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    Free as in Freedom

    A bi-weekly discussion of legal, policy, and other issues in the open source and software freedom community (including occasional interviews) from Brooklyn, New York, USA. Presented by Karen Sandler and Bradley M. Kuhn.

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    Copyright: © 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, Free as in Freedom. Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 USA License.

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    Latest Episodes:
    Episode 0x3B: FOSDEM 2013: Should We Embrace App Stores? Apr 11, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Simon Phipps' and Amanda Brock's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Should We Embrace App Stores?.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:33)

    Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

    Segment 1 (00:03:03)

    • Simon and Amanda used no slides during their talk.
    • Amanda misquotes Bradley at 07:30. Bradley said: An unenforced copyleft is the moral equivalent of a permissive license, not that you give a license automatically not by enforcing. You can listen to FaiF Episode 0x38 to verify.

    Segment 1 (00:49:35)

    Bradley and Karen discuss the talk.

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x3A: FOSDEM 2013: FOSS Code Goes In And Never Comes Out Apr 03, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Gabriel Holloway's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled FOSS code goes in and never comes out: The Challenge of Sandboxed Proprietary Cloud Services.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:33)

    Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

    Segment 1 (00:05:48)

    The speaker's that you hear are:

    • Gabriel Holloway, who gives the talk
    • Till Jaeger asks the first question.
    • A few other questions are asked, but we're unsure who the speakers are.
    • Tom Marble, asks a question later.

    Unfortunately, Gabe didn't provide us with slides.

    Segment 2 (00:52:25)

    • Bradley mentioned the Berne Convention on Copyright. (01:07:19)
    • Karen mentioned Cooper Union and how they are in danger of running out of money for their full tuition scholarships. (01:10:00)
    • Bradley looked but couldn't find the NPR story about terms of use. (01:19:37)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x39: FOSDEM 2013: What is a Derivative Work under European Copyright Law? Mar 26, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Till Jaeger's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled What is a derivative work under European Copyright Law?.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:31)

    Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

    Segment 2 (00:02:41)

    The speaker's that you hear are:

    • Tom Marble, introduces the talk, and asks one of the questions.
    • Till Jaeger, who gives the talk

    The slides for Till Jaeger's talk are available.

    Segment 2 (00:49:11)

    • Bradley and Karen discuss Till's talk.
    • Clarence Thomas spoke the first time in the Supreme Court. Bradley said that he said it did not, but apparently he actually said he did not. (59:49)
    • Bradley scanned in his Brussels airport train ticket that had his notes on it, where you can read noa push caa. (01:06:40)
    • Bradley mentioned the phrase Elvis has left the building. (01:07:15)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x38: FOSDEM 2013: GPL Compliance Panel Mar 19, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss the GPL Compliance Panel from FOSDEM 2013.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:34)

    Karen and Bradley have some not-so-witty banter about the FOSDEM 2013 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

    Segment 1 (00:07:19)

    The speakers on the panel are (in order of appearance):

    • Tom Marble, introduces the panel.
    • Karen Sandler, moderator.
    • Alexios Zavras
    • Richard Sands
    • Bradley M. Kuhn
    • Harald Welte

    Segment 2 (01:02:51)

    • Bradley mentioned the Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons, but incorrectly said he didn't have an actual name, which he does (Jeff Albertson) (01:05:30)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x37: Copyright Assignment Again Feb 13, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley discuss the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance and other issues related to copyright assignment.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:46)

    • Bradley didn't want his words compared to the Ayn Rand's quote from an interview with Phil Donahue where she said I'm not going to die, it's just that world will end. (02:54)
    • Bradley discussed the reaction to on 0x36 that occurred in this identi.ca thread. (04:20)
    • Bradley and Karen discussed the LWN article, GnuTLS, copyright assignment, and GNU project governance. (11:15)
    • Bradley pointed out that every other copyleft license allows for relicensing under newer versions automatically (i.e., they have an automatic -or-later ), and Karen asked whether Sun's CDDL does. Bradley checked later, Karen was correct that CDDL's later version clause (Section 4) is similar to the GPL policy. (23:00) However, Fontana wrote to us on IRC to say CDDL's license upgradeability clause is not entirely like GPL's. The GPL states that if no version number is specified, any version can be used. CDDL does not say this; it seems to assume that it will always be clear what version CDDL code will be distributed under, whereas GPL seems to assume otherwise.
    • Bradley mentioned the interview he did with The H Online on GPL enforcement. (41:57)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x36: RMS' Ubuntu Essay and Canonical, Ltd.'s Response Dec 18, 2012
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    Karen and Bradley discuss RMS' essay on FSF's website, Ubuntu SpyWare: What To Do, and Shuttleworth's Slashdot interview that responds somewhat to RMS' comments.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:36)

    • Karen and Bradley discuss RMS' essay on FSF's website, Ubuntu SpyWare: What To Do (08:50)
    • Bradley mentioned how Fab discovered (and discussed on Linux Outlaws 280) how a search for “ter” in efforts to find a terminal window in Ubuntu yields [slightly NSFW] gives results for Rachel Ter Horst DVDs. (09:44)
    • Bradley mentioned his blog post about Nokia's problems interfacing with Free Software communities. (14:50)
    • Bradley and Karen discuss Shuttleworth's Slashdot interview (18:25).
    • Bradley and Karen also briefly mentioned Jono Bacon's comments about RMS's essay and Jono's apology. (19:30)
    • Bradley mentioned Shuttleworth's comments during his LinuxCon 2011 keynote. (20:14)
    • Bradley mentioned Douglas Rushkoff's article, Teach U.S. kids to write computer code (29:30)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x35: Oracle vs. Google Copyright Decision Dec 05, 2012
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    Karen and Bradley discuss the copyright decision in the Oracle vs. Google case.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:33)

    • Bradley mentioned the BPM for the human heart is to the Bee Gee's song, STayin' Alive. (01:55)
    • FaiF's bandwidth is provided by OSU-OSL. Please donate to OSU-OSL. (09:50)
    • Bradley and Karen discuss the copyright decision in the Oracle vs. Google case. (12:26)
    • Bradley couldn't find quickly a full telling of the windings/SCO font thing, but this blog mentions it (29:34)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x34: Medical Devices Update Nov 22, 2012
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    Karen gives an update on the advocacy of software freedom for medical devices, while Bradley continually takes the show off-topic.

    Show Notes:

    • Bradley mentioned Jimmy Fallon's … And We're Back script.
    • Barnaby Jack showed lethal attacks exist on wireless devices. (06:25)
    • Karen previously gave a talk about her heart condition on the show. (07:13)
    • Hugo Campos, who also works on this issue. (26:08)
    • Bradley mentioned the Therac-25 software-related disaster. (29:30)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x33: Richard Fontana at LinuxCon North America 2012 Oct 10, 2012
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    Karen and Bradley play and discuss Richard Fontana's LinuxCon North America 2012 talk, The Tragedy of the Commons Gatekeepers.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:33)

    Bradley and Karen introduce Richard Fontana's talk.

    Segment 1 (02:48)

    Richard Fontana's slides are available online, and there is also a well-written summary of the talk available on LWN.

    Segment 2 (47:15)

    Karen and Bradley discuss Fontana's talk.

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x32: Matthew Garrett on UEFI at LinuxCon North America 2012 Sep 27, 2012
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    Karen and Bradley play and discuss Matthew Garrett's talk, Linux in a UEFI Secure Boot World talk from LinuxCon North America 2012.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:34)

    • Bradley mentioned that people at LinuxCon North America 2012 were talking about this article, wherein it states 51% of survey respondents believe [bad] weather can impact cloud computing. Bradley and Karen pointed out all the many ways that it can, such as if your services come via satellite links. (02:10)
    • Bradley mentioned Matthew's talk might be best listened to before our earlier FaiFCast 0x2d about UEFI and Restricted Boot, as Matthew's talk is a very good introduction to that material (07:01)

    Segment 1 (08:43)

    The slides from Matthew Garrett's LinuxCon North America 2012 talk, Linux in a UEFI Secure Boot World are available.

    Segment 2 (51:35)

    • Karen song a part of one of the OpenBSD songs, E-Railed (OpenBSD Mix). (01:00:35)
    • Bradley mentioned Theo de Raadt's comments regarding restricted boot. (01:00:44)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


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