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    No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp – Tokens Media

    What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?

    On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.

    Together we ask:

    How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?

    What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?

    Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?

    How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?

    If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.

    Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.

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    116: Unabridged Interview: Charlie Strobel Aug 15, 2023
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    This is our unabridged interview with Charles Strobel.

    On August 6th, 2023, at the age of 80, Charles Strobel, affectionately known as Charlie, left us. Today, we revisit our 2020 interview with him. A true Nashville icon, he was once hailed as "Tennesseean of the Year." As a Catholic priest and the visionary behind Room In The Inn, a Nashville-based non-profit dedicated to offering hospitality, education, community, and employment to those experiencing homelessness, Charlie's impact was immeasurable.

    Join us in this special episode where he shares captivating anecdotes from his life, recounting his journey from living among the homeless to founding a shelter for them. He candidly discusses his battles with depression and the transformative power of therapy. Incredibly, he opens up about his journey to forgive the individual who took his mother's life.

    Charlie's existence epitomized the essence of a well-lived life, making him an extraordinary example to us all. As we mourn his passing, let's celebrate the legacy he leaves behind.

    Show Notes:

    • Similar episodes

      • Ending Violence Through Forgiveness: Azim Khamisa
      • Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence
    • Resources mentioned this episode

      • Room In The Inn
      • Charlie’s Obituary
    • Transcription Link for Abridged Episode

    • PDF of Lee's Interview Notes

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    116: Charles Strobel: Remembering a Life Well Lived Aug 10, 2023
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    On August 6th, 2023, at the age of 80, Charles Strobel, affectionately known as Charlie, left us. Today, we revisit our 2020 interview with him. A true Nashville icon, he was once hailed as "Tennesseean of the Year." As a Catholic priest and the visionary behind Room In The Inn, a Nashville-based non-profit dedicated to offering hospitality, education, community, and employment to those experiencing homelessness, Charlie's impact was immeasurable.

    Join us in this special episode where he shares captivating anecdotes from his life, recounting his journey from living among the homeless to founding a shelter for them. He candidly discusses his battles with depression and the transformative power of therapy. Incredibly, he opens up about his journey to forgive the individual who took his mother's life.

    Charlie's existence epitomized the essence of a well-lived life, making him an extraordinary example to us all. As we mourn his passing, let's celebrate the legacy he leaves behind.

    Show Notes:

    • Similar episodes
      • Ending Violence Through Forgiveness: Azim Khamisa
      • Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence
    • Resources mentioned this episode
      • Room In The Inn
      • Charlie’s Obituary
    • Transcription Link
    • PDF of Lee's Interview Notes

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    115: Unabridged Interview: Elise Hu Aug 08, 2023
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    This is our unabridged interview with Elise Hu.

    What is beauty, and what role should it play in our lives?

    Beauty has long been seen as one the three “transcendentals” (along with truth and goodness) which have been valued at all times, in all places, by all cultures. But these days, the word “beauty” is often equated with standards of bodily presentation that, in an increasingly globalized and technological world, are reachable only by extreme measures of constant labor or cosmetic surgery.

    In this episode, Elise asks the question we’re all thinking: is that version of beauty good for us? She discusses her experience in a beauty-obsessed Korean culture, its effects on both women and men, and what a healthy relationship with beauty might look like.

    Show Notes:

    • Similar episodes
      • The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke
      • Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho
    • Resources mentioned this episode
      • Flawless by Elise Hu
    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
    • Transcription Link for Abridged Episode

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    115: Elise Hu: Obsessed With Beauty Aug 03, 2023
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    What is beauty, and what role should it play in our lives?

    Beauty has long been seen as one the three “transcendentals” (along with truth and goodness) which have been valued at all times, in all places, by all cultures. But these days, the word “beauty” is often equated with standards of bodily presentation that, in an increasingly globalized and technological world, are reachable only by extreme measures of constant labor or cosmetic surgery.

    In this episode, Elise asks the question we’re all thinking: is that version of beauty good for us? She discusses her experience in a beauty-obsessed Korean culture, its effects on both women and men, and what a healthy relationship with beauty might look like.

    • Show Notes:
    • Similar episodes
      • The Price of the Pursuit of Pleasure: Anna Lembke
      • Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk: Eugene Cho
    • Resources mentioned this episode
      • Flawless by Elise Hu
    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
    • Transcription Link

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    114: Unabridged Interview: Tish Harrison Warren Aug 01, 2023
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    This is our unabridged interview with Tish Harrison Warren.

    Does pluralism result in discrimination? Must one choose a political side, either on the Left or the Right? And how can an ordinary life be an exceptional one?

    These are all questions involving dichotomies that are commonly presented to us in our culture. But Tish Harrison Warren, an ordained Anglican priest and columnist for the New York Times, sees such dichotomies as false, and has spent her own life’s work breaking them down in whatever ways she can.

    In this episode, Tish discusses her experience as a campus minister in the midst of controversy at Vanderbilt University, what it’s like holding convictions while under fire from both sides of the political spectrum, and her award-winning book Liturgy of the Ordinary.

    Show Notes:

    • Similar episodes

      • Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French
      • Dorothy Day: Traditional, Radical, Christian
      • “What Could Possibly Produce Someone with a Soul That Shallow?”: Stanley Hauerwas
    • Resources mentioned this episode

      • Liturgy of the Ordinary by Tish Harrison Warren
      • Tish’s website
      • Tish’s New York Times column
    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    • Transcription Link for Abridged Episode

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    114: Tish Harrison Warren: Beyond Left and Right Jul 26, 2023
    Show notes

    Does pluralism result in discrimination? Must one choose a political side, either on the Left or the Right? And how can an ordinary life be an exceptional one?

    These are all questions involving dichotomies that are commonly presented to us in our culture. But Tish Harrison Warren, an ordained Anglican priest and columnist for the New York Times, sees such dichotomies as false, and has spent her own life’s work breaking them down in whatever ways she can.

    In this episode, Tish discusses her experience as a campus minister in the midst of controversy at Vanderbilt University, what it’s like holding convictions while under fire from both sides of the political spectrum, and her award-winning book Liturgy of the Ordinary.

    Show Notes:

    • Similar episodes

      • Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French
      • Dorothy Day: Traditional, Radical, Christian
      • “What Could Possibly Produce Someone with a Soul That Shallow?”: Stanley Hauerwas
    • Resources mentioned this episode

      • Liturgy of the Ordinary by Tish Harrison Warren
      • Tish’s website
      • Tish’s New York Times column
    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    • Transcription Link

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    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube

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    113: Unabridged Interview: Angela Duckworth Jul 25, 2023
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Angela Duckworth.

    What do Olympic athletes, world-class artists, elite academics, and successful business executives have in common?

    Ivy League psychologist Angela Duckworth has spent her career researching this question, closely studying those folks at the top of their respective fields who are considered “high achievers.”

    Surprisingly, it turns out talent is not the answer. Neither is genius. “The common denominator,” she says, “is grit.”

    In this episode, she explains what she means by “grit,” discusses why it is such a crucial determinant for success, and offers highly practical methods for developing grit in one’s own life.

    Show Notes:

    • Similar episodes
      • Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman
      • What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan
    • Resources mentioned this episode
      • Grit by Angela Duckworth
      • Character Lab
    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
    • Transcription Link for Abridged Episode

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    113: Angela Duckworth: Is Grit the Secret to Success? Jul 20, 2023
    Show notes

    What do Olympic athletes, world-class artists, elite academics, and successful business executives have in common?

    Ivy League psychologist Angela Duckworth has spent her career researching this question, closely studying those folks at the top of their respective fields who are considered “high achievers.”

    Surprisingly, it turns out talent is not the answer. Neither is genius. “The common denominator,” she says, “is grit.”

    In this episode, she explains what she means by “grit,” discusses why it is such a crucial determinant for success, and offers highly practical methods for developing grit in one’s own life.

    Show Notes:

      • Similar episodes
      • Time Management for Mortals: Oliver Burkeman
      • What it Takes to Live a Good Life: Meghan Sullivan
    • Resources mentioned this episode

      • Grit by Angela Duckworth
      • Character Lab
    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    • Transcription Link

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube

    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube

    Follow Lee: Instagram | Twitter

    Join our Email List: nosmallendeavor.com

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    112: Unabridged Interview: Parker Palmer (Part II) Jul 17, 2023
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    This is Part II of our unabridged interview with Parker Palmer.

    “Things didn’t come together vocationally for me until I was 50.”

    Now 84 years old, Quaker writer, speaker, and activist Parker Palmer has much to say about living a good life. And in his experience, a good life is often hard-won and counterintuitive.

    In this episode, Parker covers a lot of ground, offering wisdom gleaned from a life lived at attention to the makings of a good life. He tells about his experience seeking and finding vocation, discovering how a rich life entails the embrace of paradox, and living through two major bouts of depression which gave him an increased attention to life’s small things.

    Show Notes:

    • Similar episodes
      • Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen
      • Author of The Shack: William Paul Young
    • Resources mentioned this episode
      • Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer
      • The Courage to Teach by Parker Palmer
    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
    • Transcription Link for Abridged Episode

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    112: Unabridged Interview: Parker Palmer (Part I) Jul 15, 2023
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    This is Part I of our unabridged interview with Parker Palmer.

    “Things didn’t come together vocationally for me until I was 50.”

    Now 84 years old, Quaker writer, speaker, and activist Parker Palmer has much to say about living a good life. And in his experience, a good life is often hard-won and counterintuitive.

    In this episode, Parker covers a lot of ground, offering wisdom gleaned from a life lived at attention to the makings of a good life. He tells about his experience seeking and finding vocation, discovering how a rich life entails the embrace of paradox, and living through two major bouts of depression which gave him an increased attention to life’s small things.

    Show Notes:

    • Similar episodes
      • Actor and Activist: Martin Sheen
      • Author of The Shack: William Paul Young
    • Resources mentioned this episode
      • Let Your Life Speak by Parker Palmer
      • The Courage to Teach by Parker Palmer
    • PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes
    • Transcription Link for Abridged Episode

    Subscribe to episodes: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Stitcher | Google | YouTube

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