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    No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp – Tokens Media

    What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?

    On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.

    Together we ask:

    How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?

    What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?

    Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?

    How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?

    If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.

    Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.

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    131: NSE Thanksgiving Special: Conversation and Gratitude Nov 23, 2023
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    Happy Thanksgiving!

    How can one be grateful during difficult times? And how do we talk to one another in a polarized world?

    In this episode, we bring you four conversations to tee you up for a successful and meaningful time with family and friends. First, we hear from six-time Grammy-winner Amy Grant on her newfound gratitude in the wake of a traumatic bike accident. Then, Heather Holleman gives us all practical tips on having great bonding conversations that make people feel seen and heard, transcending the things that divide us. Third, community organizer and activist Diane Latiker shares how she opened up her home and changed the trajectory of a neighborhood through hospitality. Lastly, author Oliver Burkeman reveals the key to living in the moment and transforming the mundane into something meaningful.

    Altogether, it’s the perfect toolkit for getting in the right frame of mind and heading into the holidays with gratitude and conversation.


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    Similar episodes

    Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded

    Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation

    America’s Gun Epidemic: David Hemenway, Chris Hays, Carly Crouch, and Diane Latiker

    Oliver Burkeman: Time Management for Mortals

    Resources mentioned this episode

    4,000 Weeks by Oliver Burkeman

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    130: NSE Thanksgiving Special: No Small Endeavor Live at the Ryman Nov 16, 2023
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    Every year on the Sunday before Thanksgiving, No Small Endeavor hosts a live variety show in downtown Nashville featuring esteemed musicians and guest speakers.

    In 2022, we were joined at the world-famous Ryman Auditorium by Americana duo Johnnyswim and psychiatrist Curt Thompson. It was a night of laughter, story, and song, all to celebrate hospitality, vulnerability, and gratitude. In this episode, we feature some of the highlights from that show.

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    The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson

    Reality TV, The Cuban Revolution, and a Disco Queen Mother: Johnnyswim

    Welcome Table: A Thanksgiving Special

    Resources mentioned this episode

    The Soul of Shame by Curt Thompson

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    129: Unabridged Interview: Michael Budde Nov 14, 2023
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    Should Christians condone war?

    There is a long history of debate among Christians regarding the use of violence. Is “turning the other cheek” an excuse to take oppression lying down? Should Christians adhere to national military obligations? Is there such a thing as a “just war,” or is all killing anti-Christian?

    Michael Budde has been studying these questions for a long time. In this episode, he discusses why he thinks Christians are called to total non-violence, why nationalism is responsible for many of the church’s historical failings, and what a counter-cultural version of faith might look like.


    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear

    The Business of War: Justin Barringer

    Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen

    Randall Balmer: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right


    Resources mentioned this episode

    Just War as Christian Discipleship by Daniel Bell

    No Bars to Manhood by Daniel Berrigan

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

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    129: Michael Budde: Is War Ever Just? Nov 09, 2023
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    Should Christians condone war?

    There is a long history of debate among Christians regarding the use of violence. Is “turning the other cheek” an excuse to take oppression lying down? Should Christians adhere to national military obligations? Is there such a thing as a “just war,” or is all killing anti-Christian?

    Michael Budde has been studying these questions for a long time. In this episode, he discusses why he thinks Christians are called to total non-violence, why nationalism is responsible for many of the church’s historical failings, and what a counter-cultural version of faith might look like.


    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Taking the Beatitudes Seriously: John Dear

    The Business of War: Justin Barringer

    Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen

    Randall Balmer: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right


    Resources mentioned this episode

    Just War as Christian Discipleship by Daniel Bell

    No Bars to Manhood by Daniel Berrigan

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link

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    128: Unabridged Interview: Jesuitical Nov 07, 2023
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    This is our unabridged episode with Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless, co-hosts of Jesuitical.

    Do young people care about religion?

    Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless have good reason to think so. Together, they host the Jesuitical podcast, which explicitly calls itself “a podcast for young Catholics.”

    “Most people are left with trying to solve 27-year-old problems with an eighth grade religious formation,” says Zac. The solution, they believe, is not to take one’s religion less seriously, but more.

    In this episode, they discuss the landscape of faith for young people in today's culture, as well as some of the pressing issues of abuse and injustice that they believe the Church, and American society at large, must address.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    How Celebrity Culture is Hurting the Church: Katelyn Beaty

    Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen

    Randall Balmer: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Jesuitical podcast

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

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    128: Jesuitical: How Young Catholics See The World Nov 02, 2023
    Show notes

    Do young people care about religion?

    Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless have good reason to think so. Together, they host the Jesuitical podcast, which explicitly calls itself “a podcast for young Catholics.”

    “Most people are left with trying to solve 27-year-old problems with an eighth grade religious formation,” says Zac. The solution, they believe, is not to take one’s religion less seriously, but more.

    In this episode, they discuss the landscape of faith for young people in today's culture, as well as some of the pressing issues of abuse and injustice that they believe the Church, and American society at large, must address.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    How Celebrity Culture is Hurting the Church: Katelyn Beaty

    Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen

    Randall Balmer: Race and the Rise of the Religious Right

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Jesuitical podcast

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript Link

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    For Your Consideration: The Gist featuring Rainn Wilson and Eric Weiner Nov 01, 2023
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    Today, we’re sharing a special episode from The Gist—hosted by Mike Pesca.

    Rainn Wilson is the host of Peacock's The Geography Of Bliss, based on the book of the same name written by Eric Weiner. Like Weiner before him, Wilson (who played the legendary Dwight Schrute on The Office) travels the world in search of locally sourced happiness secrets. For some reason, Mike gives them both a hard time, and everyone winds up angrier at each other than one might expect from an exploration of bliss.
    Mike Pesca has established a seven-year connection to his audience as host of The Gist. For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.

    Listen to more episodes of The Gist and follow the podcast: https://pod.link/873667927

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    127: Unabridged Interview: Kelly Corrigan Oct 31, 2023
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    This is our unabridged episode with Kelly Corrigan.

    “What percentage of all pain in the world is related to wanting to belong?”

    Kelly Corrigan - who you may know as a New York Times bestselling author and the host of a number of popular radio and TV shows - was a young mother of two when she and her beloved father were both diagnosed with cancer. It was, to say the least, an immensely difficult time.

    Yet, she found her way through it by relying heavily on her tendency to be vulnerable, rather than hiding her pain from others. “It's just fodder for us to be closer,” she says of her suffering. “The point is to connect.”

    In this episode, she shares her story, along with much wisdom gleaned from a life of leaning into vulnerability.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    • Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded

    • William Paul Young: Author of The Shack

    • Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    • Tell Me More by Kelly Corrigan

    • The Middle Place by Kelly Corrigan

    • Tell Me More on PBS

    • Kelly Corrigan Wonders podcast

    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    • Transcript Link for Abridged Episode

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    127: Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection Oct 26, 2023
    Show notes

    “What percentage of all pain in the world is related to wanting to belong?”

    Kelly Corrigan - who you may know as a New York Times bestselling author and the host of a number of popular radio and TV shows - was a young mother of two when she and her beloved father were both diagnosed with cancer. It was, to say the least, an immensely difficult time.

    Yet, she found her way through it by relying heavily on her tendency to be vulnerable, rather than hiding her pain from others. “It's just fodder for us to be closer,” she says of her suffering. “The point is to connect.”

    In this episode, she shares her story, along with much wisdom gleaned from a life of leaning into vulnerability.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    • Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded

    • William Paul Young: Author of The Shack

    • Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    • Tell Me More by Kelly Corrigan

    • The Middle Place by Kelly Corrigan

    • Tell Me More on PBS

    • Kelly Corrigan Wonders podcast

    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    • Transcript Link

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    126: Unabridged Interview: Jennifer Wiseman Oct 24, 2023
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    This is our unabridged episode with Jennifer Wiseman.

    Astrophysicist Jennifer Wiseman is no stranger to wonder. Spending her days studying the formation of stars and planets, she often finds herself in awe of both the vastness of the universe and its intricate detail. She’s also a practicing Christian, who sees science as complementary rather than contrary to her faith.

    And did we mention she discovered a comet while on a college field trip?

    In this episode, taped in front of a live audience at Nashville’s Sudekum Planetarium under a projection of images from the James Webb Telescope, she discusses her work and her faith, and how their intersection might give helpful insight about the meaning of our lives.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Science, Faith, and Einstein: Alister McGrath

    The Francis Collins Interview

    The (Not Really) War Between Science and Faith: David Wilkinson

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Webb Telescope Website

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

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