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    The Exit Five Podcast

    The #1 resource for B2B marketing professionals. Each week, hosts Dave Gerhardt and Dasha Shakov sit down with B2B marketers to break down everything from strategy and leadership to the channels and tactics that drive growth, plus what it takes to build a career in marketing. You’ll find real ideas you can put to work right away, and the gut check and inspiration to keep getting better at your job.

    Get our newsletter and learn more about our community at exitfive . com

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    #137: Inside Exit Five | Goldenhour Recap, Listener Questions, and The Future of E5 May 02, 2024
    Show notes

    Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover

    • How to start building your portfolio as a new agency owner
    • What Sales can do to become a partner to Marketing (and vice versa)
    • Whether podcasts are for brand awareness and lead nurturing
    • Webinars and whether they need to be live or not
    • The future of Exit Five

    PS. We’d love to get your questions and feature you on this podcast. Have a hot topic, a burning question, or just want to say hi? Send us a voicenote at hi@exitfive.com, and we will feature you on the show. Emails are fine too, but a voice note might get you on the pod :)

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Intro
    • (01:20) - - Listener Question
    • (03:49) - - How To Get Your First 1 or 2 Clients As An Agency Owner
    • (08:28) - - How Sales Can Build a Better Relationship with Marketing
    • (10:16) - - What Sales Usually Gets Wrong
    • (16:14) - - Emphasizing Live Attendance in Webinars
    • (18:08) - - Why Live Webinars are Better
    • (19:20) - - Goldenhour
    • (21:50) - - The Future of Exit Five

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #136: AI | How To Use AI In B2B Marketing (with Jessica Hreha) Apr 29, 2024
    Show notes

    Dave is joined by Jessica Hreha. Jessica is the Head of Marketing AI Strategy & Transformation at Jasper. Previously, she was the Head of Global Integrated Campaigns & Content Strategy and Founder of VMware Marketing AI Council at VMware. They discuss everything AI in B2B Marketing, such as

    • How to use AI to ideate and refine your creation process
    • Use cases for AI beyond copywriting
    • Why you need dedicated in-house AI champions
    • What Jasper is doing to improve customer engagement with AI


    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - AI Guidelines and Ethical Adoption
    • (05:19) - - Confronting Resistance to AI in Content Creation
    • (07:37) - - Time and productivity savings
    • (11:08) - - Content Production 101: Outlining and Customization
    • (16:13) - - Unlocking Decision-Making Potential with AI
    • (18:30) - - Measuring Productivity and Savings
    • (24:05) - - Transitioning Careers: From Content Marketing to AI Program Direction
    • (27:16) - - Challenges of Implementing AI in Organizations
    • (30:10) - - Standardizing and structuring delivery plans
    • (33:43) - - Broadening the Role of AI in Marketing Operations
    • (35:54) - - Enhancing Marketing Efficiency Through AI
    • (38:23) - - Exploring AI's Role in Negotiation
    • (41:51) - - Closing Remarks and Invitation for Future Collaboration

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #135: Marketing Leadership | Traits of a High Performing CMO (with Dave Kellogg) Apr 25, 2024
    Show notes

    Dave Kellogg is a former CEO and CMO with operational experience across companies from $0 to $1B+. He served as GM/SVP of Service Cloud for Salesforce, CEO of MarkLogic, and SVP of Marketing at SAP / Business Objects. Today, he is principal at Dave Kellogg Consulting, EIR at Balderton Capital, and author of the popular SaaS blog Kellblog (www.kellblog.com). He has also served as an independent director across 10 startup boards and has a unique perspective on what top-performing SaaS companies do and what role the CMO should play.

    We talk about:

    - Being a great partner to sales and why it is marketing’s job to make sales easier
    - Mastering the art of becoming the dispassionate analyst, presenting the facts
    - Being a partner to the CEO
    - Dave's thoughts on the importance of benchmarks, his POV on category creation, lead gen vs. demand gen, ChatGPT, and more.

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - Introduction
    • (05:00) - Dave Kellogg's Journey
    • (10:00) - Insights on Blogging and Career
    • (15:00) - What Makes a Great CMO
    • (20:00) - Aligning Sales and Marketing
    • (25:00) - Leveraging Data and Market Research
    • (30:00) - The Role of Brand and Category Creation
    • (35:00) - The Future of AI in Marketing
    • (40:00) - Understanding SaaS Metrics
    • (45:00) - Closing Remarks

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #134: Community | How This B2B Brand is Building Community with (Daniel Cmejla) Apr 22, 2024
    Show notes

    Dave is joined by Daniel Cmejla, VP of Community at Apollo.io. Before Apollo, Daniel was the VP of Brand and Community at Chili Piper. In this episode, they discuss

    • How to use LinkedIn to build community
    • The difference between building community vs. building ‘a’ community
    • Using internal team members LinkedIn profiles to lift the companies brand
    • Community building and how to measure the impact on the bottom line

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #133: Inside Exit Five | How Edgy Can B2B Social Content Be? Advice For First-Time Marketing Leaders and Product Launches Apr 18, 2024
    Show notes

    Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover

    • How 'edgy' B2B brands can get with their social media pages (and if they should)
    • Advice for first-time marketing leaders
    • Dave's advice for product launches
    • Why marketing fundamentals are key to your marketing strategy

    PS. We’d love to get your questions and feature you on this podcast. Have a hot topic, a burning question, or just want to say hi? Send us a voicenote at hi@exitfive.com, and we will feature you on the show. Emails are fine too, but a voice note might get you on the pod :)

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - How Edgy Can B2B Social Media Be?
    • (06:35) - - Advice for First-Time Marketing Leaders
    • (08:29) - - Focusing on Company Goals One Quarter at a Time
    • (09:34) - - Impactful Goals and Building Momentum
    • (12:36) - - Driving Results Through Strategic Positioning and Creative Initiatives
    • (16:44) - - Positioning Your Product and Company
    • (19:51) - - Leveraging Strategic Narratives for Success
    • (20:50) - - Product Launches

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #132: Growth | B2B Website Conversion Tactics with Talia Wolf Apr 15, 2024
    Show notes

    Dave is joined by Talia Wolf, CEO and Founder of Getuplift. Talia was recently listed as one of the most influential experts in conversion optimization. She’s trained companies all over the world and has taught on stages such as Google, MozCon, CTAconf, Search Love, and many more.

    They discuss things like

    • Selling with emotional benefits over feature lists
    • How to use the stages of awareness to lead customers through the conversion funnel
    • How to do research that informs your conversion strategy
    • Using AI to create content that'll resonate with website visitors

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - The Pitfalls of Traditional Agencies
    • (06:31) - - Building Successful Careers
    • (10:09) - - The Importance of Understanding Emotion in Digital Conversion Optimization
    • (14:45) - - The Science Behind Emotions
    • (18:51) - - Messaging tips
    • (22:06) - - Uncovering Emotions through Customer Interviews and Surveys
    • (24:50) - - Research and Specific Questions in Optimization
    • (28:24) - - The Importance of User Awareness in Conversion
    • (33:16) - - Guiding the Buyer's Journey: Crafting Purposeful Homepages for Multi-Stage Awareness
    • (37:15) - - Convincing Customers in 3 Seconds
    • (39:02) - - Navigation and Client Segmentation
    • (43:36) - - Efficiency and Inspiration with ChatGPT
    • (44:55) - - The Core of Conversion Journeys

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #131: Inside Exit Five | LinkedIn Personal Page vs. Company Page, Marketing Generalist vs. Specialist Apr 11, 2024
    Show notes

    In this new regular segment of the podcast, Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They cover

    • Whether you should focus on the company or personal LinkedIn pages
    • What the CEO can do to grow their LinkedIn profile
    • When it's acceptable to be a marketing generalist, and when you should specialize
    • Why money matters in relation to career happiness

    PS. We’d love to get your questions and feature you on this podcast. Have a hot topic, a burning question, or just want to say hi? Send us a voicenote at hi@exitfive.com, and we will feature you on the show. Emails are fine too, but a voice note might get you on the pod :)

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Intro
    • (01:32) - - Company or Personal LinkedIn page
    • (05:12) - - How to Maximize Your Personal Brand on LinkedIn
    • (08:10) - - CEO Interviews for LinkedIn Posts
    • (14:39) - - Writing Frequency Recommendations
    • (17:17) - - Marketing Generalism vs. Specialism
    • (20:58) - - Balancing Recognition and Compensation in the Workplace
    • (25:32) - - Empowering Employees: Advocating for Fair Compensation.
    • (30:34) - - Dealing with Workplace Frustrations and The Bigger Picture

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #130: Strategy | How to Measure Your B2B Marketing Efforts (With Pranav Piyush, CEO and Co-Founder of Paramark) Apr 08, 2024
    Show notes

    Dave is joined by Pranav Piyush, CEO and Co-Founder of Paramark. With 15 years of growth and marketing experience at companies like PayPal, Dropbox, Adobe, and BILL, Pranav is convinced that CMOs deserve better measurement solutions. That’s why he started Paramark, a tool to help Marketing leaders become more confident about how to invest their budget for maximum returns across all types of marketing—brand and performance, online and offline, paid and owned.

    They discuss things like

    • The challenges of marketing measurement
    • Short-term vs. long-term investments
    • UTM tags
    • How to understand the correlation between each marketing channel and pipeline
    • Measurement for Non-Direct Response Initiatives

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Intro to Pranav and Paramark
    • (06:11) - - Marketing Measurement Challenges
    • (12:00) - - Clicks and UTMs
    • (15:58) - - How to think about Strategic Metrics
    • (19:11) - - Being Data-Driven in your approach to growth
    • (21:59) - - How to decipher marketing's impact
    • (23:52) - - Experimentation and insights
    • (30:13) - - Strategic forecasting
    • (32:13) - - Short-Term Gains vs. Long-Term Investments
    • (37:16) - - Measurement for Non-Direct Response Initiatives
    • (40:24) - - Understanding the Relationship Between Marketing and Sales
    • (42:55) - - Understanding the Impact of Super Bowl Ads
    • (48:03) - - Exploring the Impact of Temu's Super Bowl Ad

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

    • They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.
    • Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.

    Visit hatch.fm to learn more


    #129: Inside Exit Five | Do Nurture Sequences Work? How to Become a Better Copywriter and Why Brand Matters in B2B Apr 04, 2024
    Show notes

    We are debuting a new regular segment of the podcast called “Inside Exit Five.” We will dive into some of the popular topics and share lessons and learnings from inside the Exit Five community.

    Dave is joined by Matt Carnevale (Marketing Manager at Exit Five), and they cover

    • Do nurture sequences still work in B2B?
    • Best books, resources, and strategies to become a better copywriter
    • How to become the go-to resource for your customers
    • Why brand matters in B2B

    PS. We’d love to get your questions and feature you on this podcast. Have a hot topic, a burning question, or just want to say hi? Send us a voicenote at hi@exitfive.com and we will feature you on the show. Emails are fine too, but a voice note might get you on the pod :)

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Introduction to this new podcast format
    • (02:00) - - Nurture sequences: do they work?
    • (07:20) - - Mastering Copywriting: Practical Tips and Techniques
    • (11:50) - - Elevating B2B Branding: The Power of Reputation
    • (16:33) - - Building B2B Brand Equity: Beyond Identity to Reputation
    • (18:46) - - Becoming the Trusted Authority: Crafting Your Strategic Narrative

    Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletter

    Learn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/


    ***


    Brought to you by:

    Zoom Webinars & Events – The virtual event platform built to help B2B marketers run webinars that actually drive pipeline, with branded registration pages, live engagement features, and built-in tools to repurpose sessions into clips and content. Learn more at zoom.com/exitfive.

    Convertiv - A B2B marketing agency that helps enterprise teams build an AI-powered go-to-market strategy, specializing in AEO. Podcast listeners get a free AI search review showing how you stack up against competitors. Learn more at convertiv.com/exitfive.

    Optimizely - the AI platform for marketers. Build your own AI agents or pull from a directory of 50+ pre-built ones for marketing use cases. Their new Virtual Teammates can join meetings, complete tasks, support campaigns, and keep your website optimized. Learn more at optimizely.com/exitfive.

    Compound Growth Marketing- A full-funnel demand gen agency helping high-growth cybersecurity and enterprise software companies show up earlier in the buying journey, combining AEO, modern paid advertising, and a dedicated go-to-market engineering team. Podcast listeners get two free media planning sessions to find out what channels are driving the best ROI. Learn more at compoundgrowthmarketing.com/exitfive.

    Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.

    ***


    Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.

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    #128: Marketing Leadership | The Role of CMO, Taking a New Job, Making Changes in the Marketing Org (with Peter Mahoney, CMO, GoTo) Apr 01, 2024
    Show notes

    Dave is joined by Peter Mahoney, CMO of GoTo. Prior to that, he was the CMO at Nuance Communications and later founded Plannuh, which was acquired by Planful.

    Peter is the author of The Next CMO: A Guide to Operational Marketing Excellence, a book that teaches you how to form marketing goals, create a strategy, build a plan, craft impactful campaigns, optimize budgetary spending, and measure true ROI.

    In this episode, they discuss:

    • Why Peter got back into the game as CMO after being CEO at Plannuh
    • How he landed his role at GoTo
    • What his strategy has been coming into a new company as CMO (and a company that has been around for a while)
    • How do you make changes in a marketing org?
    • What does his team look like at GoTo? What are they focused on?

    Peter is a master at marketing strategy and execution, and this episode will teach you a lot of that. Enjoy.

    Timestamps

    • (00:00) - - Intro & balancing business and personal aspirations
    • (08:26) - - Journey to being a CMO
    • (13:58) - - Navigating company restructuring
    • (15:16) - - Streamlining marketing operations
    • (20:10) - - Expectations for rapid change in marketing leadership
    • (21:46) - - The importance of role transition
    • (28:23) - - Navigating layoffs and leadership
    • (31:56) - - Past mistakes in hiring practices
    • (32:48) - - Embracing diversity for better problem-solving
    • (37:48) - - Strategy: Navigating resources, blind spots, and team dynamics
    • (41:10) - - How to balance strategy and execution
    • (44:43) - - How to build long-term vision and short-term plans in marketing
    • (46:13) - - Brand strategy

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