouth that propels your book for years, not just days. Prepare to redefine what a successful book launch truly means.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    00:00:51 Book launch definitions and timelines
    00:03:34 Redefining "bestselling" beyond the lists
    00:08:33 The one thing and Atomic Habits approaches
    00:11:35 Tim's three categories for launching a book
    00:14:05 Leveraging influencer networks as the biggest lever
    00:19:07 Influencer promotion strategies
    00:21:09 Getting fans to buy: creating scarcity
    00:24:28 The most impactful book bonuses
    00:28:55 Getting fans to share (the least impactful strategy)
    00:31:11 Why direct advertising isn't profitable for books
    00:34:40 The 10,000 reader rule for long-term success
    00:42:41 Engineering word of mouth
    00:46:28 Getting free copies into the hands of readers
    00:50:55 Identifying and reaching relevant tribes
    00:52:26 Tim's resources for authors

    If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.

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    Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald: https://www.amazon.com/Great-Gatsby-F-Scott-Fitzgerald/dp/0743273567
    Tribes by Seth Godin: https://www.sethgodin.com/books/tribes

    Highlights:
    01:38 – Why a book launch should last two years
    05:34 – Selling a high volume doesn't always mean long-term success
    13:11 – The 95/5 principle of book marketing
    23:06 – The most effective and least effective bonuses
    34:40 – The 10,000 reader rule explained
    43:19 – Give away as many copies as possible
    48:56 – Creative ways to get your book into readers' hands


    How To Train Your Mind Like The World's Best Athletes | Justin Su'a | 115 Feb 12, 2026
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    What does it truly take to operate at the pinnacle of human performance? Justin Su'a, a leading expert in performance psychology, joins Nathan Barry to reveal the mindset shifts and practical tactics employed by professional athletes, elite military units, and top-tier companies like Google and Lululemon. From confronting challenging leaders to navigating the intense pressure of the World Series, Justin shares invaluable lessons on embracing obstacles, seeking critical feedback, and building relationships strong enough to withstand even the harshest truths. If you're striving for excellence, looking to lead more effectively, or simply want to learn how the best in the world maintain their edge, this episode is packed with actionable insights.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    02:18 Challenging a Military Leader's Perspective
    05:14 Asking Questions Instead of Giving Answers
    06:21 Difficult Feedback in Professional Sports
    09:05 Addressing Lack of Self-Awareness
    12:51 The "It's Not Sufficient" Principle
    15:19 Tuckman's Law of Team Development
    19:03 Navigating VUCA Environments
    20:00 Building Truth-Bearing Relationships
    24:37 Scoring Relationship Strength
    26:01 The Pressure of Sustained Success
    34:25 Seeking Critical Feedback from Compliments
    37:25 Soliciting Feedback from Your Team
    39:07 The Dangers of Untruthful Inner Circles
    42:15 Positive Sum vs. Zero Sum Games
    46:17 Mental Rumble Strips to Manage Pressure
    52:03 Crafting Effective Communication for Teams
    57:12 Leading by Example with Vulnerability
    1:02:19 Reinventing as a High Performer
    1:06:50 Justin's Journey into Content Creation

    If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.

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    How I Actually Grew To 1M+ Subscribers On YouTube (Noah Kagan) | 114 Feb 05, 2026
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    What does it take to build a million-subscriber YouTube channel, launch a best-selling book, and then walk away from it all for over a year? Noah Kagan, founder of AppSumo, joins Nathan to candidly discuss his journey from full-throttle content creation to a deliberate pause. Noah shares the unexpected internal and external pressures that came with his meteoric rise on YouTube, the strategic decisions that led to viral success, and why, despite achieving his goals, he ultimately stepped back. This conversation offers a rare glimpse into the mindset of a creator who prioritized personal fulfillment over endless growth, and how that decision reshaped his approach to content, business, and life.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    02:26 The decision to go all-in on YouTube
    05:15 Noah's internal motivations for content creation
    07:38 Building the YouTube "dream team"
    10:14 The early content strategy and challenges
    13:17 The pivotal "Knocking on Doors" video
    16:45 The cost of rapid growth and Noah's burnout
    19:10 The successful content pillars uncovered
    22:18 The meticulous planning behind viral videos
    25:34 Seeking timeless wisdom: interviewing the wealthy
    28:22 Noah's biggest regret with the channel
    30:58 Finding repeatable content formats
    33:55 Identifying your unique content edge
    37:25 The appeal of raw, unpolished content
    40:31 The impact of fatherhood on content creation
    43:10 Noah's vision for future content creation
    45:47 The value of a public presence for business
    48:29 The challenge of building internal influencers
    51:04 Brainstorming content ideas for Kit
    54:20 The power of high-caliber speakers
    57:38 Content that ties directly to your business
    1:00:27 Noah's current content philosophy
    1:02:40 On Twitter: counterintuitive long stories

    If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.

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    AppSumo: https://appsumo.com

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    Kit: https://www.kit.com
    AppSumo: https://appsumo.com
    Clickables: https://www.clickableshq.com
    Million Dollar Weekend: https://www.amazon.com/Million-Dollar-Weekend-Money-Freedom/dp/0593796593

    Highlights:
    02:15 – Questioning the "Why" of Content Creation
    08:29 – The Shift from Public Validation to Inner Contentment
    12:29 – The Audience Cares About Entertainment, Not You
    17:08 – The Challenge of Following a Viral Hit
    23:25 – Repeating What Works: The Kinko's Founder Interview
    36:00 – The Value of Raw, Unpolished Content
    53:08 – Using Conferences for High-Value Content


    How To Partner With Anyone In 2026 (Proven Framework) | Julia Taylor | 113 Jan 29, 2026
    Show notes

    What does it take to build a profitable, impactful business while empowering more than 100,000 women? Julia Taylor, founder of GeekPack, shares her incredible journey from the intelligence community to building a thriving company with a mission to reach a million women by 2030. In this episode, Julia unveils her "embedded partnerships framework" – a potent strategy that's catapulted 70% of her revenue this year alone by fostering deep, meaningful collaborations with major brands like Verizon and TikTok. Discover how strategic alignment, win-win-win scenarios, custom integrations, co-creation, and robust impact reporting are key to scaling your business and making a true difference.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction
    02:51 From Intelligence to Entrepreneurship
    06:23 The Confidence Transfer of Digital Skills
    09:12 What is GeekPack's Current Business & Mission?
    12:07 Point 1: Partnership Alignment
    15:19 Point 2: Win-Win-Win Framework
    17:09 Point 3: Custom Integration & Ecosystem
    21:04 Point 4: Co-creation and Delivery
    24:06 Point 5: Measurement and Momentum
    27:17 Scaling with In-Person Events
    30:20 CEO KPI: Public Mission Statements
    34:02 The Sales Process & Team Empowerment
    36:06 Hiring for Personality & Mission Alignment
    40:51 The B2B and B2C Flywheel
    44:17 Overcoming Bottlenecks: Time and Team
    48:29 Building a Talent Bench
    52:16 Audience Growth Strategies
    56:45 Your Role in Social Content Creation

    If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.

    Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/show

    Follow Nathan:
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarry
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    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshow
    Website: https://nathanbarry.com
    Kit: https://kit.com

    Follow Julia:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliathegeek
    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/julia_the_geek
    Website: https://geekpack.com

    Featured in this episode:
    Kit: https://www.kit.com
    Small Business Digital Ready (Verizon): https://www.verizon.com/about/responsibility/small-business-digital-ready
    Make: https://www.make.com/en
    Relay: https://www.relayfi.com
    SparkLoop: https://www.sparkloop.app

    Highlights:
    02:00 – Unpacking the Intelligence Community Past
    08:00 – The Power of Inspect Tools Confidence
    13:11 – Verizon and Geographic/Demographic Alignment
    22:00 – How Impact Reports Drive Momentum
    32:40 – Nathan's "Four Times a Month" Realization
    41:30 – Why Predictable Revenue Fuels Creativity
    54:10 – SparkLoop's Impact on Engaged Subscribers


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