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A bi-weekly discussion of legal, policy, and other issues in the open source and software freedom community (including occasional interviews) from Brooklyn, New York, USA. Presented by Karen Sandler and Bradley M. Kuhn.

Copyright: © 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, Free as in Freedom. Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 USA License.

Latest Episodes:

[Direct download of cast in Ogg/Vorbis
format] — 0x27: FOSDEM 2012: Randal's Legal Hygiene Apr 25, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss Allison Randal's FOSDEM 2012 talk, FLOSSing for Good Legal Hygiene: Stories from the Trenches from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley talked about the #faif IRC conversation regarding hot milk recipe and its copyright. (01:54)

Segment 1 (07:10)

Allison's slides are available from faif.us.

Segment 2 (35:00)

Karen and Bradley discussed the insanely complicated poster that Eclipse developers have to put on their walls to know how to accept patches (37:40)

RMS's GNU Project essay talks about the Qt problem. (39:16)

Bradley mentioned Chris Hertel's appearance on Linux Outlaws.(44:25)

Karen mentioned The Scientific American article entitled Secret Computer Code Threatens Science. (54:00)

Bradley mentioned Roland McGrath (56:44)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in MP3 format] — 0x27: FOSDEM 2012: Randal's Legal Hygiene Apr 25, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss Allison Randal's FOSDEM 2012 talk, FLOSSing for Good Legal Hygiene: Stories from the Trenches from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley talked about the #faif IRC conversation regarding hot milk recipe and its copyright. (01:54)

Segment 1 (07:10)

Allison's slides are available from faif.us.

Segment 2 (35:00)

Karen and Bradley discussed the insanely complicated poster that Eclipse developers have to put on their walls to know how to accept patches (37:40)

RMS's GNU Project essay talks about the Qt problem. (39:16)

Bradley mentioned Chris Hertel's appearance on Linux Outlaws.(44:25)

Karen mentioned The Scientific American article entitled Secret Computer Code Threatens Science. (54:00)

Bradley mentioned Roland McGrath (56:44)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in Ogg/Vorbis
format] — 0x26: FOSDEM 2012: Meeks on Copyright Assignment Apr 13, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss Michael Meeks's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Risks and Benefits of Copyright Assignment from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley and Karen introduce Michael's talk.

Segment 1 (01:56)

Michael's slides are available from faif.us and from his blog post on the talk.

Segment 2 (26:47)

Bradley mentioned GNU Mediagoblin as an example of a true upstream multi-copyright-holder AGPLv3'd project. (28:10)

Bradley mentioned that LibreOffice is “wealthy” as well by Michael Meeks standards, given their successful fundraisers. (29:38)

Bradley mentioned the Desktop Summit panel that he and Michael were on and Karen moderated. (34:06)

Bradley and Michael co-authored (with Vincent Untz) the GNOME Copyright Assignment Guidelines. (35:30)

FSF was previously supportive of MySQL AB back in 2002, but Michael also used to support the Sun JCA. (38:20)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in MP3 format] — 0x26: FOSDEM 2012: Meeks on Copyright Assignment Apr 13, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss Michael Meeks's FOSDEM 2012 talk, Risks and Benefits of Copyright Assignment from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley and Karen introduce Michael's talk.

Segment 1 (01:56)

Michael's slides are available from faif.us and from his blog post on the talk.

Segment 2 (26:47)

Bradley mentioned GNU Mediagoblin as an example of a true upstream multi-copyright-holder AGPLv3'd project. (28:10)

Bradley mentioned that LibreOffice is “wealthy” as well by Michael Meeks standards, given their successful fundraisers. (29:38)

Bradley mentioned the Desktop Summit panel that he and Michael were on and Karen moderated. (34:06)

Bradley and Michael co-authored (with Vincent Untz) the GNOME Copyright Assignment Guidelines. (35:30)

FSF was previously supportive of MySQL AB back in 2002, but Michael also used to support the Sun JCA. (38:20)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in Ogg/Vorbis
format] — 0x25: FOSDEM 2012 Patents Panel Mar 29, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss Panel on Patents, moderated by Karen Sandler, with Ciarán O'Riordan, Benjamin Henrion, and Deb Nicholson from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

This American Life issued a retraction of the story we mentioned on 0x24. This American Life released a transcript or mp3 of the audio of the retraction. (02:21)

Karen and Bradley introduce the panel.

Segment 1 (03:58)

This is the recording of the panel. Some of the questions aren't completely audible, but Dan did a pretty good job boosting it in places.

Segment 2 (32:21)

IBM's amicus brief in Bilski clearly shows that IBM is pro-software patent. (33:48)

The Linux System Definition which defines the only patents available for licensing by OIN licensees, was unilaterally updated recently without consulting the Free Software community.

Keith Bergelt of OIN will speak at Linux Collaboration 2012 on the Legal track, which Bradley is chairing (35:29)

OIN is a for-profit company. (37:54)

IBM has attacked Free Software projects with patents, such as TurboHercules (39:22)

IBM is the largest software patent holder in the world. (44:27)

Red Hat refuses to grant a patent license for patent use in Free software, they have only a weak promise that allows them to sell of patents to others who may enforce against Free Software projects, or which could be revoked. (46:26)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in MP3 format] — 0x25: FOSDEM 2012 Patents Panel Mar 29, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss Panel on Patents, moderated by Karen Sandler, with Ciarán O'Riordan, Benjamin Henrion, and Deb Nicholson from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

This American Life issued a retraction of the story we mentioned on 0x24. This American Life released a transcript or mp3 of the audio of the retraction. (02:21)

Karen and Bradley introduce the panel.

Segment 1 (03:58)

This is the recording of the panel. Some of the questions aren't completely audible, but Dan did a pretty good job boosting it in places.

Segment 2 (32:21)

IBM's amicus brief in Bilski clearly shows that IBM is pro-software patent. (33:48)

The Linux System Definition which defines the only patents available for licensing by OIN licensees, was unilaterally updated recently without consulting the Free Software community.

Keith Bergelt of OIN will speak at Linux Collaboration 2012 on the Legal track, which Bradley is chairing (35:29)

OIN is a for-profit company. (37:54)

IBM has attacked Free Software projects with patents, such as TurboHercules (39:22)

IBM is the largest software patent holder in the world. (44:27)

Red Hat refuses to grant a patent license for patent use in Free software, they have only a weak promise that allows them to sell of patents to others who may enforce against Free Software projects, or which could be revoked. (46:26)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in Ogg/Vorbis
format] — 0x24: App Store Panel Mar 13, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss Panel on Application Stores, moderated by Richard Fontana, with Giovanni Battista Gallus, Bradley M. Kuhn, and Hugo Roy from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

Karen and Bradley introduce the panel.

Segment 1 (02:15)

This is the recording of the panel. Some of the questions aren't completely audible, but Dan did a pretty good job boosting it in places.

Segment 2 (35:04)

Bradley mentioned This American Life, Episode 454, that covered issues of labor that is abused to build our electronics. You can read a transcript or download an mp3 of the audio. (43:27)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in MP3 format] — 0x24: App Store Panel Mar 13, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss Panel on Application Stores, moderated by Richard Fontana, with Giovanni Battista Gallus, Bradley M. Kuhn, and Hugo Roy from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

Karen and Bradley introduce the panel.

Segment 1 (02:15)

This is the recording of the panel. Some of the questions aren't completely audible, but Dan did a pretty good job boosting it in places.

Segment 2 (35:04)

Bradley mentioned This American Life, Episode 454, that covered issues of labor that is abused to build our electronics. You can read a transcript or download an mp3 of the audio. (43:27)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in Ogg/Vorbis
format] — 0x23: Is Copyleft Being Framed? Feb 28, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss John Sullivan's talk entitled Is Copyleft Being Framed? from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

Dave Neary wrote an article based on his FOSDEM talk, and we're trying our best to fix the audio and have a FaiFCast of his talk, but it may not be salvagable.

Segment 1 (06:35)

Follow along with John's slides from his FOSDEM talk.

Segment 1 (37:23)

John referenced the source Black Duck numbers for which there is no methodology posted (38:30)

Bradley mentioned Chris DiBona's keynote at OSCON 2010. (39:14)

John mentioned the FLOSS Mole project in his talk. (42:50)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in MP3 format] — 0x23: Is Copyleft Being Framed? Feb 28, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss John Sullivan's talk entitled Is Copyleft Being Framed? from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

Dave Neary wrote an article based on his FOSDEM talk, and we're trying our best to fix the audio and have a FaiFCast of his talk, but it may not be salvagable.

Segment 1 (06:35)

Follow along with John's slides from his FOSDEM talk.

Segment 1 (37:23)

John referenced the source Black Duck numbers for which there is no methodology posted (38:30)

Bradley mentioned Chris DiBona's keynote at OSCON 2010. (39:14)

John mentioned the FLOSS Mole project in his talk. (42:50)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in Ogg/Vorbis
format] — 0x22: Elder's Methods of FOSS Activism Feb 14, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss Ambjörn Elder's talk entitled Methods of FOSS Activism from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley and Karen summarize some of the logistics of FOSDEM.

Segment 1 (08:08)

You can follow along with Ambjörn's slides for his talk while you listen.

Segment 2 (24:04)

Bradley mentioned Terry Bollinger's report, Use of Free and Open-Source Software (FOSS) in the U.S. Department of Defense. (26:13)

Karen quoted the USA DoD in her Killed by Code paper. (28:04)

EFF has engaged lobbyist in the past on some issues. (29:58)

Bradley mentioned Noam Chomsky's point regarding concision. (35:32)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in MP3 format] — 0x22: Elder's Methods of FOSS Activism Feb 14, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley play and discuss Ambjörn Elder's talk entitled Methods of FOSS Activism from the FOSDEM 2012 Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley and Karen summarize some of the logistics of FOSDEM.

Segment 1 (08:08)

You can follow along with Ambjörn's slides for his talk while you listen.

Segment 2 (24:04)

Bradley mentioned Terry Bollinger's report, Use of Free and Open-Source Software (FOSS) in the U.S. Department of Defense. (26:13)

Karen quoted the USA DoD in her Killed by Code paper. (28:04)

EFF has engaged lobbyist in the past on some issues. (29:58)

Bradley mentioned Noam Chomsky's point regarding concision. (35:32)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in Ogg/Vorbis
format] — Episode 0x21: Inspirational Conference Talks Jan 31, 2012
Show notes

Bradley and Karen discuss Jacob Appelbaum's talk at Linux Conf Australia 2012, as well as other conference talks.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley spoke at SCALE, but the talk was very similar to the talk given on 0x18. (07:15)
Karen's talk at LCA was a longer version of the talk from 0x15 she gave at OSCON. Listeners should write in if they want Karen's longer talk to be a show (07:30).

Bradley will try to record some of the talks from the Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom at FOSDEM 2012 (07:55)

Bradley mentioned the Red Dwarf episode, Legion where Rimmer says: Thank you for listening. Oh, additional: sorry to take up your valuable time. Sorry. Thank you. Sorry. Bye. Bye. Sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. (12:12)

Bradley asked if the crickets in Australia sang Jump Around, since Karen said they jump around (15:45)

Segment 0 (18:51)

Karen liked Jacob Appelbaum's keynote at Linux Conf Australia 2012 (19:20)

Bradley mentioned Harald Welte's blog post about running his own email server (23:45)

Bradley mentioned Ken Thompson's bug (34:03)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in MP3 format] — Episode 0x21: Inspirational Conference Talks Jan 31, 2012
Show notes

Bradley and Karen discuss Jacob Appelbaum's talk at Linux Conf Australia 2012, as well as other conference talks.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:35)

Bradley spoke at SCALE, but the talk was very similar to the talk given on 0x18. (07:15)
Karen's talk at LCA was a longer version of the talk from 0x15 she gave at OSCON. Listeners should write in if they want Karen's longer talk to be a show (07:30).

Bradley will try to record some of the talks from the Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom at FOSDEM 2012 (07:55)

Bradley mentioned the Red Dwarf episode, Legion where Rimmer says: Thank you for listening. Oh, additional: sorry to take up your valuable time. Sorry. Thank you. Sorry. Bye. Bye. Sorry. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. (12:12)

Bradley asked if the crickets in Australia sang Jump Around, since Karen said they jump around (15:45)

Segment 0 (18:51)

Karen liked Jacob Appelbaum's keynote at Linux Conf Australia 2012 (19:20)

Bradley mentioned Harald Welte's blog post about running his own email server (23:45)

Bradley mentioned Ken Thompson's bug (34:03)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in Ogg/Vorbis
format] — Episode 0x20: Gender Inequality in Software Freedom Community Jan 17, 2012
Show notes

Bradley and Karen discuss issues of gender inequality in the software freedom community and technology generally.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen discuss issues of gender inequality in the software freedom community and technology generally.

Bradley wrote a blog post a while back noting that issues of gender inequality are technology-sector-wide, as shown on PDF page 10 of this study. However, Bradley incorrectly remembered the study: in fact, all levels of academic computer science are (23:19)
Karen got a 5 on our Calculus AB exam, even though her teacher told her only boys were good at math. Bradley also got a 5 on the Calculus AB exam. (27:06)

Bradley believes that Stand and Deliver. (29:37)

Bradley is sure there is no Calculus in Good Will Hunting (30:08)

Bradley mentioned that S05E11 of American Greed contained an rsync output on a Debian system and Python DBUS binding C code as “code cracking examples” (31:00)

Miguel de Icaza had a cameo in the file Antitrust. (33:27)

Bradley mentioned that Craig Mundie keynoted OSCON (38:55)

Bradley mentioned the USENIX/Freenix to Perl Conference to OSCON history (42:50)

Karen mentioned the GNOME Marketing Meeting at FOSDEM 2012. (43:27)

Karen is speaking at Linux Conf Australia on 19 January 2012,Bradley is speaking at Scale 10x, the 2012 Southern California Linux Expo (44:16)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in MP3 format] — Episode 0x20: Gender Inequality in Software Freedom Community Jan 17, 2012
Show notes

Bradley and Karen discuss issues of gender inequality in the software freedom community and technology generally.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:38)

Bradley and Karen discuss issues of gender inequality in the software freedom community and technology generally.

Bradley wrote a blog post a while back noting that issues of gender inequality are technology-sector-wide, as shown on PDF page 10 of this study. However, Bradley incorrectly remembered the study: in fact, all levels of academic computer science are (23:19)
Karen got a 5 on our Calculus AB exam, even though her teacher told her only boys were good at math. Bradley also got a 5 on the Calculus AB exam. (27:06)

Bradley believes that Stand and Deliver. (29:37)

Bradley is sure there is no Calculus in Good Will Hunting (30:08)

Bradley mentioned that S05E11 of American Greed contained an rsync output on a Debian system and Python DBUS binding C code as “code cracking examples” (31:00)

Miguel de Icaza had a cameo in the file Antitrust. (33:27)

Bradley mentioned that Craig Mundie keynoted OSCON (38:55)

Bradley mentioned the USENIX/Freenix to Perl Conference to OSCON history (42:50)

Karen mentioned the GNOME Marketing Meeting at FOSDEM 2012. (43:27)

Karen is speaking at Linux Conf Australia on 19 January 2012,Bradley is speaking at Scale 10x, the 2012 Southern California Linux Expo (44:16)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in Ogg/Vorbis
format] — Episode 0x1F: Toward Better Legal Discussion Fora Jan 08, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley discuss the various private Free Software legal fora and consider if a more open community for discussion might be better, and also discuss the just-ended CFP for the FOSDEM Legal and Policy Issues Dev Room.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen were discussing the NYS charities filing requirements for auditing and limited review, as can be seen NYS CHAR-500 instructions, on page 5 of 6, §V(6) . (03:02)

Bradley and Karen mentioned the old show, SFLS 0x19, where they discussed Conservancy's FY 2008 Form 990. (03:27)

Bradley mentioned he still works at a cow-orking facility (04:15)

Bradley mentioned that various charity rating sites like Charity Navigator and GuideStar. (05:58)

Bradley mentioned Lawrence Welk (09:50)

Bradley is speaking on GPL enfoircement at SCALE 10x.

keynoting on Thursday 19 January 2012 at Linux Conf Australia 2012.

Bradley doesn't like the Chatham House Rule. (20:30)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in MP3 format] — Episode 0x1F: Toward Better Legal Discussion Fora Jan 08, 2012
Show notes

Karen and Bradley discuss the various private Free Software legal fora and consider if a more open community for discussion might be better, and also discuss the just-ended CFP for the FOSDEM Legal and Policy Issues Dev Room.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:37)

Bradley and Karen were discussing the NYS charities filing requirements for auditing and limited review, as can be seen NYS CHAR-500 instructions, on page 5 of 6, §V(6) . (03:02)

Bradley and Karen mentioned the old show, SFLS 0x19, where they discussed Conservancy's FY 2008 Form 990. (03:27)

Bradley mentioned he still works at a cow-orking facility (04:15)

Bradley mentioned that various charity rating sites like Charity Navigator and GuideStar. (05:58)

Bradley mentioned Lawrence Welk (09:50)

Bradley is speaking on GPL enfoircement at SCALE 10x.

keynoting on Thursday 19 January 2012 at Linux Conf Australia 2012.

Bradley doesn't like the Chatham House Rule. (20:30)

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

[Direct download of cast in Ogg/Vorbis
format] — Episode 0x1E: Our Non-Profits Considered Dec 16, 2011
Show notes

Karen and Bradley discuss recent debates about the value of non-profit organizations for Free Software.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

Fontana (and other Red Hat employees) pointed out some imprecision in what Bradley said in Episode 0x1D about Debian non-free. (01:07)

A call for participation has been announced for the Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom at FOSDEM 2012. Please submit a proposal by 30 December 2011 (04:30)

A recent debate about non-profits started, initiated by a blog post called Apache Considered Harmful. (12:55)

Karen and Bradley briefly mentioned that some now believe that Considered Harmful Considered Harmful (13:16)

A long thread on this issue occurred on the FLOSS Foundations mailing list (13:45)

Bradley made an official Conservancy Blog post about the value of non-profits for Free Software (14:17)

Sourceforge became proprietary software in 2001, as is well-described in this by The Sourceforge proprietarization debacle is well described in an article by Loïc Dachary. (19:19)

Bradley mentioned FaiFCast Episode 0x11, which discussed the OpenOffice.org/Apache/LibreOffice situation. (44:35)

Bradley pointed out that this debate conflates a lot of different issues, and tried to list all the conflated questions here:

Should a non-profit home decide what technical infrastructure is used for a software freedom project? And if so, what should it be?

If the projects doesn't provide technological services, should non-profits allow their projects to rely on for-profits for technological or other services?

Should a non-profit home set political and social positions that must be followed by the projects? If so, how strictly should they be enforced?

Should copyrights be held by the non-profit home of the project, or with the developers, or a mix of the two?

Should the non-profit dictate licensing requirements on the project? If so, how many licenses are ok?

Should a non-profit dictate strict copyright provenance requirements on their projects? If not, should the non-profit at least provide guidelines and recommendations?

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Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

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[Direct download of cast in MP3 format] — Episode 0x1E: Our Non-Profits Considered Dec 16, 2011
Show notes

Karen and Bradley discuss recent debates about the value of non-profit organizations for Free Software.

Show Notes:

Segment 0 (00:34)

Fontana (and other Red Hat employees) pointed out some imprecision in what Bradley said in Episode 0x1D about Debian non-free. (01:07)

A call for participation has been announced for the Legal and Policy Issues DevRoom at FOSDEM 2012. Please submit a proposal by 30 December 2011 (04:30)

A recent debate about non-profits started, initiated by a blog post called Apache Considered Harmful. (12:55)

Karen and Bradley briefly mentioned that some now believe that Considered Harmful Considered Harmful (13:16)

A long thread on this issue occurred on the FLOSS Foundations mailing list (13:45)

Bradley made an official Conservancy Blog post about the value of non-profits for Free Software (14:17)

Sourceforge became proprietary software in 2001, as is well-described in this by The Sourceforge proprietarization debacle is well described in an article by Loïc Dachary. (19:19)

Bradley mentioned FaiFCast Episode 0x11, which discussed the OpenOffice.org/Apache/LibreOffice situation. (44:35)

Bradley pointed out that this debate conflates a lot of different issues, and tried to list all the conflated questions here:

Should a non-profit home decide what technical infrastructure is used for a software freedom project? And if so, what should it be?

If the projects doesn't provide technological services, should non-profits allow their projects to rely on for-profits for technological or other services?

Should a non-profit home set political and social positions that must be followed by the projects? If so, how strictly should they be enforced?

Should copyrights be held by the non-profit home of the project, or with the developers, or a mix of the two?

Should the non-profit dictate licensing requirements on the project? If so, how many licenses are ok?

Should a non-profit dictate strict copyright provenance requirements on their projects? If not, should the non-profit at least provide guidelines and recommendations?

Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).

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