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    Free as in Freedom

    A bi-weekly discussion of legal, policy, and other issues in the open source and software freedom community (including occasional interviews) from Brooklyn, New York, USA. Presented by Karen Sandler and Bradley M. Kuhn.

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    0x45: I'm Board May 27, 2014
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    Bradley and Karen discuss the details, what to worry about, and what the usual duties are when serving on a Board of Directors for a USA non-profit. The discussion is primarily about 501(c)(3) organizations, but at the end they spend some time discussing 501(c)(6) organizations as well.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:44)

    • An image of Alfie chewing on the antler (01:22)
    • Karen is running for the GNOME Foundation Board of Directors. (05:15)
    • Bradley once criticized the CNRI OPEN SOURCE LICENSE AGREEMENT (used for parts of Python), because it is governed by the laws of a place that doesn't exist. (06:48)
    • Bradley mentioned a Planet Money episode that talked about it's “too easy” to incorporate in Delaware (23:50)

    Segment 1 (00:32:25)

    • Bradley and Karen discuss various additional things about being on a Board of Directors, including why and how you might be able to serve on one.
    • Bradley and Karen discuss the requirements for getting on a 501(c)(6) Board like Linux Foundation (55:30)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x44: Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision May 13, 2014
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    Bradley and Karen explain why they've been gone for so long, and then discuss the recent Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:31)

    • Karen is now Executive Director of Conservancy and Bradley is President and Distinguished Technologist. (03:01)
    • Bradley will be working extensively on the NPO Accounting Project. (03:40)

    Segment 1 (00:09:37)

    • Karen says the Oracle v. Google Federal Appeals Court Decision is not an engaging read, but the lower court decision was. (09:50)
    • Karen said: You're out of your element, Donny! (12:38)
    • Karen mentioned a tweet from the EFF (15:23)
    • Bradley mentioned his older blog post about the previous decision (16:48)
    • Karen incorrectly said we never recorded a show on the previous decision, but we did indeed discuss the previous Oracle v. Google decision in , which Bradley and Karen discussed in Episode 0x35 (18:53)
    • Karen and Bradley explained what an affirmative defense, arguments in the alternative, and merger doctrine. (21:03)
    • Bradley mentioned the Apache Software Foundation is now publicly more against copyleft software than proprietary software, and that such position is unreasonable, unlike the OpenBSD position that copyleft and proprietary software are equally bad: a position Bradley disagrees with but agrees is consistent, reasonable moral stance. (38:40)
    • Bradley mentioned his discussions with Mark J. Wielaard of the Classpath project (52:20)
    • Bradley and Karen ask people to doante to Conservancy.

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x43: State of the GNUnion Oct 17, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss John Sullivan's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled State of the GNUnion.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:33)

    Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

    Segment 1 (00:01:58)

    The slides for John's talk are available, and the source of those slides is available too.

    Segment 1 (00:54:31)

    • Bradley mentioned RMS' essay, Who Does That Server Really Serve? (01:08:55)

    Segment 2 (01:14:53)

    Private Internet Access became a new GNOME Advisory Board Member.

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x42: libVLC LGPL Relicensing Sep 04, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Jean-Baptiste Kempf's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Relicensing libVLC and VLC modules from GPL to LGPL.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:28)

    • The plural of hiatus appears to be hiatukset, but hiatuses is the proper English. (01:50)
    • Bradley adopted two dogs from a shelter. They like kongs (02:30)
    • Bradley's wife has a blog with pictures of their dogs. (04:30)

    Segment 1 (00:05:52)

    Jean-Baptiste Kempf slides are available for this talk.

    Segment 2 (01:03:20)

    • Bradley had written a a blog post about the VLC relicensing. (01:03:48)
    • Bradley mentioned a an article in The Onion about pugs known health problems (01:15:47)
    • Karen mentioned The Last GUADEC blog post.

    Segment 3 (01:21:00)

    Bradley and Karen discussed the release of the ExFAT Samsung source code.

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x41: Interview with Jim Zemlin at OSCON 2013 Aug 14, 2013
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    Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the The Linux Foundation.

    Show Notes:

    Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin, Executive Director of the The Linux Foundation.

    Segment 0 (00:00:33)

    Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.

    Segment 1 (00:03:03)

    Bradley and Karen interview Jim Zemlin.

    Segment 2 (00:25:23)

    • Karen and Bradley wrap up the discussion about 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(6).
    • Bradley referenced this post which ocurred in this thread about Linus saying Greg KH is a door-mat. (26:36, 34:55)
    • The OSCON session that Bradley chaired was Non-Profits Organizations for FLOSS Projects: There Is No Place Like Home, and the slides are available. (33:21)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x40: Alison Chaiken on Free Software in Cars Aug 02, 2013
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    Note: initially, from 2013-08-01 18:30 through 2013-08-02 08:40 (US/Eastern), the audio file links in the feed did not work. That has been corrected.

    Bradley and Karen interview Alison Chaiken about Free Software in cars.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:38)

    Bradley and Karen introduce the interview.

    Segment 1 (00:01:43)

    • Bradley and Karen interview Alison Chaiken about Free Software in the automotive industry.
    • Alison mentioned the Genivi Alliance, which is an industry trade association with some interest in “Open Source”.
    • Alison presented a session at LibrePlanet about the Right to Repair act in Massachusetts. (00:14:30)
    • Alison encouraged listens to get involved with Right to Repair and the Massachusetts Right to Repair.

    Segment 2 (00:36:09)

    • Karen moderated a panel at the Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2013 on Automotive issues (37:12)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    Episode 0x3F: FOSDEM 2013 - AGPLv3 Panel Discussion Jul 17, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss The panel discussion on the GNU Affero General Public License from FOSDEM 2013.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:38)

    • Bradley asked for donations again to Conservancy's NPO accounting software campaign and Karen asked for donations to GNOME's Privacy Campaign.

    Segment 1 (00:04:50)

    This is the Panel Discussion: GNU Affero General Public License, version 3 from FOSDEM 2013. The speakers, in the order their voices are heard, are Tom Marble (introduction), Richard Fontana (moderator), Bradley M. Kuhn, Eileen Evans, and Christopher Allan Webber.

    Segment 2 (01:06:47)

    • Bradley mentioned the phrase Give me convenience or give me death, which is from a title of the Dead Kennedys album he suggested applied to the selection of proprietary software (01:10:10)
    • Bradley mentioned RMS' recent update to his Who does that server really serve? essay. (01:11:30)
    • Bradley mentioned his blog post on doing VoIP encryption with Free Software. (01:14:04)
    • Bradley mentioned his talk entitled The Affero GPLv3: Why It Exists & Who It's For? at the Southern California Linux Expo 11x. The slides are available and the sources for the slides are available. (01:17:30)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x3E: Mozilla - Licensing in the Trenches Jun 13, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Gervase Markham's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled Mozilla: Licensing In The Trenches.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:34)

    • Bradley encouraged listeners to Conservancy's campaign for non-profit accounting software.
    • (02:10)
    • Bradley mentioned his 2009 blog post encouraging people to donate to Free Software charities (02:50)
    • Karen asked people to donate to the GNOME Foundation privacy campaign (04:11)

    Segment 1 (00:04:57)

    Gerv's slides from his FOSDEM 2013 talk can be downloaded from FOSDEM's website.

    Segment 2 (00:51:48)

    Bradley and Karen discuss Gerv's talk.

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x3D: Conference Behavior Redux May 28, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley discuss the sexist comment issue that occurred a few months ago at PyCon USA 2013.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:34)

    • Bradley and Karen previously discussed conference behavior back in Episode 0x04.
    • Bradley had blogged a few years ago about the issues of sexism through the computer industry, including this study showing the glass ceiling in CS academics. (05:17)
    • Bradley mentioned that he'd blogged in the past that proprietary software companies also have issues of sexism at conferences (05:58)
    • Bradley mentioned the How to Perform Like a Porn Star CouchDB talk at a Ruby Conference (06:13)
    • There is indeed a Project named PyCorn. (09:38)
    • Bradley mentioned the Planet Money story about Online Pharmacies but he couldn't find the original audio of the longer piece that ends with the phrase Stay Shady, Internet (21:30)
    • Bradley mentioned a quote about the human mind being the most dangerous thing because everything is in it, which is actually from Heart of Darkness by Joesph Conrad. (23:40)
    • Bradley mentioned that a keynoter at LinuxCon Europe made sexist comments back in 2011. (30:02)
    • Bradley and Karen encouraged listeners to promote the GNOME Foundation Outreach Program for Women (31:20)
    • Bradley mentioned Shuttleworth's comment at LinuxCon North America in 2009 (32:02).

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


    0x3C: FOSDEM 2013: How to Share a Trademark May 07, 2013
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    Karen and Bradley listen to and discuss Pamela Chestek's talk from FOSDEM 2013, entitled How to Share a Trademark.

    Show Notes:

    Segment 0 (00:00:33)

    Karen and Bradley introduce the talk.

    Segment 0 (00:02:05)

    Pam gave us slides, but it's all in one big SVG.

    Segment 2 (00:55:10)

    • The talk that Bradley mentioned was this talk that Karen gave at Linux Foundation Collaboration Summit 2012; he was unable to find a recording. (57:04)
    • Note that most of the time the word source was used in the talk and Karen's comments, it means origin, not source code. (01:05:55)
    • Bradley mentioned this Planet Money story about the 5¢ coke. (01:21:37)

    Send feedback and comments on the cast to <oggcast@faif.us>. You can keep in touch with Free as in Freedom on our IRC channel, #faif on irc.freenode.net, and by following Conservancy on identi.ca and and Twitter.

    Free as in Freedom is produced by Dan Lynch of danlynch.org. Theme music written and performed by Mike Tarantino with Charlie Paxson on drums.

    Creative Commons License The content of this audcast, and the accompanying show notes and music are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike 4.0 license (CC BY-SA 4.0).


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