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    No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp – Tokens Media

    What does it really mean to live a good life—in our politics, our faith, our work, and our relationships?

    On No Small Endeavor with Lee C. Camp, we explore the ideas, practices, and public debates that shape human flourishing today. Each week you’ll hear thought-provoking conversations with bestselling authors, philosophers, neuroscientists, psychologists, theologians, artists, and political leaders—people wrestling with the biggest questions of meaning and purpose in our time.

    Together we ask:

    How can religion be a force for healing instead of division?

    What does neuroscience reveal about happiness, habits, and productivity?

    Where do politics and justice meet the pursuit of the common good?

    How do truth, beauty, and goodness help us live well—personally and collectively?

    If you care about faith, politics, social justice, science, or the search for meaning, you’ll find courageous, practical conversations here. Because pursuing a meaningful life is no small endeavor—and we’re with you on the road.

    Learn more at nosmallendeavor.com.

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    150: Azim Khamisa: Ending Violence Through Forgiveness (Best of NSE) Apr 04, 2024
    Show notes

    How do you forgive the man who killed your son?

    In 1995, Azim Khamisa’s only son Tariq was shot and killed while delivering a pizza. The killer was a 14-year-old gang member named Tony Hicks, and due to a recent change of law in the state of California, Tony was tried as an adult and sentenced to 25 years to life in prison.

    But instead of responding with a call for outrage or revenge, Azim did the unthinkable: he forgave his son’s killer, and he fought for his release.

    “My interpretation of this tragedy was that there are victims at both ends of the gun,” he says. In this episode, he tells the full story of how he uses his experience to help end youth violence, even recruiting his son’s killer to join in the work. It is one of unimaginable grief, staunch faith, and unwavering compassion.

    Show Notes:

    Similar episodes

    Forgiving My Mother’s Murderer: Sharon Risher

    Burying 250 Friends: Greg Boyle on Community Amidst Gang Violence

    Resources mentioned this episode

    TKF’s website

    Azim’s website

    Azim’s TED Talk

    Email Azim: azim@azimkhamisa.com

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link

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    149: Unabridged Interview: Dacher Keltner Apr 02, 2024
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Dacher Keltner.

    “Brief doses…help your heart, your immune system, your stress, your reasoning, your relationships,” says psychologist and bestselling author Dacher Keltner. And believe it or not, he’s not describing some new miracle drug or medical treatment.

    He’s talking about the experience of awe.

    He defines awe as “the feeling we have when we encounter vast, mysterious things.” It’s something we all have experienced, but often talk about rather sheepishly. Dacher has spent considerable time seeking it out and studying it, and the results are in. In this episode, he shares his findings, and offers all the ways in which awe is a necessary component to a happy, healthy, flourishing life.

    Show Notes:

    Similar episodes

    Jennifer Wiseman: How Science Produces Wonder

    David Desteno: Can Religion Make You Happier?

    Judith Moskowitz: How to Flourish Amidst Stress

    Resources mentioned this episode

    Awe by Dacher Keltner

    AlanCowan.com

    Ming Kuo’s 21 pathways by which nature is good for one’s health

    Brian Sutton and Tammy Rogers performing “Nachstucke”

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

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    149: Dacher Keltner: How Awe Will Transform Your Life Mar 28, 2024
    Show notes

    “Brief doses…help your heart, your immune system, your stress, your reasoning, your relationships,” says psychologist and bestselling author Dacher Keltner. And believe it or not, he’s not describing some new miracle drug or medical treatment.

    He’s talking about the experience of awe.

    He defines awe as “the feeling we have when we encounter vast, mysterious things.” It’s something we all have experienced, but often talk about rather sheepishly. Dacher has spent considerable time seeking it out and studying it, and the results are in. In this episode, he shares his findings, and offers all the ways in which awe is a necessary component to a happy, healthy, flourishing life.

    Show Notes:

    Similar episodes

    Jennifer Wiseman: How Science Produces Wonder

    David Desteno: Can Religion Make You Happier?

    Judith Moskowitz: How to Flourish Amidst Stress

    Resources mentioned this episode

    Awe by Dacher Keltner

    AlanCowan.com

    Ming Kuo’s 21 pathways by which nature is good for one’s health

    Brian Sutton and Tammy Rogers performing “Nachstucke”

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link

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    148: Unabridged Interview: Philip Yancey Mar 26, 2024
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Philip Yancey.

    What do we do with the painful parts of our life story?

    Anybody familiar with Philip Yancey’s work knows that it has cost him more than time to be a bestselling author and journalist. It has cost him a lifetime of pain, loss, and deep spiritual struggle.

    Philip intentionally waited until recently to write down his story to protect some of the people in it, but now in his seventies, he’s released “Where the Light Fell,” his memoir that shares all the messy details about growing and beyond - losing his father, childhood poverty, parental abuse, ruinous fundamentalist Christianity, militant atheism, a nearly fatal car accident, and more.

    In this episode he shares how he managed to come to new understanding in the face of suffering. “A writer really only has one gift,” says Philip Yancey, “and that's the gift of his or her own life.”

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    William Paul Young: Author of The Shack

    Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded

    Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection

    Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Where the Light Fell by Philip Yancey

    My Name is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok

    Soul Survivor by Philip Yancey

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

    JOIN NSE+ Today! Our subscriber only community with bonus episodes, ad-free listening, and discounts on live shows

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    148: Philip Yancey: Where the Light Fell Mar 21, 2024
    Show notes

    What do we do with the painful parts of our life story?

    Anybody familiar with Philip Yancey’s work knows that it has cost him more than time to be a bestselling author and journalist. It has cost him a lifetime of pain, loss, and deep spiritual struggle.

    Philip intentionally waited until recently to write down his story to protect some of the people in it, but now in his seventies, he’s released “Where the Light Fell,” his memoir that shares all the messy details about growing and beyond - losing his father, childhood poverty, parental abuse, ruinous fundamentalist Christianity, militant atheism, a nearly fatal car accident, and more.

    In this episode he shares how he managed to come to new understanding in the face of suffering. “A writer really only has one gift,” says Philip Yancey, “and that's the gift of his or her own life.”

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    William Paul Young: Author of The Shack

    Amy Grant: Fame, Vulnerability, and Staying Grounded

    Kelly Corrigan: How Vulnerability Leads to Connection

    Christian Wiman: The Opposite of Faith is Certainty

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Where the Light Fell by Philip Yancey

    My Name is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok

    Soul Survivor by Philip Yancey

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link

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    147: Unabridged Interview: Tara Brach Mar 19, 2024
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Tara Brach.

    How do you accept yourself fully, just as you are? And if you did, would you ever grow?

    “Being at peace with how we are in the moment is the precondition to transformation,” says psychologist and meditation teacher Tara Brach.

    In this episode she provides us with a simple practice to find peace and transformation known by the acronym RAIN.

    “We have amazing potential to change some of the habits that cause ourselves or others harm,” she says, “but we won't be able to access that if we're at war with ourselves.” Hear Tara’s stories from a life of practicing mindfulness, putting on display the wisdom and healing that come from pausing to accept the world as it is.

    This episode contains a brief mention of disordered eating. If you are in need of support, contact the National Alliance for Eating Disorders at 1-866-662-1235

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Kristin Neff: Self Compassion

    Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known

    Suzanne Stabile: Enneagram Wisdom and Living Well

    William Paul Young: Author of The Shack

    Resources mentioned this episode

    Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach

    When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chodron

    RAIN meditation with Tara Brach

    Tonglen meditation with Pema Chodron

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode


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    147: Tara Brach: Radical Acceptance Mar 14, 2024
    Show notes

    How do you accept yourself fully, just as you are? And if you did, would you ever grow?

    “Being at peace with how we are in the moment is the precondition to transformation,” says psychologist and meditation teacher Tara Brach.

    In this episode she provides us with a simple practice to find peace and transformation known by the acronym RAIN.

    “We have amazing potential to change some of the habits that cause ourselves or others harm,” she says, “but we won't be able to access that if we're at war with ourselves.” Hear Tara’s stories from a life of practicing mindfulness, putting on display the wisdom and healing that come from pausing to accept the world as it is.

    This episode contains a brief mention of disordered eating. If you are in need of support, contact the National Alliance for Eating Disorders at 1-866-662-1235

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Kristin Neff: Self Compassion

    Curt Thompson: The Power of Being Known

    Suzanne Stabile: Enneagram Wisdom and Living Well

    William Paul Young: Author of The Shack

    Resources mentioned this episode

    Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach

    When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chodron

    RAIN meditation with Tara Brach

    Tonglen meditation with Pema Chodron

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link


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    Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | YouTube
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    146: Unabridged Interview: Malcolm Gladwell Mar 12, 2024
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Malcolm Gladwell.

    You may think you know Malcolm Gladwell.

    He is, after all, a New York Times bestselling author of “Outliers,” “The Tipping Point,” “Blink,” and other books. He’s the host of the wildly popular podcast “Revisionist History.” His work is heralded and his opinion asked by many folks on a wide array of issues. But what makes him so different that he has become one of the most successful journalists of our day?

    In this episode, Malcolm tells a host of stories - from receiving endorsement from his mother to cut class, to attending a Mennonite barn-raising with his mathematician father, to spending three days a week in Freudian therapy as a young adult - all which help explain how he became the wildly curious and unpinnable person that he is, bent on getting to the bottom of things.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    David Brooks: Can We Save Society by Knowing Each Other?

    Bill McKibben: The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon

    Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell

    Blink by Malcolm Gladwell

    The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell

    Revisionist History Podcast

    Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcript for Abridged Episode

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    146: Malcolm Gladwell: Becoming Malcolm Mar 07, 2024
    Show notes

    You may think you know Malcolm Gladwell.

    He is, after all, a New York Times bestselling author of “Outliers,” “The Tipping Point,” “Blink,” and other books. He’s the host of the wildly popular podcast “Revisionist History.” His work is heralded and his opinion asked by many folks on a wide array of issues. But what makes him so different that he has become one of the most successful journalists of our day?

    In this episode, Malcolm tells a host of stories - from receiving endorsement from his mother to cut class, to attending a Mennonite barn-raising with his mathematician father, to spending three days a week in Freudian therapy as a young adult - all which help explain how he became the wildly curious and unpinnable person that he is, bent on getting to the bottom of things.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    David Brooks: Can We Save Society by Knowing Each Other?

    Bill McKibben: The Flag, the Cross, and the Station Wagon

    Heather Holleman: The Art of Conversation

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell

    Blink by Malcolm Gladwell

    The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell

    Revisionist History Podcast

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link

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    145: Unabridged Interview: Tim Alberta Mar 05, 2024
    Show notes

    This is our unabridged interview with Tim Alberta.

    At No Small Endeavor, we try to talk about the things that really matter to people. Two such things - politics and religion - are notoriously tricky to discuss without generalizing, proselytizing, or stoking division.

    But in an election year, we can’t ignore a sub-group in the United States that is adamant about combining faith and nation: Christian Nationalists.

    In this episode, we called in Tim Alberta, author of “The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory” and an expert for the job. He shares what it was like growing up around the movement, offers his criticism of a subculture he knows inside and out, and presents the clear and present danger of conflating religious identity with national identity.

    Show Notes

    Similar episodes:

    Kristin Du Mez: Jesus and John Wayne

    Kristin Du Mez Sits with David French

    David French: Conservatism without Trumpism

    Russell Moore: Against, and For, the Tribe

    Randall Balmer – name? Link?

    Resources mentioned this episode:

    The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory by Tim Alberta

    Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Du Mez

    PDF of Lee’s Interview Notes

    Transcription Link for Abridged Episode


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