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    No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp – Tokens Media

    What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?

    On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.

    Together we ask:

    How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?

    What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?

    Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?

    How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?

    If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.

    Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.

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    126: Jennifer Wiseman: How Science Produces Wonder Oct 19, 2023
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    Astrophysicist Jennifer Wiseman is no stranger to wonder. Spending her days studying the formation of stars and planets, she often finds herself in awe of both the vastness of the universe and its intricate detail. She’s also a practicing Christian, who sees science as complementary rather than contrary to her faith.

    And did we mention she discovered a comet while on a college field trip?

    In this episode, taped in front of a live audience at Nashville’s Sudekum Planetarium under a projection of images from the James Webb Telescope, she discusses her work and her faith, and how their intersection might give helpful insight about the meaning of our lives.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Science, Faith, and Einstein: Alister McGrath

    The Francis Collins Interview

    The (Not Really) War Between Science and Faith: David Wilkinson

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Webb Telescope Website

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript

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    125: Unabridged Interview: Meghan O'Gieblyn Oct 17, 2023
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    This is our unabridged interview with Meghan O’Gieblyn.

    Will technology change what it means to be human?

    Thanks to the rise and implementation of Artificial Intelligence (AI), the common sci-fi trope of a machine-perpetuated apocalypse has taken on a new gravity in recent days. But is Chat GPT really going to rebel against humans, or even change things very much at all?

    “We're at the point where we do have technologies that are incredibly powerful,” says writer and commentator Meghan O’Gieblyn. “They're able to do things that they weren't programmed to do.”

    In this episode, Meghan discusses AI in great detail, and lays out what she believes to be the social, political, ethical, and even theological issues at stake as humanity learns to live with new technology.


    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke

    The Most Polarized Issue in the United States: Katharine Hayhoe

    Beyond Fake News: Justin McBrayer


    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Meghan’s website

    God, Human, Animal, Machine by Meghan O’Gieblyn


    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode


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    125: Meghan O’Gieblyn: Technology and Humanity Oct 12, 2023
    Show notes

    Will technology change what it means to be human?

    Thanks to the rise and implementation of Artificial Intelligence (AI), the common sci-fi trope of a machine-perpetuated apocalypse has taken on a new gravity in recent days. But is Chat GPT really going to rebel against humans, or even change things very much at all?

    “We're at the point where we do have technologies that are incredibly powerful,” says writer and commentator Meghan O’Gieblyn. “They're able to do things that they weren't programmed to do.”

    In this episode, Meghan discusses AI in great detail, and lays out what she believes to be the social, political, ethical, and even theological issues at stake as humanity learns to live with new technology.


    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke

    The Most Polarized Issue in the United States: Katharine Hayhoe

    Beyond Fake News: Justin McBrayer


    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Meghan’s website

    God, Human, Animal, Machine by Meghan O’Gieblyn


    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript


    Join NSE+ Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows

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    124: Unabridged Interview: Amy Grant Oct 10, 2023
    Show notes

    Five weeks before her 16th birthday in 1976, Amy Grant was offered her first record deal. Now, after tens of millions of record sales, six Grammy awards, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and a receipt of Kennedy Center Honors, she is widely recognized as the “Queen of Christian Pop.”

    From the outside, one might assume that Amy must be a character with a personality larger than life. But in this exclusive interview, Amy opens up about her career as a singer, her family life, and her faith, all against the backdrop of a troubling past few years which have included recovering from open-heart surgery and a severe bike accident.

    Through it all, she showcases what truly makes her an anomaly. In spite of her fame, she remains undoubtedly grounded to a life of quiet, peaceful fulfillment.


    Show Notes:

    Similar episodes

    Truth-telling, Anger, and Race: Vince Gill

    “Does This Make My Butt Look Big?”: Ashley Cleveland

    Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss: Drew Holcomb

    Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen

    Resources mentioned this episode

    Amy Grant’s website

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

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    124: Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded Oct 05, 2023
    Show notes

    Five weeks before her 16th birthday in 1976, Amy Grant was offered her first record deal. Now, after tens of millions of record sales, six Grammy awards, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and a receipt of Kennedy Center Honors, she is widely recognized as the “Queen of Christian Pop.”

    From the outside, one might assume that Amy must be a character with a personality larger than life. But in this exclusive interview, Amy opens up about her career as a singer, her family life, and her faith, all against the backdrop of a troubling past few years which have included recovering from open-heart surgery and a severe bike accident.

    Through it all, she showcases what truly makes her an anomaly. In spite of her fame, she remains undoubtedly grounded to a life of quiet, peaceful fulfillment.


    Show Notes:

    Similar episodes

    Truth-telling, Anger, and Race: Vince Gill

    “Does This Make My Butt Look Big?”: Ashley Cleveland

    Fighting Dragons and Singing at Loss: Drew Holcomb

    Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen

    Resources mentioned this episode

    Amy Grant’s website

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link

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    Announcing NSE+ Oct 04, 2023
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    We’re excited to announce our new subscriber program NSE+, a $5/month subscription including a monthly bonus episode from Lee Camp, designed to give you practical steps based on the conversations we have on No Small Endeavor. PLUS, with a subscription you’ll receive ad-free listening and discounts to our live shows.
    This monthly bonus conversation between Lee Camp and producer, Jakob Lewis, highlights practices and habits they have learned from the many guests on the show over the years. They also speak openly and honestly about the many hindrances and struggles they have pursuing a good life. We'll walk you through practices on the podcast and invite you in to participate and share your experiences, to be featured or discussed on NSE+.

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    123: Unabridged Interview: Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz Oct 03, 2023
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged episode with Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz.

    For all our modern so-called progress, global happiness levels have been consistently going down, especially in the richest and most developed countries.

    So what does it really take to be happy?

    Since 1938, Harvard scientists have been closely studying the lives of over 700 individuals to answer that very question. In this episode, two of the scientists who are now in charge of the study - Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz - discuss the results of what is known as the “world’s longest study on happiness,” and describe why they believe that meaningful relationships are the key to living a long, happy, flourishing life.

    Show Notes:

    Similar episodes

    • David Desteno: Can Religion Make You Happier?

    • The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke and John Mark Comer

    • The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson

    • The Art of Conversation: Heather Holleman

    Resources mentioned this episode

    • The Good Life by Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz

    • Robert Waldinger’s TED Talk

    • Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam

    • WISER tool for relationships: Watch, Interpret, Select, Engage, and Reflect

    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    • Transcription Link for Abridged Episode

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    123: Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz: The Good Life - Lessons from the World’s Longest Study on Happiness (Best of NSE) Sep 28, 2023
    Show notes

    For all our modern so-called progress, global happiness levels have been consistently going down, especially in the richest and most developed countries.

    So what does it really take to be happy?

    Since 1938, Harvard scientists have been closely studying the lives of over 700 individuals to answer that very question. In this episode, two of the scientists who are now in charge of the study - Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz - discuss the results of what is known as the “world’s longest study on happiness,” and describe why they believe that meaningful relationships are the key to living a long, happy, flourishing life.

    Show Notes:

    Similar episodes

    • David Desteno: Can Religion Make You Happier?

    • The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke and John Mark Comer

    • The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson

    • The Art of Conversation: Heather Holleman

    Resources mentioned this episode

    • The Good Life by Robert Waldinger and Marc Schulz

    • Robert Waldinger’s TED Talk

    • Bowling Alone by Robert Putnam

    • WISER tool for relationships: Watch, Interpret, Select, Engage, and Reflect

    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    • Transcription Link

    JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | YouTube
    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter
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    122: Unabridged Interview: William Paul Young Sep 26, 2023
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged episode with William Paul Young.

    At age 50, William Paul Young wrote the New York Times best-selling novel “The Shack” as a gift to his kids—only printing copies for his family and friends. Today, it has sold 25 million copies and been turned into a major motion picture.

    11 years prior to writing “The Shack,” Paul’s wife discovered he was having an extra-marital affair. With nothing left to hide, he began a journey toward healing and wholeness: dealing with childhood abuse, religious trauma, a host of broken relationships, and a life of constant, exhausting image-management.

    Subsequently, he wrote “The Shack” in an attempt to express the nature of what he calls “Divine Love”. In this episode, Paul shares how love, grace, and healing only happen in the present moment, wisdom he gleaned from seeing his own life saved from the brink of falling apart.

    Show Notes:

    • Similar episodes

      • Parker Palmer: Courage, Vocation, Paradox
      • Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen
      • The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson
    • Resources mentioned this episode

      • The Shack by William Paul Young
      • The Body Keeps The Score by Bessel van der Kolk
      • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
      • Transcription Link for Abridged Episode

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    122: William Paul Young: Author of The Shack (Best of NSE) Sep 21, 2023
    Show notes

    At age 50, William Paul Young wrote the New York Times best-selling novel “The Shack” as a gift to his kids—only printing copies for his family and friends. Today, it has sold 25 million copies and been turned into a major motion picture.

    11 years prior to writing “The Shack,” Paul’s wife discovered he was having an extra-marital affair. With nothing left to hide, he began a journey toward healing and wholeness: dealing with childhood abuse, religious trauma, a host of broken relationships, and a life of constant, exhausting image-management.

    Subsequently, he wrote “The Shack” in an attempt to express the nature of what he calls “Divine Love”. In this episode, Paul shares how love, grace, and healing only happen in the present moment, wisdom he gleaned from seeing his own life saved from the brink of falling apart.

    Show Notes:

    • Similar episodes

      • Parker Palmer: Courage, Vocation, Paradox
      • Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen
      • The Power of Being Known: Curt Thompson
    • Resources mentioned this episode

      • The Shack by William Paul Young
      • The Body Keeps The Score by Bessel van der Kolk
      • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
      • Transcription Link

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