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    Marketing Against The Grain

    Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot’s SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.

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    The AI Strategy That Doubled His Email Conversion Rate (Step By Step) Dec 10, 2024
    Show notes

    Ep. 284

    What if AI could double your email conversion rates overnight?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the revolutionary AI strategies that are transforming the way we approach email marketing, featuring insights from Dan Wolchonok of Reforge. Learn more on how leveraging proprietary data can create hyper-personalized emails for increased engagement, the importance of seamlessly integrating AI solutions into existing workflows, and the innovative use of AI-generated content to make compelling email campaigns.


    Mentions

    • Dan Wolchonok https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwolchonok/
    • Reforge https://www.reforge.com/
    • Grammarly https://www.grammarly.com/
    • Andrej Karpathy https://karpathy.ai/
    • Button Down AI Newsletter https://buttondown.com/ainews


    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt


    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research


    Resource

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    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

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    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.



    Copy ANY Writing Style with AI in 30 Seconds (Step-by-Step) Dec 05, 2024
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    Ep. 283

    Can AI truly mimic any writing style in under 30 seconds?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into transforming your content by leveraging AI's incredible capabilities. Learn more on creating detailed audience guides, customizing content with specific styles, and using AI to enhance productivity and profitability.


    Mentions

    • ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/
    • Claude https://claude.ai/
    • Packy McCormick https://www.linkedin.com/in/packym/


    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt


    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research


    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

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    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    How to Win at Search When AI is Changing Everything Dec 03, 2024
    Show notes

    Ep. 282

    Is Google dead as a traffic source for marketers?


    Kipp, Kieran, and Ross Simmonds (founder & CEO of Foundation) dive into how AI is redefining search and the steps you need to take to stay ahead in this shifting landscape. Learn more on leveraging AI to boost human skills, tapping into untapped keywords for early-stage businesses, and maximizing Reddit as a high-trust traffic source.


    Mentions

    • Ross Simmonds https://rosssimmonds.com/
    • Foundation https://foundationinc.co/
    • Claude https://claude.ai/
    • Descript https://www.descript.com/
    • Riverside https://riverside.fm/
    • ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/
    • Quora https://www.quora.com/


    Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt


    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research


    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

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    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    How She Scaled an AI App to 3M Visitors/Mo Using AI SEO ft Chang Chen Nov 26, 2024
    Show notes

    Ep. 281

    Can AI really drive 3 million visitors a month to your site?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the revolutionary impact of AI on SEO and modern marketing strategies with expert Chang Chen. Learn more about leveraging AI to handle repetitive tasks and enhance one-to-one user personalization, recognizing the shift in content strategy towards influence and impressions over clicks, and discovering the essential workflows and tools for efficient and high-quality content creation.


    Mentions

    • Chang Chen https://www.linkedin.com/in/ccchangchen/
    • Webflow https://webflow.com/
    • AirOps https://www.airops.com/
    • AI for Growth and Marketing https://www.hockeystick.io/ai-for-growth-and-marketing


    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research


    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod


    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.



    I lost 30% search traffic to AI… What do I do? Nov 21, 2024
    Show notes

    Ep. 280

    Are you seeing a decline in SEO traffic?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the disruptive impact AI-powered search engines are having on traditional SEO and how marketers can adapt to this transformative shift. Learn more about predicting future search trends, the role of AI in providing comprehensive answers without directing traffic to individual pages, and actionable strategies for diversifying your traffic sources to mitigate the impact.


    Mentions

    • Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/
    • Claude https://claude.ai/
    • ChatGPT https://openai.com/index/chatgpt/


    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research


    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod


    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    We Built a GAME-CHANGING AI Sales Agent in Slack (Step-by-Step) Nov 19, 2024
    Show notes

    Ep 279

    Is marketing becoming more engineer-led?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into building a game-changing AI sales agent in Slack with guest Horacio Lopez (Business Operations, Replit). Learn more on the intricacies of API integration, the seamless experience with Replit's AI assistant, and optimizing email outreach using enriched data.


    Mentions

    • Horacio Lopez https://www.linkedin.com/in/horacio-lopez/
    • Replit https://replit.com/
    • Replit AI SDR template: https://replit.com/guides/ai-sdr-slack-bot
    • Collin Matthews article: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/become-a-more-technical-product-manager
    • Code concepts site: https://codeconceptsforsalesandmarketing.replit.app


    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research


    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod


    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    The Marketing Tactics I Used to Build & Sell a $100M Brand Nov 14, 2024
    Show notes

    Ep. 278

    Is focusing on short-term ROAS holding your brand back?


    Kieran and Kipp dive into the big picture of long-term brand building over immediate financial gains, sharing insights from Preston Rutherford's (Co Founder of Chubbies) journey to building and selling a $100M brand. Learn more on avoiding the pitfalls of short-term thinking, the importance of blending creative and media functions, and the benefits of producing high-quality, in-house content for sustained brand awareness.


    Mentions

    • Preston Rutherford https://www.linkedin.com/in/prestonr/
    • Chubbies https://www.chubbiesshorts.com/
    • Marathon https://www.marathondataco.com/
    • Shopify https://www.shopify.com/


    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you! https://bit.ly/matg-research


    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod


    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Will Google's AI Experiment Replace Search Engines? Nov 12, 2024
    Show notes

    Ep. 277

    Can Google's AI experiment render traditional search engines obsolete?


    Kipp and Kieran dive into the potential transformative impact of AI on search engines and user experience in this episode. Learn more on the integration of AI into search and its implications, the latest innovations like Search GPT and Google's Learn About, and strategies for marketers to thrive amidst evolving search technologies.


    Mentions

    • Google’s Learn About https://learning.google.com/experiments/learn-about/signup
    • NotebookLM https://notebooklm.google/
    • SearchGPT https://chatgpt.com/search


    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip



    We’re creating our next round of content and want to ensure it tackles the challenges you’re facing at work or in your business.

    To understand your biggest challenges we’ve put together a survey and we’d love to hear from you!

    How to Participate:

    • click the link https://bit.ly/matg-research


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod


    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Revealing the 2024 Marketing Strategy of a $200M Founder Nov 07, 2024
    Show notes

    Ep. 276

    How can AI tools revolutionize your marketing strategy and give you a competitive edge?


    Kip and Kieran dive into the future of AI-driven marketing and how a $200M founder uses these tools to stay ahead with Ryan Deiss (The Scalable Company). Learn more on transforming unstructured customer data into valuable insights, creating and testing style guides efficiently with AI, and rediscovering the crucial art of copywriting in today's digital landscape.


    Mentions

    • Ryan Deiss https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryandeiss/
    • The Scalable Company https://scalable.co/
    • Warrior Forum https://www.warriorforum.com/


    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod


    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


    Surprising AI-Marketing Opportunities Driving INSANE Results ft. Neil Patel & Eric Siu Nov 05, 2024
    Show notes

    Ep. 275

    Are the AI-driven opportunities really driving insane results?


    This week we dive into the surprising AI-marketing strategies that are reshaping the landscape with Neil Patel and Eric Siu of the Marketing School podcast. Every marketer can revolutionize their approach by embracing AI tools, diversifying their SEO efforts, and repurposing content across multiple platforms. Learn more on the evolving definition of SEO, the importance of an omnichannel strategy, and the future of marketing in the AI era.


    Mentions

    • Neil Patel https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilkpatel/
    • Eric Siu https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericosiu/
    • Marketing School Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-school-digital-marketing-and-online/id1138869817
    • Accenture https://www.accenture.com/
    • Napkin AI https://www.napkin.ai/


    Resource

    • [Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip


    We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed

    YouTube: ​​https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGtXqPiNV8YC0GMUzY-EUFg

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/matgpod

    TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matgpod


    Join our community https://landing.connect.com/matg


    Thank you for tuning into Marketing Against The Grain!


    Don’t forget to hit subscribe and follow us on Apple Podcasts (so you never miss an episode)! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marketing-against-the-grain/id1616700934


    If you love this show, please leave us a 5-Star Review https://link.chtbl.com/h9_sjBKH and share your favorite episodes with friends.


    We really appreciate your support.


    Host Links:

    Kipp Bodnar, https://twitter.com/kippbodnar

    Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat


    ‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Produced by Darren Clarke.


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