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    Marketing Against The Grain

    Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot’s SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.

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    Apple Intelligence Can Outsmart 99% Of Marketers (WWDC Recap) Jun 13, 2024
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    Ep.234

    Is Apple's AI revolution set to change the way you interact with technology and market your business?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into Apple’s groundbreaking AI integrations announced at WWDC and their monumental impact on the future of marketing. Learn more about how Apple is training consumers to use AI without realizing it, the strategic partnership with OpenAI, and what marketers need to do to stay ahead in the rapidly shifting landscape.



    Mentions

    • Grab HubSpot's free AI-Powered Customer Platform and watch your business grow https://clickhubspot.com/cmt
    • Apple WWDC https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/
    • Apple Intelligence https://www.apple.com/apple-intelligence/
    • Genmoji https://mashable.com/article/how-to-use-genmoji-on-ios-18


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    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Watch These 33 Minutes To Become An AI Expert Jun 11, 2024
    Show notes

    Ep. 233

    What happens if AI reduces human cost to zero?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the groundbreaking implications of AI on sales training, marketing efficiency, and customer support roles. Learn more about how AI can revolutionize sales training by mimicking customer interactions and providing personalized guidance for sales reps, the integration of AI tools in marketing for scalable content creation and lead generation, and the future potential of AI in customer support through advanced voice and video interfaces.


    Mentions

    • Carta https://carta.com/
    • Chat GPT https://www.openai.com/
    • Claude Opus https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-family
    • Grab HubSpot's free AI-Powered Customer Platform and watch your business grow https://clickhubspot.com/cmt


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    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    How To Rank #1 With Google’s Secret Algorithm (Google Leak Explained) Jun 06, 2024
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    Ep. 232

    What do the recent Google leaks mean?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the future of marketing automation and how Google's secret algorithm changes the game. In this episode, Kipp and Kieran sit down with Rand Fishkin, the former CEO of Moz and founder of SparkToro, to uncover the hidden facets of Google's ranking system, the influence of AI on marketing strategies, and how empathy and understanding your audience can reshape your marketing success.


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    • Grab HubSpot's free AI-Powered Customer Platform and watch your business grow https://clickhubspot.com/cmt
    • Rand Fishkin https://www.linkedin.com/in/randfishkin/
    • SparkToro https://sparktoro.com/
    • Brian Balfour https://brianbalfour.com/
    • Google Leaks https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/29/24167407/google-search-algorithm-documents-leak-confirmation
    • Moz https://moz.com/


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    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    How This 19-Year-Old Got 11 Million Views In 4 Days (Shorts Masterclass) Jun 04, 2024
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    Ep. 231

    What does it take to get 11 million views in just 4 days? It’s the ultimate masterclass with 19-year-old sensation Jenny Hoyos, who cracked the code with YouTube Shorts.

    Kipp and Kieran dive into Jenny’s strategic approach to creating viral content and building a massive following. Learn more about the art of video progression to keep your audience hooked, the importance of balancing entertainment and education, and Jenny’s top secrets to optimizing viewer retention and rewatchability. In this episode, Jenny shares actionable insights and proven tactics that can transform your content creation game.


    Mentions

    • Jenny Hoyos https://www.youtube.com/@JennyHoyos
    • Blue Ocean Strategy https://www.blueoceanstrategy.com
    • MrBeast https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX6OQ3DkcsbYNE6H8uQQuVA
    • Grab HubSpot's free AI-Powered Customer Platform and watch your business grow https://clickhubspot.com/cmt


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    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

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    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

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    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Look Dumb or Get Disrupted: Google's Risky AI Overviews Launch May 30, 2024
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    Ep. 230

    Is Google's AI making search better or humorously worse?


    Kieran dives into the intrigue and drama behind Google's newest feature, AI Overviews, and its risky launch. Learn more on Google's "look dumb or get disrupted" moment, the laughable but concerning inaccuracies generated by AI, and the critical impact on organic traffic and the open web.


    Mentions

    • AI Overviews https://developers.google.com/search/docs/appearance/ai-overviews
    • Sundar Pichai https://x.com/sundarpichai
    • Nilay Patel interview with Sundar Pichai https://www.theverge.com/24158374/google-ceo-sundar-pichai-ai-search-gemini-future-of-the-internet-web-openai-decoder-interview
    • Get HubSpot's Free AI-Powered Sales Hub: enhance support, retention, and revenue all in one place https://clickhubspot.com/3j3


    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


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    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Ai Agents: The Future Marketers You Can't Afford to Ignore May 28, 2024
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    Ep. 229

    How will AI agents revolutionize marketing strategies in 2024?

    Kipp and Kieran dive into the transformative impact of AI agents on search, content creation, and user experience. Learn more about the potential use cases for AI agents in marketing, optimizing search strategies in the age of AI, and preparing for the AI-driven future.

    Mentions

    • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/
    • Gemini https://gemini.google.com/
    • Claude https://claude.ai/
    • Get HubSpot's Free AI-Powered Sales Hub: enhance support, retention, and revenue all in one place https://clickhubspot.com/3j3


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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


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    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    The Psychological Trick Every Marketer Needs To Master Communication May 23, 2024
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    Ep. 228

    How can authenticity transform your marketing game?


    Kipp and guest Charles Duhigg (“Supercommunicators”) dive into the mental points every marketer needs to control their message.. Learn more on how authenticity shapes marketing narratives, the crucial process of selecting the right ideas to focus on, and the evolving rules of communication channels. Kipp and Charles uncover tactics for genuine vulnerability in conversations while exploring the power of storytelling to engage and connect with your audience on a deeper level.


    Mentions

    • Charles Duhigg https://www.charlesduhigg.com/
    • “Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection” https://a.co/d/7kxIQFI
    • Harvard Study of Adult Development https://www.adultdevelopmentstudy.org/
    • Get HubSpot's Free AI-Powered Sales Hub: enhance support, retention, and revenue all in one place https://clickhubspot.com/3j3


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    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


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    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Top 5 Marketing Strategies Of 2024 To 10X Business Growth May 21, 2024
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    Ep. 227

    What are the best marketing channels you should use to grow your business?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the dynamic fusion of AI technology with traditional marketing strategies to exponentially grow your business. Learn more on how AI conversion rate optimization leads the charge in changing conversion strategies, why blending product marketing with brand storytelling is crucial, and the continued relevance of SEO in organic growth.


    Mentions

    • Founders podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/founders/id1141877104
    • David Ogilvy https://www.ogilvy.com/about
    • Terence Reilly https://advertisingweek.com/terence-reilly-global-president-stanley/
    • Get HubSpot's Free AI-Powered Sales Hub: enhance support, retention, and revenue all in one place https://clickhubspot.com/3j3


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    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


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    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Gary Vee: ‘If You Don’t Do This, Your Business Won’t Exist In 5 Years’ May 16, 2024
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    Ep. 226

    Gary Vaynerchuk is challenging the traditional mindset of business and marketing.


    Kipp, Kieran and guest Gary Vaynerchuk (VaynerX) dive into the importance of organic social media. Learn more about Gary’s revolutionary insights on why staying ahead of market dynamics is crucial in the ever-changing landscape of business and marketing, why traditional Fortune 500 companies are falling behind, the significance of understanding micro consumer segments, and the rise of social influencers. He covers all this and more in his new book.


    Preorder Gary’s book, “Day Trading Attention: How to Actually Build Brand and Sales in the New Social Media World”: https://a.co/d/gEmj0HX


    Mentions

    • Gary Vaynerchuk https://garyvaynerchuk.com/
    • VaynerX https://vaynerx.com/
    • Vaynermedia https://vaynermedia.com/
    • Web 2.0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2.0
    • Wine Library https://winelibrary.com/
    • Gary’s Ted Talk https://www.ted.com/talks/gary_vaynerchuk_do_what_you_love_no_excuses
    • Get HubSpot's Free AI-Powered Sales Hub: enhance support, retention, and revenue all in one place https://clickhubspot.com/3j3


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    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


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    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


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    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    OpenAI Launches ChatGpt-4o May 14, 2024
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    Ep. 225

    How will AI redefine the future of business interactions and learning? In today's episode, Kipp boldly predicts that OpenAI's GPT-4o could usher in a new frontier in real-time communication and marketing.


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the groundbreaking features of OpenAI's latest release. Learn more on how the omnimodal capabilities of GPT-4o are set to transform customer engagement, the massive implications for voice, language learning and translation, and the potential for AI to streamline educational and training processes in unprecedented ways.


    Mentions

    • GPT-4o https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/
    • Duolingo https://www.duolingo.com/
    • Hume https://www.hume.ai/
    • Get HubSpot's Free AI-Powered Sales Hub: enhance support, retention, and revenue all in one place https://clickhubspot.com/3j3


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

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    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

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    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


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