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    Role models powered by perseverance and determination: author Mary Morgan Ketchel with U.S. Sen. Marsha Blackburn (Episode 113) Jul 27, 2020
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    Author Mary Morgan Blackburn Ketchel had a ringside seat to see the first female U.S. Senator, and the first female U.S. Representative elected from her home state of Tennessee. To make the experience all the more inspiring, those trailblazing accomplishments were made by her mom: U.S. Sen. Marsha Blackburn.

    Seeing women in positions of power has an unquestionable impact not only on children, but adults as well. And that was certainly true for Mary Morgan. Her mother’s story is a great example of not only professional accomplishment, but of personal and professional reinvention. She waited to seek elected office until her children were older, a reminder of the importance of setting goals, prioritizing them, and being willing to jump when the opportunity presents itself.

    Both women, who share a passion for history and for civic engagement, join me in Episode 113 to talk about their latest collaboration, a children’s book written by Mary Morgan entitled “Camilla Can Vote.” The book commemorates and celebrates the 100th anniversary (coming up on August 18, 2020) of women getting the right to vote with the ratification of the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

    In this episode, we talk about:

    • The power of role models;
    • The 72 year struggle of suffragists and the lessons to be learned about perseverance and determination;
    • The power of teamwork, collaboration, and investing in causes that are bigger than yourself;
    • Career pivots and reinvention;
    • A quick history lesson on the role the State of Tennessee played in the final ratification of the 19th Amendment; and
    • more!

    You can find “Camilla Can Vote” here. It’s only the beginning for Camilla!

    The post Role models powered by perseverance and determination: author Mary Morgan Ketchel with U.S. Sen. Marsha Blackburn (Episode 113) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    How to kick ass like a cowgirl and other secrets of success: entrepreneur, author & artist Gay Gaddis (Episode 112) Jul 21, 2020
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    Gay Gaddis is the trailblazing founder of Austin, Texas-based T3, an advertising and marketing firm which she grew to be one of the largest independent agencies in the country–and one of only a few owned by women. It might surprise you to know that this small town girl from Liberty, Texas went to college on a fine arts scholarship, and only found her way into business when she needed to earn a living.

    Gay’s story of how she started T3 with $16k she had from cashing in an IRA is the stuff of legend. It’s also testament to a philosophy she refers to as “cowgirl power” which we discuss in detail in Episode 112. Gay’s practical, thoughtful approach has been a driving force in helping her take risks, lead, make decisions, and build strong, diverse teams. She recently added author to her incredible resume when she memorialized her philosophy to help others with the publication of “Cowgirl Power: How to kick ass in business and in life.” It’s a fantastic add to your summer reading list!

    In this episode, Gay and I talk not only about cowgirl power — what it is, and how to get it, but how it relates to resilience, reinvention, career and personal evolution, confidence, competence, and keeping self doubt at bay. We also talk about a particularly important tool Gay refers to as a “Treasure Map” which she recommends for planning your life goals. Hers is a practical, innovative take on a life timeline to help you think about and plan for all the important dimensions and priorities in life. As many of us already know, you can have it all, but it requires careful and thoughtful prioritization. For Gay, the “Treasure Map” exercise helped her stay on track (and keep her family on track) as she balanced and prioritized motherhood — she’s the mom of three, along with the demands of being a very successful, sought after CEO.

    We also talk about Gay’s most recent reinvention following the sale of T3. She’s launched a virtual leadership series called “Eating Risk for Breakfast,” where she shares her knowledge and experience to help others succeed, and she’s working as an artist painting sunsets from her ranch in the Texas Hill Country. Texas Monthly Magazine recently named Gay one of the top new artists to collect now!

    For more, check out GayGaddis.com

    You don’t need to be a cowgirl or a Texan to find incredible value in Gay’s advice! It’s relevant no matter where you sit, or what your aspirations may be. xo

    The post How to kick ass like a cowgirl and other secrets of success: entrepreneur, author & artist Gay Gaddis (Episode 112) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Recipe for press….advice for building your business and reinventing your life: Amy Flurry (Episode 111) Jul 13, 2020
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    Amy Flurry is a features writer and former editor for some of the biggest names in the magazine publishing world: Lucky, Country Living, Conde Nast Traveler, and House Beautiful to name a few. She’s also an expert at reinvention. Particularly important for our conversation today, Amy is an expert at helping others understand and fine tune their brand and personal story to align with editorial interests and need. She helps clients learn how to get attention for their ideas, product, or to sell their service and she teaches and consults to help individual influencers become experts at managing their own PR. Amy is also the author of “Recipe for Press: Pitch your story and create a Buzz” a beautiful book she self-published and has used to build and promote her own business for almost a decade. She’s also a featured speaker at national trade shows around the country.

    With so many people taking a good hard look at jobs and careers and many making significant life and career changes, Amy’s advice has never been more important.

    In this episode, Amy and I talk about:

    How she designed and built her business and what you can learn from her experience;

    How to think about monetizing ideas;

    How to get attention for yourself and pitch your ideas to editors; and

    How to think about self-publishing as a tool to sell your business, ideas and/or services (and Amy’s perspective and words of caution about ordering that first run of books!)

    For anyone who’s trying to figure out what’s next, and how to take what you know and deploy it in a new way, I think you’ll find so much value in Amy’s perspective and insight! Let me know what you think! xo

    P.S. You can also watch our conversation via our YouTube channel

    The post Recipe for press….advice for building your business and reinventing your life: Amy Flurry (Episode 111) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Demystifying and inspiring civic engagement: Kim Wehle, Constitutional law professor, legal scholar & author (Episode 110) Jun 23, 2020
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    The most basic act of civic engagement is voting. With few exceptions, it’s available to all citizens. Yet, the vast majority of eligible voters — women and men — in the U.S. don’t take advantage of this privilege. In Episode 110, I’m joined by Kim Wehle who has made voting and civic literacy her calling. Kim is a Constitutional law professor, a former assistant U.S. Attorney, a prosecutor, and a separation of powers scholar. She’s also the author of two civics handbooks: “How to Read the Constitution — and why” and her more recent book out this month “What you need to know about voting and why.” More than guides for students, Kim’s books are non-partisan guides for all Americans about responsibilities as citizens. Information is presented in an informative, straight-forward manner, but with a particular emphasis on personal responsibility. You don’t need to line up in either the Red or Blue column to appreciate that civic literacy is critical for an effective functioning government.

    In our conversation, I talk with Kim not only about her work, but about how she found her calling. Her story is a testament to evolving your skills, embracing what you love, and using tough life experiences to remind you of what you are capable of. Kim also talks about the impact she hopes to have on her students, her four daughters, and on all who read her books.

    You can follow Kim on Instagram @Kim.Wehle @theDailyWehle and on Twitter @KimWehle and be sure to follow us @SheSaidSheSaidPodcast and @LauraCoxKaplan and on Twitter @SheSaid2Podcast @LauraCoxKaplan .

    And, if you’re enjoying She Said/She Said, please be sure to sign up for updates on the website, and subscribe on Itunes!

    Thanks for listening! I’m grateful for your time, and hope we’ve left you with some powerful food for thought!

    The post Demystifying and inspiring civic engagement: Kim Wehle, Constitutional law professor, legal scholar & author (Episode 110) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Taking risks and innovating media coverage of women: Emily Ramshaw, co-founder & CEO, The 19th* (Episode 109) Jun 15, 2020
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    Emily Ramshaw is an innovator in media today. As the co-founder and CEO of The 19th*, she is creating the nation’s first non-profit, nonpartisan newsroom that is situated squarely at the intersection of gender, politics and policy. Emily and her team are working to create a platform that more inclusively covers issues as they pertain to women of all races, faiths, and political persuasions. It’s a huge challenge to be sure, but for Emily it’s the big idea that just wouldn’t go away and the one she felt was worth taking a big risk for!

    The 19th* is also embracing a cutting edge non-profit journalism business model similar to one created at the Texas Tribune. Emily has spent the past decade at the Tribune, and as editor-in-chief since 2016.

    When Texas Tribune co-founders Evan Smith and Ross Ramsey were asked how they selected Emily to join the team they were building, Ramsey is quoted as saying: “You ought to hire the reporters who you are afraid to compete with.”

    Emily is a real journalist who understands how to dig into a story. She’s gone undercover in a polygamous West Texas cult, exposed sexual abuse in juvenile detention centers, and her work as both a journalist and leader in media earned her a seat on the Pulitzer board.

    In this episode, I talk with Emily about:

    • how she’s building The 19th* (which is a nod to the 19th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution which gave women the right to vote);
    • how to manage an almost entirely virtual model (even beyond COVID);
    • what impact she hopes to have;
    • how she’ll work to include and cover specific groups of women who often feel left out or ignored by traditional media sources;
    • how she evaluates professional risks;
    • how she tackles self-doubt;
    • what she’s learned from motherhood (she’s the mom of four-year-old Sophie);
    • and more.

    If you’re enjoying She Said/She Said, please let me know! And, please be sure to follow us on Instagram @SheSaidSheSaidPodcast and @LauraCoxKaplan

    I’m grateful for your time, and hope you find this and all of our conversations insightful and uplifting!

    p.s. if you’re listening on Itunes, I would be so grateful for a nice review!

    The post Taking risks and innovating media coverage of women: Emily Ramshaw, co-founder & CEO, The 19th* (Episode 109) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    “Reinvent yourself” with magazine publishing powerhouse turned entrepreneur Lesley Jane Seymour (Episode 108) Jun 09, 2020
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    Lesley Jane Seymore sat at the helm of the women’s magazine world for three decades serving as editor-in-chief of some of the most beloved and best known publications including: Marie Claire, Redbook, YM, and More.

    Moving around the publishing industry required Lesley to learn some important reinvention skills, but not necessarily the types of skills she would need when she saw her career in publishing come to an abrupt end two years earlier than she had planned.

    Lesley shares how she reinvented herself as an entrepreneur, the tools she used, and the challenges she faced in doing so. Since her departure from More, she created Covey Club, where she’s sharing what she’s learned on her own journey to help other women navigate these challenges. Perhaps even more impactfully, Lesley has built a community of “lifelong learners” which she says, “is held together by people who are always trying to better themselves, are willing to learn, to read, and investigate. It’s a certain type of person that attacks the world through educating themselves about the challenges they see.” That’s Covey Club.

    A few highlights from our conversation and what you’ll learn from Episode 108:

    • How and why Lesley started Covey Club;
    • Where to start when you don’t know what you want to do next;
    • How to stand out from the competition and get noticed;
    • How to get others who’ve been part of your tribe on board, especially when they may have trouble seeing you in an entirely new vocation or career.

    The topic of reinvention, which we often talk about on She Said/She Said Podcast is especially timely now given the gigantic jump in unemployment and economic shift we’ve seen — practically overnight. So many people are or will find themselves facing further uncertainty and potentially significant shifts in careers and jobs. For women at mid-career that can be a pretty vulnerable population.

    Lesley said, “If you come out of a successful career where you knew everything, one of the things you have to be ready to accept is that you’re going to go back down to the bottom of the rung, and you will not know what you’re doing. You’ll have to be comfortable with that. And when people say, ‘You don’t know what you’re doing,’ you can say, ‘You’re right. I don’t. And I’m going to learn.’” The trick is to not allow self doubt about what we don’t know take over!

    Lesley also talks about the impact she hopes to have with this current chapter. “My goal, or through line, is that I’ve wanted to help women. I want to educate them. I want them to feel less alone. And, I want them to know that there is a future for them and that they need to own that future, and own their own life. You know it ain’t over until you say it’s over. I think that’s the most important thing.”

    Lesley’s advice for midlife: “Aging is not a disease. It’s not something that you can outrun or take something for. It’s not going to go away. Everybody ages. It’s going to happen. No one has the right to tell you just because you’ve gotten older that you are irrelevant. Some people have allowed themselves to become irrelevant,” but that, she says, is not inevitable.

    Check out Covey Club and join Lesley for Coffee and Conversation on the CC website. And, when you’re not listening to She Said/She Said Podcast, be sure to check out Lesley’s podcast “Reinvent Yourself.”

    If you’re enjoying She Said/She Said Podcast, please be sure to send me a email at Laura@lauracoxkaplan.net and let me know. And, be sure to log into Itunes and leave a review. Your feedback is greatly appreciated and incredibly helpful, and it helps others find our great content!

    I’m grateful for your time! See you next week!

    And, please be sure to check out our You Tube channel where you can watch many of our podcast episodes, including my conversation with Lesley!

    The post “Reinvent yourself” with magazine publishing powerhouse turned entrepreneur Lesley Jane Seymour (Episode 108) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Dr. Annie Fenn, founder The Brain Health Kitchen….what you should know to support optimal brain health and the critical role of life-long learning (Episode 107) May 26, 2020
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    Dr. Annie Fenn is the founder of The Brain Health Kitchen, the only cooking school of its kind focused exclusively on brain health and helping people prevent cognitive decline through food and lifestyle. In Episode 107, Annie joins me from her home in Jackson, Wyoming to talk brain health, and what you can do right now — regardless of your age — to lessen cognitive decline as you age. Even small changes made right now can decrease your chances of developing Alzheimer’s and related dementia by as much as 53 percent.

    Annie comes to this work from an interesting perspective. After 20 years as a board certified OB/GYN, she traded in her stethoscope for an apron to pursue her passion for the culinary arts. But it was her mother’s diagnosis with Alzheimer’s that helped Annie find her path and her new calling, one that enabled her to not only fulfill a new creative pursuit, but to create significant and meaningful impact for others.

    A few important takeaways from this episode:

    • The 5 areas that most impact cognitive decline – note: one is lifelong learning;
    • The MIND diet food groups on which Annie’s approach is largely based and the five food groups;
    • The potential link between the 5 areas and menopausal symptoms;
    • Healthy substitutions for your favorite recipes;
    • Summer grilling tips;
    • and much more!

    There is so much great information in this episode! And while Annie’s tips for eating healthier and incorporating some potentially new foods into your regular diet is powerful stuff, I think you will also love her perspective on personal and professional evolution, including why “retired” should really be on the banned word list!

    In addition to Annie’s work at The Brain Health Kitchen, she also travels around the country — including to the famed Rancho La Puerta — to share her methods and to teach others about the brain health food connection.

    Check out Annie’s work, and that terrific brownie recipe cut short due to a brief power outage, below:

    The Brain Health Kitchen

    Tahini Swirl Brownie Bite Recipe

    What to eat to fend off Alzheimers

    And, be sure to follow Annie on Instagram @BrainHealthKitchen

    If you are enjoying She Said/She Said— and I hope that you are — please let me know. Send message me via the website link, connect with me on Instagram @lauracoxkaplan or @sheSaidSheSaidPodcast, or email me directly at Laura@lauracoxkaplan.net Can’t wait to hear from you!

    Be safe and take care!

    [PHOTO: the “superberry!”]

    The post Dr. Annie Fenn, founder The Brain Health Kitchen….what you should know to support optimal brain health and the critical role of life-long learning (Episode 107) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Quality, sustainability, practicality, and a laser focus on customer experience: Kate Boyer, dynamic CEO of Anatomie shares her secrets for success (Episode 106) May 18, 2020
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    Kate Boyer is the CEO of luxury activewear company Anatomie. Recognized as one of the most disruptive brands in 2020 (just behind All Bird Shoes) Kate, together with her husband Shawn who runs the design side of the business, had to even more fully embrace this notion of disruption. Using her passion for the brand and for their customer, she retooled the company’s marketing focus while simultaneously reinventing a salesforce to make up for lost revenue due to COVID. That’s not so unusual, but doing it practically overnight is! Up until COVID, Anatomie relied on high-end resorts and cruise lines for about 50 percent of its business.

    Kate was born in Soviet-occupied Budapest, Hungary. Her journey from there to where she is today required tremendous grit, risk-taking, and determination, not to mention embracing entrepreneurship and free enterprise which were all but unheard of under the communist regime of her youth. You will love the story of why and how she got her start, and how she thinks about direct-to-consumer sales and branding.

    Kate also shares important advice on staying true to your core mission and brand, and she reminds us that “we can’t be all things to all people.” That’s true whether you’re running a retail company, or just managing yourself.

    There is so much to love about Kate, and the Anatomie brand. (I’ve included links below to items we talked about in the episode, including the amazing camo cargos!) Kate’s energy and positivity are truly contagious!

    To learn more about Anatomie, and be sure to follow Kate and Anatomie on Instagram @AnatomieStyle

    FEATURED ITEMS:

    Laura’s favorites: https://anatomie.com/collections/essentials/products/beth-button-front-shirt (both Kate and Laura were wearing the Beth essential button front shirt for this interview – photos on the website)

    https://anatomie.com/collections/essentials/products/camo-karo-stretch-cargo-pant

    https://anatomie.com/collections/womens-travel-jackets/products/quinny-leather-jacket

    Behind the scenes photos of Kate, her creative director husband Sean Boyer, and newly adopted pup Luna:

    The post Quality, sustainability, practicality, and a laser focus on customer experience: Kate Boyer, dynamic CEO of Anatomie shares her secrets for success (Episode 106) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    The story behind the story: political journalist & author Martha MacCallum (Episode 105) May 11, 2020
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    Powerhouse political journalist Martha MacCallum has always had a love for story, and for the story behind the story. And, while her life’s goal may not always have been television journalism, the fundamentals of what she does and why she does it so well, have always been there along with a voracious curiosity and need to understand and explain “why.” Her aptly named top-rated, daily show “The Story with Martha MacCallum” on Fox News Channel, along with her podcast “The Untold Story,” allows her to dig beyond the headlines of the most compelling news of our time. So, it’s not surprising that she would apply that same passion to a story that is much more personal to her family and that she has now commemorated in “Unknown Valor,” her first book published earlier this year.

    In Episode 105, I talk to Martha about her career, and how writing “Unknown Valor” impacted her, as well as how it has inspired important lessons she hopes to impart to her own children about bravery, patriotism, and sacrifice.

    You can also watch Episode 105 on our YouTube channel here.

    And, don’t forget to subscribe to our weekly newsletter where we share additional content and perspective to complement episodes, along with a few weekly reading recommendations.

    The post The story behind the story: political journalist & author Martha MacCallum (Episode 105) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


    Quarantine cooking survival tips: Washington Post Food Video Editor & Food Lawyer Mary Beth Albright (Episode 104) May 07, 2020
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    For Episode 104, I’ve moved into the kitchen with Washington Post Food Video Editor and Host of The Quarantine Cooking Show — my pal Mary Beth Albright. Mary Beth — a food lawyer by training, is an amazing talent with significant expertise in food policy, public health, and food safety. Her passion for food and the art of “real” cooking is contagious, even for this reluctant cook! She’s also hilarious!

    Mary Beth shares some practical cooking tips including her top 10 pantry/freezer staples (important whether you’re cooking through a pandemic or just trying to stay prepared): canned whole tomatoes, honey, nuts, nut butters, frozen berries, rice and pasta, to name a few. She gives us creative suggestions for not only how to use these items, but also important advice on how some of them can serve as substitutions.

    We also talk about the best resources for food safety guidance related to COVID-19, as well as important perspective on severely impacted food-related businesses.

    This is Mary Beth’s second appearance on She Said/She Said. She joined me back in 2018 in Episode 3 where she shared more about her personal story and her role at The Washington Post.

    You can also watch Episode 104 here.

    [PHOTOS: Episode 3, February 2018 at The Washington Post]

    The post Quarantine cooking survival tips: Washington Post Food Video Editor & Food Lawyer Mary Beth Albright (Episode 104) appeared first on She Said / She Said.


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