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If you’re interested in learning how to get a fearful avoidant ex back then this is definitely the success story you want to pay attention to. I had the pleasure of talking to Aimee who is a tenured member of our program and ended up getting her ex back. Don’t believe me? We talked about, How she got her fearful avoidant ex back If following the ex recovery program actually worked How her ex proposed And much more Let’s just right into it. What Are Your Chances of Getting Your Ex Boyfriend Back? Take the quiz How Aimee Got Her Fearful Avoidant Ex To Propose Chris Seiter:All right, today, we’re going to be talking to Amy, who’s one of our more recent success stories in the Facebook group. And she’s got a really interesting one, because she’s not only gotten her ex back, but she’s got engaged to her ex. And man, you’ve got a lot here. Aimee:Yeah. Chris Seiter:Rich is a fearful-avoidant. He’s a doctor. He got really stressed based on COVID, and he even knows that you used this program to get them back, which is a huge… It’s pretty rare for a lot of people that I talked to you in they’re success stories. They’re embarrassed about it, but you seem like you’ve been completely honest and open with him about it, which is great, I think. Aimee:Yeah, I was. And he was actually proud of me for taking the initiative to get him back. He thought that was amazing. Chris Seiter:I think it’s cool that he looks at it that way, because there’s really two ways to look at it, which is, “You used the program to get me back. Oh, that’s so cool that you cared enough to use something like that to get me back.” And then there’s the like, “You’re weak for using a program.” And usually, I think most women and men who get their exes back are just scared to tell their exes that they had to get help. But anyways, let’s go back in time. Aimee:I was scared. Chris Seiter:Oh you were? Aimee:I was scared in the beginning, I was. But then he just made me feel comfortable. So I blurted it out after a glass of wine, unfortunately. But he was so receptive and wanted to know more about it, actually. Chris Seiter:Oh, that’s great. That’s great. Aimee:Yeah. Chris Seiter:So you probably let him into the Facebook group and he could see how everything’s on- Aimee:I did not. Chris Seiter:Okay. Aimee:No, no, no, no. Chris Seiter:That’s too much for him. Aimee:It’s too much. Chris Seiter:Okay. So why don’t we go back in time, and why don’t you just introduce us to how this breakup came about and your journey. And then we’ll ask questions to figure out what you did right. Aimee:Okay. So he and I were just at a year, and we were making plans to move in together, and COVID happened. And actually, COVID happened about three months after we started dating. So it was really difficult dating. All of our dates were at parks, picnics, that kind of thing. But a lot of one on one time. Chris Seiter:Couldn’t go out to eat, couldn’t see a movie, do things like that. Aimee:Correct. We couldn’t. Right. But I think that it actually brought us closer quicker because of all the talking. But anyway, we were just at a year. We were planning on moving in together. And the week before we were moving in, he canceled that out of the blue. And then about two weeks after that, he broke up with me out of the blue. There was no indication to me that there was a problem. I was just dumped. And I’m not- Chris Seiter:Did he do it… I don’t mean to interrupt. Did he do it over text or did he do this in person? Aimee:Oh my God, yes. He tried, but I’m not okay with that. He tried to do it over text ,and I texted him back that that was not acceptable. So he called me and we talked about it. And actually, the first time he dumped me, we got back together for two weeks, and then he did it again. So it was twice. And then the second time- Chris Seiter:So how did you get him back? Before we get into the permanent one where you got engaged, how quickly did you get him back that first time before the second breakup occurred? Aimee:It was weird, because once I got him on the phone and we talked things through, it was immediate. We were back together. It’s almost as if- Chris Seiter:Okay. So it was just a conversation. Aimee:Correct. It was just a conversation. I never begged, I never natted, none of that. But then he did it again via text. And that, that was enough for me. And I texted him back that I agreed with him. I needed the space, the time, too. And that was the end. I never texted him again. Chris Seiter:Now, when you say you agree with him, did you just say it like that? Like, “I agree with you?” Aimee:I did. I did. Chris Seiter:Wow. Aimee:I said, “I agree with you. I need this, too.” And that was the end. He actually texted me after that, but I didn’t respond. Chris Seiter:Okay. So how did he exactly initiate this breakup the second time? Speaker 3:He said, “I love you, but I’m not in love with you. But I love you.” He kept repeating himself, “I love you, but I’m not in love with you, but I love you.” Chris Seiter:It’s such a paradox. Aimee:And right now… It was. It was Crazy. “And right now, I can’t be with you. Right now.” It was just like that. It was like, I love you, but I’m not in love with you. I love you. I can’t be with you right now.” And I was done. Chris Seiter:What was your first reaction upon saying like, “Okay, I agree with you?” what did you do after that? Aimee:I was angry because he did it by text again. So I have too much pride, I guess, to be okay with that. And so that was just… Yeah, I was done and I just agreed with him. And that was it. Chris Seiter:So do you think you saying, “I agree with you,” came from a more of a prideful stance or an anger stance, like, “Okay. I agree with you. We’re done?” Aimee:Yes. Chris Seiter:So, okay. I like it actually. Aimee:Yes, definitely. I was not going to be treated that way, and I felt I had more value than that. And I had tried to let him understand that the first time he broke up through text, but it didn’t seem to catch on, but the fearful avoidant part of him, I know that’s why he texted. Now, I know this. He was too afraid to do it over the phone. He was too afraid to do it in person. So, but at the time, I didn’t know that. Chris Seiter:The complications are scary for someone who has- Aimee:Oh yeah. He’s not good with that. Chris Seiter:Okay. So immediately after this breakup, you’re angry, hurt. At what point does that… So just to clarify, when you say, “I agree with you,” are you at any point thinking I need to immediately get this person back or is it like screw them, I don’t care about them? Aimee:I think when I texted him that, it was screw you, I don’t care. Yes. Chris Seiter:Okay, so how long did it take for the for the dial to shift more, to like, okay I [crosstalk 00:06:44]. Aimee:The next day. Chris Seiter:Okay. So it was a quick- Aimee:It was. Chris Seiter:The anger of the five stages of grief was very quick for you. Aimee:Yes. And you know why, though, because we had such a perfect relationship. We had never argued. We still haven’t. No arguments, no disagreements, and just a beautiful relationship. So yeah, I wanted it back. And he’s the first guy I’ve been with since my husband passed. And so I think that bond with him, I just- Chris Seiter:You had a strong connection. Aimee:We really did have a strong connection, yeah. Chris Seiter:You felt there was something special to this. Aimee:Sure. Chris Seiter:It seems like the only points of contention you guys ever had was related to this all of a sudden he comes out and says, “We can’t move in together,” and then breaks up with you quickly afterwards. And as we’re probably going to find out, probably that step of moving in together maybe freaked him out, do you think? Aimee:I think it did. I think it was the tip of the iceberg, honestly. It was just what put him over. Chris Seiter:Okay. Aimee:He couldn’t handle the relationship. He couldn’t handle the financials, the COVID, everything that was happening, his kids, everything that was happening at that time, the holidays, everything. Chris Seiter:Yeah. Well, we were talking before we started recording about some of the factors that caused the breakup, and there’s a lot there. You had mentioned that you’re a widow and he’s a widow. And then his kids did not want to meet you, so that weighs on him. Then there’s the COVID aspect of happening right when you start dating. So, it’s this weird situation for him, especially at work, because people don’t want to show up to work or show up because they’re afraid. And that created some financial stresses within him as well as work stresses within him. So maybe to compartmentalize, he’s like, “I need to put this relationship over here and just focus on these aspects.” Of course, it usually blows up in people’s faces who do that because, you can’t just pretend something doesn’t exist. Aimee:Right. I think that’s what he did though. He tried doing that. Chris Seiter:It’s almost like a coping mechanism. And I think it’s really relatable. I’m sure there’s areas in all of our lives that we’ve done the compartmentalization aspect without really thinking about it. We just do it as a way to cope. Aimee:Probably, I agree. Yes. Chris Seiter:Okay. Aimee:Yeah. It was a lot. And I think it just was the tip of the iceberg for him, the moving in, and he couldn’t handle it all. And I was the disposable thing, if you will. Chris Seiter:Yeah. I think you were probably the easiest thing to like, okay- Aimee:He thought. Chris Seiter:Yeah, he thought. Aimee:Yeah. Chris Seiter:It turns out you’ll out last COVID, you’ll outlast the stress, you’ll outlast all of the financial constraints. Aimee:Yes. Chris Seiter:Okay. So eventually you get to this point where you’re like, “Okay, I need to think about trying to repair this.” At what point do you come across our program, or our website, or our YouTube channel? What point of the stage does that occur? Aimee:I actually found it the night of the breakup, and so I guess the next day. It was that quick. Chris Seiter:So do you remember exactly if you were doing a Google search or you did a YouTube search? Aimee:It was a Google search that led me to the YouTube videos and I started on the videos. Yes, immediately. It just seemed like such a solid program. Of course, I was reading the reviews. And I’m a researcher, so I did a lot of research. And out of several, I picked this one. And actually the reason being, yeah, the reason being was to… Yes, I wanted him back, but I also wanted to find out why was it so easy for him to do what he did and via text, and I wanted to improve myself. I didn’t want it to happen ever again, whether I got him back or not. Chris Seiter:Okay. So our program definitely fits that mold. You eventually signed up for the program. I’m assuming you start reading about the no contact rule. You get started on that. And you mentioned- Aimee:That was immediate. Immediate, the no contact. Chris Seiter:So you did that inherently without really maybe even learning about it until afterwards. Aimee:Correct. Right. Chris Seiter:You mentioned, though, that you never broke the no contact, not one time. Aimee:I did not. Chris Seiter:What is your secret? How can people get this magical power? Aimee:I don’t think it’s a magical power. It’s really a will. It’s what do you want to accomplish? And it’s a goal. And if you want to accomplish a goal, you’ve got to do the steps to get to that goal. And I actually made a paper of 45 hearts on it, and I put it on the fridge, and every morning I colored in a heart, and it kept me… I could see the end. I could see, every day it was a colored in a heart. And I was reading through everything. I purchased the bundles. I did everything. But yeah, I think it was just that when you get a goal… The problem I see a lot in the program by reading through other people’s things, is that the focus is more on getting him back. And that should really just be an outcome. The focus I thought was on me and on improving myself so I wasn’t in this situation again. And if I got him back, that’s great. If I didn’t, you know what? There’s someone else out there. Chris Seiter:Yeah. It’s music to my ears. Every single day, my YouTube studio makeshift, we have a room in our house that’s just for YouTube, I go up there and I always feel like I’m repeating the same stuff every single day, just in different ways. And it’s always what you just said, which is like, and I think that’s such a really great way of putting it, the outcome of improving yourself and focusing on you, outgrowing your ex, should be that they want to come back. Aimee:Yes. Oh yes. Chris Seiter:Instead of focusing on it like, “Well, if I do this, they’ll come back.” Aimee:Right. Chris Seiter:And it almost never works out that way. And it’s usually the people I’m noticing when I interview people, the people who have that, who realize that, that concept of like, “Hey, this is the outcome of all this work,” that end up doing really, really well. They don’t always get their exes back, but a lot of them end up do. Aimee:Right. But it should be okay if they don’t, right? Chris Seiter:They don’t care if they get their exes back, it’s kind of like- Aimee:Right. Well I cared, but- Chris Seiter:I think you can care, but also accept if they don’t come- Aimee:I was okay. Chris Seiter:Right. You know it’s not going to be like this devastating thing that’s going to ruin your life forever. Aimee:Right. And I won’t tell you that I was even keeled emotionally the whole time, because I grew a lot emotionally through the program, a lot. Yes, I had plenty of days where I was crying and wanted to reach out. But my willpower was stronger than that, and because I wanted to achieve something. And I knew that if I did that, well, number one, why did I buy the program? And number two, I wasn’t going to achieve what I wanted to achieve, which was growing and changing and never ever again being any man’s doormat ever, ever, ever. Chris Seiter:Well, I also, I’m kind of curious, you mentioned you classify your ex as a fearful avoidant. Did you know about attachment styles at all before you came into the program? Aimee:I did not. One of the recommended books by Tyler was Attached, which I did read, and I did the test that’s in there for both me and my fiance. And he was textbook fearful avoidant. It was easy to see. But it changed everything in my perspective on how I approached him. It still does. It still does. Chris Seiter:Yeah. It’s really mind blowing, isn’t it? Aimee:It is. It’s awesome. Chris Seiter:When you actually just to kind of understand this is how they’re interpreting relationships and how it’s maybe different. I’m curious, how did you score on the test? Aimee:I am anxious. Chris Seiter:Okay. It’s pretty common. Aimee:Yeah, I’m anxious. But I will tell you that I’ve been working on changing that attachment style, and I’ve made leaps and bounds in doing that. I have really done well with handling my emotions, calming the Emotional Storm is a great book, handling my emotions and learning how to identify triggers, that kind of thing. So I’ve come a long way. Chris Seiter:Yeah. So 45 days no contact is not a short amount of time. Here’s my question for you. I know it was not all roses and candy every single day and perfect. I know there were days where it was really hard, and you’re probably going to the Facebook group and you’re saying like, “I want to break no contact so bad.” But after all the work was done, when you got out of no contact, did you feel like you had more confidence? Did you feel a little bit better about things? Aimee:100%, 100%. I was very confident. I’m not going to tell you I wasn’t nervous about the first reach out and would he respond or not? Because I had no idea, but I was equipped and ready for it if he didn’t, I knew what to do. I knew how to handle it, thanks to the program. Everything’s written out. If you really do the program, everything’s right…
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