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    FRIED. The Burnout Podcast

    Your best people aren't lazy. They're burned out. And there's a difference — one that costs you performance, retention, and culture if you can't spot it.

    FRIED: The Burnout Podcast is a top 1% global show with over a million downloads, hosted by keynote speaker and burnout expert Cait Donovan. It's the show for leaders, executives, HR professionals, and high-responsibility humans who want to understand burnout at a systems level — not just survive it personally.

    The core question FRIED keeps asking: Where is the work no longer matching the humans doing it?

    Burnout isn't a motivation problem. It's a mismatch problem. When the fit between people, roles, expectations, and organizational systems breaks down — disengagement builds, resentment festers, and your best people start quietly planning their exit. FRIED helps you see those mismatches before they become crises.

    Each week you'll get expert conversations on workplace burnout, leadership, organizational culture, employee retention, and sustainable high performance — plus solo episodes where Cait breaks down the hidden dynamics driving disengagement in even the highest-performing teams.

    No blame. No fluff. No breathing exercises you didn't ask for.

    Topics covered: burnout prevention, chronic stress, leadership development, workplace culture, employee disengagement, resentment at work, emotional intelligence, nervous system regulation, boundaries, organizational design, psychological safety, and middle management burnout.

    FRIED. Because burnout isn't the price of ambition. It's a signal that something needs to change.

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    Copyright: © All works owned and produced by Cait Donovan LLC, 2022

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    #straightfromcait: Burnt Out and Feel Like Your Spiritual Practices are Broken? You're Not Alone. Jul 26, 2020
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    Hi FRIED Friends!


    LINK: bit.ly/callcait


    You’ve found yourself right in the beginning of a #straightfromcait episode and I’m so grateful that you’re here.


    Your time, and your listening energy is so appreciated and my biggest hope is that the information you get by being here is worth every last second. I really do my best to be sure that’s the truth!


    We’re at the end of July now and holy shit, it’s almost August 2020. Can you even? I cannot.

    In August, I will celebrate my 38th Birthday (I love my birthday, so get ready to hear about it a few times in the coming episodes ;)) and let me tell you, I’m not where I thought I’d be.


    Growing up, I knew I’d do something a little different, I was always a little left of center when it came to my choices, my friends, my style, and my ideas. And even though this was always a part of me, I felt too far away from center for a long time. As a pre-med student who turned to Chinese medicine instead, and as an American living abroad, and then as an author of a book and a podcast on a topic that no one used to talk about - it seems like I’m always at tne edges.


    Living on that edge, making the different choice, following my heart sometimes left me defensive and in a state where I had to PROVE to everyone that I wasn’t crazy, that acupuncture worked, that life coaching matters, that the work I do is POWERFUL and transformational even if other people didn’t understand it.


    It’ll be no surprise to you, as a FRIED The Burnout Podcast listener, that this constant need to prove my value because I was not in the mainstream was part of my burnout. I realized this past week that is no longer the case. Not only do I not have anything to prove (I’ve already done the uber successful bit) but I’m so glad to be on the edges. I like living here in the world of personal development, spirituality, alternative medicine, energy healing, quantum physics and all of it.


    Even when I don’t agree with it all, I love it and I love being a part of it.


    That’s why, when I was totally burnt out, I was reallly frustrated. I would read things on manifestation and the law of attraction and mindset and positive thinking and want to throw something against a wall - it all sounded like bullshit to me, even though I’d experienced it earlier in my life.


    When I was burnt out, it was because I was not in my OWN mainstream, not in my OWN center. I was trying too hard to be ‘good enough’ for everyone and everything else that I left myself behind.


    When you do that, you’re spending an awful lot of time in your left brain and you’re missing the magic, the energy, the creativeness, and the connectedness that your right brain has to offer. When they’re both working, both the left and right sides of your brain, when they’re connected, when they’re communicating properly - the magic comes back. This is when you can use gratitude journals instead of resentment journals and manifestation alongside your goal setting.





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    Whitney Goodman, LMFT: A Therapist Bares All About Dealing With The Underlying Beliefs That Lead Us To Overperform Jul 19, 2020
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    In today’s episode, we’re talking to Whitney Goodman, a licensed marriage and family therapist and owner of The Collaborative Counselling Center in Miami, FL. She provides counseling to individuals and couples who want better relationships and to heal from the hurt in their past.

    During our conversation, she shares her own burnout story, that happened really early on in her life and career and how she felt like a failure being a mental health professional herself. After being told “you’re too young to be burnt out”, she decided to leave her job and go out on her own, quickly realizing that burnout was happening because of the structural inequities at her job and the lack of support in her own life and not because she chose the wrong profession.

    We also talk about toxic positivity and why you need to avoid it (despite what social media is telling you), people pleasing and the good, the bad and the ugly of boundaries!

    I truly enjoyed speaking with Whitney and this episode is chock full of so much goodness, that I’m curious: What is one thing that you KNOW you need to start implementing in your life?

    Both Whitney and I would love to know, so please share and tag us on social media so we can support and cheer for you!

    Connect with Cait

    Website: www.caitdonovan.com/

    Instagram: www.instagram.com/friedtheburnoutpodcast/

    Pre-Order My Book: https://bit.ly/bouncebackorder/

    Connect with Whitney

    Website: https://www.thecollaborativecounselingcenter.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sitwithwhit/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CollaborativeCounselingMiami/

    Courses: https://sitwithwhit.mykajabi.com/store/

    Xo

    Cait

    P.S. Do something to care for yourself this week and book a FREE call with me! Initial calls last 35 minutes and are a great way to kickstart your burnout recovery. Book your call at caitdonovan.as.me/free/

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    #straightfromcait: The Most Transformative Emotion for Burnout Recovery and Boundary Building Jul 12, 2020
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    In this week’s episode of FRIED: The Burnout Podcast, you’re getting a #straightfromcait episode about my favorite emotion and my favorite topic. I often say that things are my favorite topic because there are so many things I love to talk about (I was BORN to podcast, even if it didn’t exist yet back then ;)). But this one really takes the cake.


    Because I said it’s my favorite emotion, you might think I’m talking Gratitude, or JOY, Happiness, or Humorous. I love all of those too, but there’s one that I ReALLY love and I love it for it’s transformative properties. I love it because no one else talks about it. I love it because working with it is SO SO SO Powerful.


    So, what’s my favorite emotion?


    Resentment!


    Some of you may have guessed that because I do have a course that helps you transform Resentment - it’s called The Resentment Journal mini course and for just $27 bucks, you can save yourself years of wasted energy and become an boundary building master.

    You'll find the shownotes for this episode at:


    https://www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/sfc-resentment

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    Kara Pepper, MD: An MD Tells The Truth About Rebuilding Her Life After Burning Out Jul 05, 2020
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    In today’s episode of Fried, we’re talking to Dr. Kara Pepper, practicing primary care Internist in Atlanta, GA, and a life coach for physicians struggling with burnout, transition, imposter syndrome and perfectionism. A recovering perfectionist herself, she coaches doctors through their own burnout and transition and helps them to love the life they worked so hard to create. She is a wife, mom, yogi and westie lover.

    She shares her story of how she went from being a Professional ballet dancer in her teens to becoming a leading physician. She opens up about how she used workaholism to mute her feelings since childhood and although she’d built a great looking life on paper, underneath it all she was miserable and barely holding it together. After her in-laws’ deaths, she crashed and burned out, couldn't keep the pieces of her life together and while she fantasized about running away and leaving it all behind, she finally took a sabbatical that would allow her to rebuild a life that was meaningful, sustainable, and connected.

    We talk a lot about making changes in areas that you can actually control,separating the external and internal causes of burnout and focusing on what you actually can change first, gaining energy from that and then moving on to the rest. This talk is so damn important right now as we continue to move through COVID and physician and nurse and hospital worker burnout is going through the roof!

    Share this one with all of your medicine based friends, they need to know that they are not alone! We've got their backs and that there is help out there!

    Connect with Dr. Kara Pepper

    Website: https://www.KaraPepperMD.com

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/karapeppermd

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kara-pepper-2555b42/

    Connect with Cait Donovan

    Website: https://www.caitdonovan.com/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/friedtheburnoutpodcast/

    Resentment Journal for $27 only: https://www.caitdonovan.com/resentment-journal

    Do something to care for yourself this week and book a FREE call with me! Initial calls last 35 minutes and are a great way to kickstart your burnout recovery. Book your call at caitdonovan.as.me/free.

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    #straightfromcait: Sometimes, Feeling Like Shit Is The Only Option (and that's okay too) Jun 28, 2020
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    In this week's #straightfromcait, I'm reading to you from my book, The Bouncebackability Factor. I think this passage is important for today because it is all about sitting in the muck when we feel like shit, not spiritually bypassing our problems, and not finding silver linings before it's too soon.


    Right now, amidst coronavirus and the very necessary renewed talks on racism, the energy is heavy - and before we try to shake it off, we need to allow it time to process. The passage that I read from the book this week should help you understand why.


    If you're stock full of resentments and you're stuck in them, I have a new tool for you! It's The Resentment Journal Mini-Course and it's a $27, 17-page fill in able pdf workbook for your emotional transformation pleasure.

    It even got me an article in Forbes recently, so you know it's good stuff ;)


    You can grab your copy of the Resentment Journal here:

    https://www.caitdonovan.com/resentment-journal


    And, if you know you need more support than that, you can always book a free consult to find out how I can help :)


    https://www.caitdonovan.as.me/free


    My ears are ready for your story <3

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    Deepshikha Sairam: Non-Stop Sacrifice is Not The Secret To Success According to This Business Mentor. Find Out What Is... Jun 21, 2020
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    Episode Description S02E11

    In this episode we’re talking to Deepshikha Sairam, a Business Mentor and Lead Generation Expert for female entrepreneurs who want to grow and scale a profitable online business with high quality consistent leads and recurring revenue, organically.

    In this episode Deepshikha shares her story of leaving the corporate world to start her own business, leveraging her skills and talents to build a winning company, which was earning six figures by its second year and how she kept it all going and growing with two young children. In fact, this feat so intrigued the award-winning show, Marie TV, that they had to run a feature on Deepshikha! She also reveals how she was burning herself out to keep all the plates spinning, working continuously and ended up in the ER more than once!

    She talks about spirituality in business, how she incorporated rest in her work for even greater profits and why she values self care for herself and her clients.

    In addition to offering one-on-one consulting and online group programs, Deepshikha has also guest lectured at Elephant Journal Academy teaching Instagram Marketing. She has been featured in Tiny Buddha and Elephant Journal. She lives in New Jersey with her husband and two boys.

    You can Connect with Deepshikha below

    https://socialiquegroupe.lpages.co/consistent-organic-leads/

    https://www.instagram.com/deepshikhasairam/

    https://www.facebook.com/socialique/

    XOXO

    C

    P.S. Remember Nadovim? The supplement specifically designed for burnt-out brains? If you’re foggy-headed and feel like your memory just isn’t the same, you should get 20% off your first 30-day supply at www.nadovim.com by entering the coupon code BURNOUT.

    P.P.S. Do something to care for yourself this week and book a FREE call with me! Initial calls last 35 minutes and are a great way to kickstart your burnout recovery. Book your call at caitdonovan.as.me/free.

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    #straightfromcait: What Your Burnout Is Trying To Tell You Jun 14, 2020
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    You asked: What is my burnout trying to tell me? And I answered in this week's #straightfromcait episode!


    Within this episode you'll hear my real feelings about 'everything happens for a reason' and you'll hear all 7 reasons you burn out that made it into The Bouncebackability Factor, the book I wrote for you due out late this summer/early fall!


    Values exercise mentioned in this episode you can grab here:

    https://caitdonovan.com/freebie-values


    When you're ready to take a giant leap toward ending your burnout cycle, you can book your free consult here:

    bit.ly/callcait


    Talk soon!

    XOXO

    C

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    Kelsey Patel: Wellness Expert Teaches You How Small Changes Create Radical Shifts and Help You Burn Bright Right Now May 31, 2020
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    In this week’s episode we are speaking to Kelsey J Patel, one of Hollywood’s leading wellness and reiki experts. She is not only a sought after spiritual empowerment coach, yoga teacher, reiki healer and meditation teacher, but also a multi-faceted entrepreneur and inspirational speaker.

    Having worked for a senator on Capitol Hill and in the communications department at a Fortune 500 company, she sought validation and fulfillment through work, believing she was chasing success but all she got was crippling back pain and debilitating anxiety. So, after taking a leap of faith to move to LA, she started experimenting with healing modalities after hitting the "Why not?!" stage.

    That radical shift started her journey of exploring movement and energy practices that have now taken her to dizzying heights and she believes in paying it forward by sharing them, as a teacher and author, with as many people as possible!

    She is the author of the newly published Burning Bright: Rituals, Reiki, and Self-Care to Heal Burnout, Anxiety, and Stress available wherever books are sold.

    In this episode we discuss her journey to and through burnout, the small but significant changes that have helped her and her clients ditch the fatigue and overwhelm and her definition of Radical Shifts and why they are essential to breaking from the Burnout Hamster Wheel.

    You can Connect with Kelsey below

    https://www.kelseyjpatel.com

    https://www.instagram.com/kelseyjpatel/

    https://www.facebook.com/kelseyjpatel/

    XOXO

    C

    P.S. Remember Nadovim? The supplement specifically designed for burnt-out brains? If you’re foggy-headed and feel like your memory just isn’t the same, you should get 20% off your first 30-day supply at www.nadovim.com by entering the coupon code BURNOUT.

    P.P.S. Do something to care for yourself this week and book a FREE call with me! Initial calls last 35 minutes and are a great way to kickstart your burnout recovery. Book your call at caitdonovan.as.me/free.

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    #straightfromcait: When You're Burnt Out and Overwhelmed, How do You Start to Heal? May 24, 2020
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    So, here’s the Q: I’m burnt out and overwhelmed, how do I start to heal?

    This is a massively important question and I’ll tell you what I realized recently on some free consults - most of the time, there is a physical component of your burnout that needs to be dealt with BEFORE you head into the inner boundaries, mindset, proper energy spending, and unraveling trauma (and and and).

    This means that just last week, I shifted my offer to allow people the chance to use basic Chinese medical techniques and nutrition on themselves to create more physical health before we dive into our ‘coaching’ work.

    One of the biggest issues I see in the burnout world, and honestly the coaching world at large, is that we have ignored the physical body. Now, don’t go mental on me, I know that your mental and emotional state has an effect on the physical body AND at the same time, I know that if your body is spending 40 out of 100 units of your daily energy on brain fog because you’re not drinking enough water, I’d rather have you up your h2o intake for 3-4 weeks and allow that to clear. This means that when we start coaching, you have as much energy as possible available to actually do this work.


    Download the e-book: caitdonovan.com/freebie

    Book a call: caitdonovan.as.me/free

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    Dr. Valerie Rein: Break out of Burnout Jail by Creating Space for Your Most Authentic Self May 17, 2020
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    In this week’s episode we are speaking to Dr. Valerie Rein, a highly sought after speaker and trainer who has helped thousands of women. She discovered Patriarchy Stress Disorder (PSD) and created the only science-backed system for helping women achieve their ultimate success, happiness, and fulfillment by healing the generational trauma of patriarchal oppression. She holds an EdM in Psychological Counseling from Columbia University and a PhD in Psychology from the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology. Her bestselling book, “Patriarchy Stress Disorder: The Invisible Inner Barrier to Women’s Happiness and Fulfillment” and her cutting-edge programs have helped thousands of women shift from surviving to thriving and master the game of "How good can it get?"

    Join us as we talk about the ways in which PSD showed up in her life, the lessons she’s learnt from doing this work, how PSD and burnout are interconnected and how we can start to turn this around, one woman at a time, starting with ourselves.

    LINKS:

    Website: www.drvalerie.com/

    Instagram: www.instagram.com/drvalerierein/

    www.drvalerie.com/book-resources/ for Dr. Valerie’s Book Resources

    XOXO

    C

    P.S. Remember Nadovim? The supplement specifically designed for burnt-out brains? If you’re foggy-headed and feel like your memory just isn’t the same, you should get 20% off your first 30-day supply at www.nadovim.com by entering the coupon code BURNOUT.

    P.P.S. Do something to care for yourself this week and book a FREE call with me! Initial calls last 35 minutes and are a great way to kickstart your burnout recovery. Book your call at caitdonovan.as.me/free.

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


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