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    No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp – Tokens Media

    What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?

    On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.

    Together we ask:

    How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?

    What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?

    Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?

    How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?

    If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.

    Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.

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    141: David Brooks: Can We Save Society By Knowing Each Other? Feb 01, 2024
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    “We’re in the middle of some sort of social crisis,” says New York Times columnist and bestselling author David Brooks.

    Politics and social discourse have become brutal. Loneliness, hopelessness, and suicide rates have been measured at all-time highs. Trust and friendship have been measured at all-time lows. But all is not lost, according to David. There is still a way forward, and it’s simpler than one might think.

    “The essential moral act is the act of attention,” he says. “Our goal should be to cast a just and loving attention on others.” In this episode, he discusses his new book, “How to Know a Person: The Art of Seeing Others Deeply and Being Deeply Seen,” and how truly knowing others calls forth a better version of both oneself and one’s community.

    A warning: this episode contains mention of suicide. If you or someone you know is in crisis, contact the Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    David Brooks: The Road to Character

    Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation

    Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection

    Curt Thompson: The Power Of Being Seen

    Resources mentioned this episode

    How to Know a Person by David Brooks

    The Sovereignty of Good by Iris Murdoch

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link

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    140: Unabridged Interview: John Dear Jan 30, 2024
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    This is our unabridged episode with John Dear.

    How do you live a good life in a world of 30 wars, 13,000 nuclear weapons, 4 billion people in poverty, racism, gun violence, child hunger, and catastrophic climate change?

    This is the question posed by activist and Catholic priest John Dear. For years, John has taken part in peace movements alongside folks like Coretta King, Thich Nhat Hanh, and Desmond Tutu.

    In this episode, he has some unbelievable stories that answer his question in a provocative way. To live a good life, he argues, you cannot support war, nuclear weapons, or violence. “To do the good,” in his words, “means to stop the killing.”

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson

    The Business of War: Justin Barringer

    Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    German Catholics and Hitler’s Wars by Gordon Zahn

    Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

    The Nonviolent Life by John Dear

    The Beatitudes Center

    John Dear’s website

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

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    140: John Dear: How To Be Nonviolent (Best of NSE) Jan 25, 2024
    Show notes

    How do you live a good life in a world of 30 wars, 13,000 nuclear weapons, 4 billion people in poverty, racism, gun violence, child hunger, and catastrophic climate change?

    This is the question posed by activist and Catholic priest John Dear. For years, John has taken part in peace movements alongside folks like Coretta King, Thich Nhat Hanh, and Desmond Tutu.

    In this episode, he has some unbelievable stories that answer his question in a provocative way. To live a good life, he argues, you cannot support war, nuclear weapons, or violence. “To do the good,” in his words, “means to stop the killing.”

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    The Architect of the American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson

    The Business of War: Justin Barringer

    Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    German Catholics and Hitler’s Wars by Gordon Zahn

    Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl

    The Nonviolent Life by John Dear

    The Beatitudes Center

    John Dear’s website

    Transcription Link

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    139: Unabridged Interview: Martin Sheen Jan 23, 2024
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Martin Sheen.

    In this episode, Lee sits down with the former President of the United States…

    At least, that’s how many listeners may know Martin Sheen, an award-winning actor known for his roles in “Apocalypse Now” and “The Departed,” and perhaps most famously for playing President Jed Bartlet in the hit TV series “The West Wing.”

    But offscreen, Martin is perhaps best described as an ardent Catholic peace activist who has been arrested over 60 times. In this episode, he tells his whole story, full of humor and grace all the way from his childhood, to his acting career, to activism alongside James Lawson and John Dear, and much more.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    The Architect of The American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson

    Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    The West Wing Cathedral Scene

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

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    139: Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist (Best of NSE) Jan 18, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode, Lee sits down with the former President of the United States…

    At least, that’s how many listeners may know Martin Sheen, an award-winning actor known for his roles in “Apocalypse Now” and “The Departed,” and perhaps most famously for playing President Jed Bartlet in the hit TV series “The West Wing.”

    But offscreen, Martin is perhaps best described as an ardent Catholic peace activist who has been arrested over 60 times. In this episode, he tells his whole story, full of humor and grace all the way from his childhood, to his acting career, to activism alongside James Lawson and John Dear, and much more.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    The Architect of The American Civil Rights Movement: James Lawson

    Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    The West Wing Cathedral Scene

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube

    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube

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    138: Unabridged Interview: James Lawson Jan 16, 2024
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with James Lawson.

    The US Civil Rights Movement, like Gandhi's Indian Independence Movement, was famously set apart by its employment of non-violent resistance methods. But have you ever wondered how such a movement was possible on so large a scale?

    In this episode, we are honored to have the man who Martin Luther King Jr. called friend, mentor, and the very conscience and architect of the Civil Rights Movement: Reverend James Lawson.

    Now in his 90’s, he discusses the United States’ past and present, and what it took to organize a whole population across the country to fight back without throwing a punch.

    “​​We started the public desegregation of the nation,” he says, “and we did it without hating anybody.”

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America

    Dr. Fred Gray: Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks

    Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Fellowship Of Reconciliation (F.O.R.)

    Rev. James Lawson’s Church: Holman United Methodist

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

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    138: James Lawson: The Architect of the United States Civil Rights Movement (Best of NSE) Jan 11, 2024
    Show notes

    The US Civil Rights Movement, like Gandhi's Indian Independence Movement, was famously set apart by its employment of non-violent resistance methods. But have you ever wondered how such a movement was possible on so large a scale?

    In this episode, we are honored to have the man who Martin Luther King Jr. called friend, mentor, and the very conscience and architect of the Civil Rights Movement: Reverend James Lawson.

    Now in his 90’s, he discusses the United States’ past and present, and what it took to organize a whole population across the country to fight back without throwing a punch.

    “​​We started the public desegregation of the nation,” he says, “and we did it without hating anybody.”

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Eddie Glaude: On James Baldwin’s America

    Dr. Fred Gray: Doing Justice Alongside MLK and Rosa Parks

    Martin Sheen: Actor and Activist

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Fellowship Of Reconciliation (F.O.R.)

    Rev. James Lawson’s Church: Holman United Methodist

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube

    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube

    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter

    Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com

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    Shop No Small Endeavor Merch: Scandalous Witness Course | Scandalous Witness Book | Joy & the Good Life Course

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    137: Unabridged Interview: Angela Duckworth Jan 09, 2024
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    What do Olympic athletes, world-class artists, elite academics, and successful business executives have in common? Ivy League psychologist Angela Duckworth has spent her career researching this question, closely studying those folks at the top of their respective fields who are considered “high achievers.” Surprisingly, it turns out neither talent nor genius is the answer. “The common denominator,” she says, “is grit.”

    In this episode, Angela Duckworth explains what she means by “grit,” discusses why it is such a crucial determinant for success, and offers highly practical methods for developing grit in one’s own life.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman

    What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan

    Resources mentioned this episode

    Grit by Angela Duckworth

    Character Lab

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

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    137: Angela Duckworth: Is Grit the Secret to Success? (Best of NSE) Jan 04, 2024
    Show notes

    What do Olympic athletes, world-class artists, elite academics, and successful business executives have in common? Ivy League psychologist Angela Duckworth has spent her career researching this question, closely studying those folks at the top of their respective fields who are considered “high achievers.” Surprisingly, it turns out neither talent nor genius is the answer. “The common denominator,” she says, “is grit.”

    In this episode, Angela Duckworth explains what she means by “grit,” discusses why it is such a crucial determinant for success, and offers highly practical methods for developing grit in one’s own life.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman

    What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan

    Resources mentioned this episode

    Grit by Angela Duckworth

    Character Lab

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Episode Transcript

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    136: Unabridged Interview: Elise Hu Jan 02, 2024
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    This is our unabridged episode with Elise Hu.

    What is beauty, and what role should it play in our lives?

    Beauty has long been seen as one the three “transcendentals” (along with truth and goodness) which have been valued at all times, in all places, by all cultures. But these days, the word “beauty” is often equated with standards of bodily presentation that, in an increasingly globalized and technological world, are reachable only by extreme measures of constant labor or cosmetic surgery.

    In this episode, Elise asks the question we’re all thinking: is that version of beauty good for us? She discusses her experience in a beauty-obsessed Korean culture, its effects on both women and men, and what a healthy relationship with beauty might look like.

    Show Notes:

    Similar episodes

    The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke

    Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho

    Resources mentioned this episode

    Flawless by Elise Hu

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link for Abridged Episode


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