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    Alternative Health

    The DUTCH Podcast

    Welcome to The DUTCH Podcast, your go-to source for all things hormones! Join host Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and a lineup of top functional health experts as we dive into the fascinating world of hormonal health and discover how the DUTCH Test can help. Whether you’re navigating any number of hormonal issues like dysmenorrhea, fertility, weight gain, or menopause or you’re dealing with testosterone issues, this podcast aims to break down complex topics into easily digestible insights. Tune in every Tuesday to hear from respected leaders in hormone research and get practical advice to help you manage your health – or the health of your patients – with confidence. Get ready for enlightening conversations that make hormone science approachable and actionable. 

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    Practical Approaches to Stress Management with Deb Matthew, MD Sep 19, 2023
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    Slow, sluggish mornings followed by sleepless nights should not be the norm—yet for many patients, this is their experience.

    In this episode of the DUTCH Podcast, host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and guest Deb Matthew, MD, talk about the profound impact that stress and cortisol have on overall wellness. They discuss how dysfunction precedes disease and why it’s crucial to nip HPA axis dysfunction in the bud before it causes long-term, chronic health problems.

    They share all about the nitty-gritty of the HPA axis, circadian rhythm, and how sex hormones, thyroid hormones, and adrenal hormones are all interconnected. Plus, Dr. Matthew reveals some of her go-to recommendations for stress management.
    Show Notes
    Dr. Matthew’s Stress Reduction Recommendations

    - Gratitude journaling

    - Breathing exercises

    - Walking outdoors

    - Self-care and relaxation

    Visit Dr. Matthew’s website https://drdeborahmatthew.com/.

    Become a DUTCH provider and profoundly change your patients’ lives through comprehensive hormone testing.

    Read the DUTCH Blog to learn more:

    Assessing Chronic Fatigue with the Cortisol Awakening Response

    Circadian Rhythm and Human Health

    You Need Free Cortisone and Metabolized Cortisol to Evaluate HPA Axis Health


    PCOS Patterns and Protocols with Brook Ahnemann, ND Aug 29, 2023
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    In this episode of Summer School, Dr. Smeaton talks all things PCOS with Brook Ahnemann, ND, a hormone expert and clinical educator at DUTCH. The PCOS diagnostic criteria seem to be a moving target; they’re constantly changing! Luckily, there are some DUTCH Test patterns you can look out for to support your patients with PCOS.


    Show Notes

    Download the Case Study from this episode.
    For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com

    Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.

    DUTCH Blog: Improving Treatment Plans for PCOS and Pregnancy



    Linking Organic Acids to Sex and Adrenal Hormones with Christina O'Brien, DC Aug 22, 2023
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    Nutritional markers are a great way to evaluate a patient’s nutritional status. Join us for a DUTCH Podcast Summer School episode all about the nutritional markers found on the organic acids (OATs) panel of the DUTCH Test.

    Host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, interviews our guest Christina O’Brien, DC, on all things OATs. They talk about where each OATs marker comes from and how they earned their place on the DUTCH Test. Jaclyn and Christina also chat about the potential nutrient deficiencies associated with the various OATs markers, and suggestions for repleting deficient nutrients.


    Show Notes

    For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com
    Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.

    DUTCH Blog: Organic Acid Biomarkers Reveal Clues to Patient Wellness

    DUTCH Webinar: New Organic Acids to Improve Patient Protocols


    Estrogen Metabolism and Breast Cancer Risk with Lindsey Szczepanski, NP Aug 15, 2023
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    Did you know that even when hormone levels may appear normal, inefficient estrogen metabolism could be a factor in symptoms related to estrogen dominance? Estrogen dominance is a risk factor for breast cancer, but the good news is it’s modifiable.

    Learn how to help patients improve their estrogen metabolism in today’s episode of Summer School featuring Lindsey Szczepanski, NP.


    Show Notes
    Download the Case Study from this episode.

    For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com

    Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.

    DUTCH Blog: Estrogen + Microbiome = Estrobolome



    Estrogen Dominance Signs & Symptoms with Rebecca Clemson, ND Aug 08, 2023
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    Our Summer School guest for this episode is Dr. Rebecca Clemson. She breaks down the topic of estrogen dominance and highlights some of its hallmark signs and symptoms. Host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and Dr. Clemson discuss the DUTCH Test results of a 37-year-old female who’s experiencing symptoms akin to PMDD and demonstrate how estrogen dominance could be at play.


    Show Notes

    Download the Case Study from this episode
    For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com

    Sign up to become a DUTCH provider today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.

    DUTCH Blog: Symptoms and Support of Low Progesterone


    Hormones and Intermittent Fasting with Kelsey Hojara, RD Aug 01, 2023
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    Intermittent fasting can be a valuable tool for providers caring for patients with PCOS.

    In this episode, Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, and Kelsey Hojara, RD, discuss the pros and pitfalls of intermittent fasting. They offer suggestions for when it may be beneficial for patients to implement fasting, and some cases for when to avoid it.

    If you’re thinking about recommending intermittent fasting but don’t know where to start, then this episode is for you!
    Show Notes

    • For more information about the DUTCH Test, visit our website! www.dutchtest.com
    • DUTCH Blog: Intermittent Fasting and Cycling Women
    • DUTCH Webinar: Fasting, Nutrition, and Hormones

    Are you interested in becoming a DUTCH provider?

    You can sign up to become one today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.

    Become a provider today to take your first step toward becoming a hormone expert.


    What is a Flat CAR Trying to Tell You? Jul 25, 2023
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    It’s time for more cortisol curve talk with guest Kelly Ruef, ND. Join DUTCH Podcast host Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, as she and Dr. Ruef get to the bottom of flat cortisol curves. They highlight two distinct patterns to look for on the DUTCH Test and dive into nutritional and botanical support considerations to help get these kinds of patients healthy again.

    There’s so much packed into this episode. You’ll be glad you listened!

    Show Notes

    • Download the case study referenced in this episode: DUTCH Report
    • Read the 2000 research study that links higher mortality rates for women with metastatic breast cancer to abnormal cortisol curves: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10861311/
    • DUTCH Blog: Measuring Free Cortisone and Metabolized Cortisol
    • DUTCH Blog: Assessing Chronic Fatigue with the Cortisol Awakening Response


    Are you interested in becoming a DUTCH provider?

    You can sign up to become one today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.

    Become a provider today to take your first step toward becoming a hormone expert.


    Understanding Cortisol Curves with Kaitlin Tyre, ND Jul 18, 2023
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    Stress can be real or perceived, the body doesn’t recognize the difference! That’s why it’s so important to manage stress and evaluate cortisol when your patients present with chronic stress symptoms.

    On this episode of DUTCH Summer School, we’re joined by Kaitlin Tyre, ND, a clinical educator here at DUTCH for some talk on cortisol curves. She and Jaclyn break down what cortisol curve patterns to look for in each DUTCH report and talk about stress management techniques that can help patients improve their stress response.


    Show Notes

    • Download the case study from this episode: DUTCH Report
    • Learn more about coritsol and how sleep effects the diurnal rhythm, register for our July webinar with Dr. Allison Smith: DUTCH Monthly Webinars - DUTCH Test
    • DUTCH Blog: Measuring Free Cortisone and Metabolized Cortisol
    • DUTCH Blog: Assessing Chronic Fatigue with the Cortisol Awakening Response
    • Learn more about sleep hygiene

    Are you interested in becoming a DUTCH provider?

    You can sign up to become one today at www.dutchtest.com/providers. DUTCH providers have exclusive access to one-on-one consultations with DUTCH clinical educators, group mentorship sessions, and free educational resources like the DUTCH Interpretive Guide and the Mastering Functional Hormone Testing course.

    Become a provider today to take your first step toward becoming a hormone expert.



    Bonus Episode - The "Unexpected" Power of Functional Medicine with Dr. Jill Carnahan, MD May 09, 2023
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    Jill Carnahan, MD, joins Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton to discuss the transformational change functional medicine can bring to patients, and they explore the new book, "Unexpected: Finding Resilience Through Functional Medicine, Science, and Faith".
    If you're attending American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine 2023 Spring Congress, join DUTCH and Dr. Carnahan for a meet and greet at our booth and to receive a free signed copy of her book.
    About our Speaker:
    Dr. Jill Carnahan is dually board certified in Family Medicine for 10 years and in Integrative Holistic Medicine. She is the founder and Medical Director of Flatiron Functional Medicine, a widely sought-after practice with a broad range of clinical services including functional medical consulting, chiropractic therapy, physical therapy, naturopathic medicine, acupuncture, and therapeutic massage.
    Dr. Carnahan's Website: Dr. Jill Carnahan Flatiron Functional Medicine - Jill Carnahan, MD
    Learn about her new book: Unexpected - Dr. Jill Unexpected (readunexpected.com)


    New Research on the Validity of Urine Testing for HRT Mar 07, 2023
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    It’s time to wrap up season two of the DUTCH Podcast. As season two comes to a close, Dr. Jaclyn Smeaton, ND, talks with DUTCH founder, Mark Newman, MS, about new peer-reviewed research and the functional hormone testing model as a whole. They dive into the strengths of the DUTCH Test, what sets DUTCH apart from competitors, and explore the methodology that makes DUTCH a leader in the integrative medicine world.

    This season is packed with great insights from leaders in the functional medicine community. Listen now to hear our final season two episode!
    Sections and Timestamps

    • 00:00Intro
    • 06:57Recent journal publication
    • 24:08DUTCH stays focused on its methodology
    • 30:25DUTCH keeps OATs markers small
    • 44:05Comparing DUTCH to other labs
    • 50:00Conclusion


    Show Notes

    Recent Peer-Review
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36414155/
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0039128X22000769

    “Not Withing Spitting Distance” Article
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36527751/

    DUTCH Research
    https://dutchtest.com/research/

    Check Out Other DUTCH Podcast Episodes
    https://dutchtest.com/podcast/


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