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    She Said / She Said

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    Making the most of your time, even under the most challenging circumstances: Laura Vanderkam, author & time management expert (Episode 93) Mar 27, 2020
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    [Watch Episode 93 here!]

    It’s easy to feel overwhelmed right now. Uncertainty about COVID-19 and how long we may be engaged in protective social distancing measures, not to mention heart-breaking stories of those who have lost loved ones, means our collective anxiety level is at an all time high.

    While everyone’s circumstances are different, one thing is for sure, if we are lucky enough to be able to work from home, there are challenges associated with adapting our work life into our home life. That is doubly true when kids are involved!

    That’s why time management and productivity expert Laura Vanderkam is such a terrific guest to help us sort through some of these challenges.

    Laura is the author of seven books — five on time management. I featured her book “Off the Clock” in last week’s She Said/She Said Weekly Newsletter (Please be sure to sign up for the newsletter! We include some great content to complement each week’s episode.) Laura also hosts two podcasts. My favorite is “Before Breakfast” a 5-10 minute productivity tip to start your day. Laura’s TED talk “How to gain control of your free time” has been viewed more than 8 million times. She’s a contributor to the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, and other publications, as well as provides time management consulting to a range of clients. If that were not enough, she’s also the mother of five children ranging in age from 3-months to 12 years.

    One of the aspects I love the most about my conversation with Laura is her focus on making time meaningful and positive even under the current circumstances. I think you’ll love her great advice and perspective!

    Let me know what you think about this, or any of our episodes, as well as topics you would like to hear more about. I love getting your feedback and messages! Please keep them coming!

    Big thanks to Laura for Zoom-casting with me, and to our producer Adam Belmar for his production assistance!

    Be safe and be well! xo

    The post Making the most of your time, even under the most challenging circumstances: Laura Vanderkam, author & time management expert (Episode 93) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Zoomcast with Dr. Lucy McBride on COVID-19 and strategies for combatting anxiety during uncertain times (Episode 92) Mar 23, 2020
    Show notes

    My guest today is my friend and my personal physician — the brilliant Dr. Lucy McBride. Dr. McBride is a Harvard and Johns Hopkins University trained doctor of internal medicine whose practice focuses on the treatment of the whole person — Something she refers to as the four corners of health. Dr. McBride joined me on She Said/She Said Podcast back in Episode 25 – if you download that episode you’ll hear more about her personal story and her philosophy for treating patients than we’ll get to today. Suffice it to say she is amazing!

    Right now, like so many health care providers Dr. McBride is on the front lines fighting COVID-19 or coronavirus. She recently launched a terrific website: https://www.lucymcbride.com/ to help provide honest, straightforward answers to questions about this virus.

    Dr. McBride joined me via Zoom for our first She Said/She Said “Zoomcast” to talk about her experience with COVID-19. We also talk about mental health in the context of social isolation and distancing measures.

    So many of you were kind enough to send me thoughts, concerns, and questions via social media in advance of this conversation. We tackle as many of those as we could.

    Please note: We recorded this episode on Sunday, March 22, 2020, at 6p.m. Because information is developing and changing rapidly, please be sure to refer to other sources include Dr. McBride’s updates for the latest on COVID-19.

    The post Zoomcast with Dr. Lucy McBride on COVID-19 and strategies for combatting anxiety during uncertain times (Episode 92) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Preparation, service, and respect: building blocks for a lifetime of leadership: The Honorable Elaine Chao (Episode 91) Mar 16, 2020
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    I recorded Episode 91 with U.S. Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao just before social distancing recommendations went into effect to halt the spread of coronavirus. My prayers go out to everyone impacted by this terrible virus. I hope you are safely at home in an effort to support health care workers on the frontlines of this battle. I also hope you will enjoy the conversation that follows as a brief, but inspiring distraction during a stressful time.

    Secretary Chao and I don’t talk about coronavirus. Instead, we engage in a wide-ranging conversation about her life, her journey, and how adversity coupled with a positive mindset laid the groundwork for tremendous accomplishment. She was only eight-years-old when she set sail with her pregnant mother and younger sister on a ship bound for America. She didn’t speak the language, wasn’t familiar with the culture, and had no idea what would be in store for herself and her family.

    Secretary Chao is modest about her significant and long list of accomplishments — the first woman of Asian descent to be confirmed to a President’s cabinet; service in four Presidential Administrations, and cabinet positions in two of them; President of the United Way and Director of the Peace Corps. For her, it isn’t accomplishment for accomplishment sake, but rather doing her best out of respect for her family and the country that has given her so much. That respect is largely what inspired her work in public service. In our conversation, Secretary Chao reflects on what she’s learned and shares tremendous insight and advice into how she prepares for and approaches leadership.

    My tremendous thanks to Secretary Chao for her candor, and for hosting us at the Department of Transportation. And, a big thank you to Adam Belmar and EFB Studio for the production assistance on this episode. If you are enjoying She Said/She Said Podcast, please send your feedback. I would love to hear from you! Use the contact link on the website or email me directly at Laura@LauraCoxKaplan.net

    Given concerns about coronavirus, we’ll be shifting to remote recordings for the next few weeks. But know that my focus remains bringing you the most interesting, insightful, and inspiring perspectives from a broad array of incredible women who are leading with positivity and who are working to make their communities and the world a better place.

    Stay safe!

    The post Preparation, service, and respect: building blocks for a lifetime of leadership: The Honorable Elaine Chao (Episode 91) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    “It’s not what you say…it’s what they hear” – Lee Carter (Episode 90) Mar 09, 2020
    Show notes

    Lee Carter has loved language for as long as she can remember. When she realized there was a career in language strategy, it changed her life. In Episode 90, Lee, who is the president of language strategy firm Maslansky and Partners and a weekly panelist on Fox Business’ Mornings with Maria [Bartiromo], says your message won’t be as impactful or persuasive without an understanding of who you are trying to reach and what they believe. She refers to this as “active empathy” and it’s embedded in the notion that “it’s not what you say, it’s what they hear,” Maslansky and Partners’ mantra. Given divisions in the country, that underlying message has never been more critical.

    Lee’s book “Persuasion: Convincing Others When Facts Don’t Seem to Matter,” hits at the heart of this concept. While her original aim was a book for corporate clients, she found writing “Persuasion” elicited a more personal response. The lessons and strategies largely apply to individuals and organizations alike. I especially loved her focus on establishing a clear “vision” and the importance of seeing — really seeing — where you are trying to go and what it will look like when you get there. Regardless of your goals, her perspective on setting them, making them bold (“Look Boldly Beyond Your Limits”), getting feedback (and really listening to it), is helpful and constructive. I think you’ll also find her views on how and why to listen to your critics (including the “haters”) compelling.

    The post “It’s not what you say…it’s what they hear” – Lee Carter (Episode 90) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    What you communicate without saying a word: Body language & behavioral science expert Janine Driver (Episode 89) Mar 03, 2020
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    Ever think about how your body language may impact how others see you? Or how body language, our emotions, and our reactions can be telltale signs of past trauma and pain?

    This week, I’m talking to Janine Driver, a former federal law enforcement investigator who spent 16 years at the Department of Justice training agents at the FBI, CIA and ATF. Her deep understanding of body language has enabled her to outsmart gun runners and murders, and to help people like you and me became more aware of behaviors that may send the wrong message or convey inconsistencies.

    Janine’s own childhood trauma inspired her work in this field, and has informed a lifelong journey of learning to understand why we often react the way we do, and how to recognize and recalibrate those reactions. Her work goes well beyond body language and actually has inspired her to understand on a deeper emotional level what may drive our body language and reactions in the first place. Fear and anger are big ones, and Janine talks very candidly about the impact those emotions have had on her life, and how she has learned to cope with them.

    She’s taken everything she’s learned about body language and behavioral science and created the Body Language Institute, and is the author of two best-selling books “You Can’t Lie to Me” and “You Say More Than You Think”.

    Both books are available via the links, and if you order from She Said/She Said via Amazon, we’ll get a small kick back with no additional charge to you. I will include a link to a bonus chapter in this week’s She Said/She Said Newsletter. Sign up via the link on the website — you won’t want to miss it!

    I think you’ll be truly inspired by Janine’s passion, her candor, and her willingness to share such vulnerability with us. And, you’ll pick up a few important tips on handshakes, shoulder shrugs, and crossed arms in the process!

    Illustrating a version of “the steeple”

    The handshake

    posing to encourage open discussion

    The post What you communicate without saying a word: Body language & behavioral science expert Janine Driver (Episode 89) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Being true to yourself and learning to move on: Elise Labott, award-winning journalist & foreign affairs correspondent (Episode 88) Feb 24, 2020
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    After almost 20 years as the foreign affairs correspondent at CNN, Elise Labott decided to leave the cable network. The decision wasn’t easy and in many ways is still something she is coming to terms with. Even when we know what we must do — or when we recognize that we have evolved past a job or position, mourning the loss of what once was can be tough. It requires us to stretch, realign our priorities, reflect, and pursue possibilities that we might not otherwise have considered. It also requires that we wrestle with identity which can become so wrapped up in things outside of ourselves: what we do for a living; whose mother, wife, or sister we are; etc…

    Elise’s story, her journey, and the topics we wrestle with in this conversation will resonate with so many of you listening. Her advice and perspective is often raw, but instructive and this conversation is an important reminder of the power that comes from sharing our experiences openly, even when it’s painful. Elise’s candor and the impact her story can have on others is a gift.

    A big thanks to EFB for hosting She Said/She Said, and Adam Belmar for his production assistance.

    If you are enjoying She Said/She Said, we would love to hear from you. Contact us on the website www.SheSaidSheSaidPodcast.com or email me: Laura@lauracoxkaplan.net

    The post Being true to yourself and learning to move on: Elise Labott, award-winning journalist & foreign affairs correspondent (Episode 88) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    The power of social capital: Lynn Mento, the first women to head Friends of the National Zoo (Episode 87) Feb 17, 2020
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    Lynn Mento is the first woman to lead the 60-year old Friends of the National Zoo in Washington, DC. Each year, she and her team welcome some 2 million visitors through the zoo’s gates. While most come to be wowed and delighted by amazing creatures, Lynn’s primary goal is to educate while also entertaining, something she refers to as “the cheese on the broccoli.” Under her leadership, the National Zoo is also collaborating extensively on preservation and conservation efforts that include developing and sharing research about where viruses — like the coronavirus — emanate and what individuals can do to prevent them.

    Armed with tremendous experience over a 30-year career in advertising, marketing and membership campaigns prior to joining the Zoo, Lynn was incredibly well-equipped for certain aspects of her role, but she knew next to nothing about zoology or leading and collaborating with an army of dedicated conservationists, veterinarians, staff, and volunteers. She talks about the importance of playing to your strengths, and shares advice for getting buy-in from a new team when you take on a new role. Lynn also shares powerful lessons for embracing a new and unplanned career pivot, as well as why understanding and utilizing “social capital” has been essential in her success.

    The post The power of social capital: Lynn Mento, the first women to head Friends of the National Zoo (Episode 87) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Launching your comeback with Ginny Flynn Brzezinski, author “Comeback Careers” (Episode 86) Feb 10, 2020
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    Ginny Flynn Brzenski is the co-author of a terrific book called “Comeback Careers: Rethink, Refresh, Reinvent Your Success at 40, 50, and beyond.” Like so many women, Ginny took a career break and detour to be more present for her kids after having worked in politics on Capitol Hill. But when she got ready to relaunch herself into more substantial work after that break, she found that tricky.

    Given how common career breaks and detours are for women, there still aren’t as many great resources to support us as we pivot — including those shifts that are forced upon you with layoffs, downsizing, getting fired.

    Ginny’s book taps into and addresses so many topics related to women at mid-career or second careers, or coming back to work after an extended break.

    Ginny’s sister-in-law is Morning Joe’s Mika Brzenski. Mika is also the author and creator of Know Your Value. But it was Ginny who inspired the idea of really digging into Comeback Careers.

    One caveat — if you’re thinking “ok I’m in my 20s or 30s … this conversation is not relevant for me.” But it is! Here’s why: It’s really important for younger women be aware of and plan for career junctures — especially those that you won’t necessarily know are coming. Some can be forced upon you. Others, like mine, can be more about falling out of love with what had once been your dream job and yearning to challenge myself more to find new ways to have an impact.

    Even when you are making the choice to leave a job there can be distinct challenges associated with that. So, if you’re on the younger, please stay with us. I really do think you’ll find this conversation really valuable.

    I should also mention — I’m so grateful that Ginny and Mika included my own career transition story in “Comeback Careers” pg. 59-60. My story, of course, led to the creation of this podcast!

    If you’re planning to buy this terrific book (and I hope that you will!), please consider purchasing via our link. It helps support She Said/She Said Podcast without no additional cost to you! xo

    Comeback Careers: Rethink, Refresh, Reinvent Your Success — at 40, 50, and Beyond

    Big thanks to EFB for hosting us in their terrific Capitol Hill studio!

    The post Launching your comeback with Ginny Flynn Brzezinski, author “Comeback Careers” (Episode 86) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    The power of forgiveness: Siobhan Howard Davenport, Executive Director, Crittenton Services (Episode 85) Feb 04, 2020
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    What inspires us to make a difference is deeply personal and often directly linked to our experiences. Something resonates within and drives us to use what we’ve learned to help others. Siobhan Howard Davenport embodies this mindset and spirit. She is the Executive Director of Crittenton Services where she helps create opportunities for vulnerable girls in the Washington DC area. Like many of the girls in her program, Siobhan was raised by a guardian – her grandmother. She understands the personal and emotional challenges that many of these girls face, and she understands the impact that can have on a young girl’s confidence. Her personal story — particularly how she learned to embrace vulnerability and find forgiveness for her father — will move and inspire you.

    Siobhan is working to make sure others have the same opportunities that she did by placing intense focus on education, and on helping girls learn important life skills. The Crittenton track record is impressive with a 100 percent graduation rate for girls that participate in the program year over year. Those girls then go on to secondary programs, but they also return to Crittenton to support the next generation as mentors and role models.

    The post The power of forgiveness: Siobhan Howard Davenport, Executive Director, Crittenton Services (Episode 85) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Advice for living your healthiest & most joyful life! Joy Bauer, nutrition expert, Today Show contributor – Episode 84 Jan 28, 2020
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    Joy Bauer will tell you “Every failure is the beginning of a wonderful success.” It’s a lesson she learned from her father, but it applies whether we’re talking recipes, life goals, or Joy’s own career. For the past 14 years, Joy has appeared weekly on NBC’s Today Show sharing her tremendous knowledge of nutrition and the science underpinning it, as well as the latest research to help us live our healthiest and best lives. But it’s her tremendous vitality, positive energy, and practical, accessible tips that set her apart. It’s what I absolutely loved about my conversation with her! I think you will too!

    Here are a few highlights:

    Joy and I talk about what inspired her love of nutrition after heading off to college on a gymnastics scholarship. That first nutrition course in pre-med changed her life and her trajectory forever.

    We also talk about how she got her big break in media, and what the impact of her work with others — especially those who have made significant and positive life changes — has meant to her. She explains her “90/10 philosophy,” and gives us her perspective on diet trends. Joy also demystifies “good fat v. bad fat” – and how much “good fat” one really needs.

    We also talk about confidence and what fuels her’s.

    There is so much terrific information in this episode, but none more so than Joy’s advice for staying on track with your goals. It’s great advice that works whether you’re trying to lose a few lbs, or are contemplating a much bolder life change.

    My conversation with Joy runs a bit longer than most of my episodes, but I think you’ll enjoy it! And, if you are a reluctant (but willing) cook, like me, pull out your slow cooker or crockpot and cook along with us.

    Joy’s latest book “Joy Bauer’s Super Food: 150 Recipes for Eternal Youth” — her 15th — comes out in April 2020. You can pre-order here. In the meantime, be sure to check out JoyBauer.com where she posts tips and terrific recipes, as well as other updates. You can also use the link to sign up for her newsletter.

    I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did! Please be sure to let me know what you think!

    A couple of my favorite Joy recipes: Kale Pesto with Pasta (I like mine with zucchini noodles!) and Chocolate Banana “Ice Cream” (no sugar, no milk!)

    The post Advice for living your healthiest & most joyful life! Joy Bauer, nutrition expert, Today Show contributor – Episode 84 appeared first on She Said / She Said.


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