Crime and Roses

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Episode 39 True Crime: The Murder of Amie Harwick and the Murder of Laurie Show Sep 24, 2020

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This week we both cover cases involving stalking, due to the recent allegations made by Cassie Randolph against Colton Underwood (The Bachelor Seasons 23). First and foremost we need to say that on this podcast we believe women, and we hope Cassie is safe and able to get the help she needs during this time.

Given the nature of the cases and topics we cover, we’re putting a larger content warning here. CONTENT WARNING: stalking, harassment, intimate partner violence, domestic violence, violence against women. In addition, those that have not been convicted are innocent until proven guilty.

Danielle loves a timeline, and she shares a timeline of events of Cassie and Colton’s relationship. The timeline starts at 11:07.

Megan gives stats on stalking both in the intimate partner violence (read: domestic violence) setting and non-intimate partner violence setting. The stats session begins at 27:33.

Danielle tells the story of the stalking and murder of Amie Harwick who was an absolute BOSS of a woman. Amie, who was well known in her own right and her work in the LGBTQ+ community, became even more well known due to her previous engagement to actor and comedian Drew Carrey. This story is an example of intimate partner stalking and intimate partner violence. (Note: Drew Carrey is NOT the alleged perpetrator of this crime). This story starts at 35:52.

Megan tells the story of the stalking and murder of 15-year-old Laurie Show. Laurie was murdered by a trio of gross young people. This story is an example of non-intimate partner violence and stalking. CONTENT WARNING: sexual assault (no details, Megan promises). This story starts at 1:04:15.

Links discussed in the episode:

Drunk History Mary Ellen Pleasant (for a mental break)

SafeHorizon.org - Get more information on stalking and other domestic violence behaviors and laws

Department of Justice Map of Local Resources - Stalking Specific

Amie Harwick Change.Org Petition

Safe at Home - Confidential Address Service (California)

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There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.

Huge shoutout and thank you to our producer, David Velick! You can find him on Instagram @davidvelick

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Episode 38 True Crime: The Controversial Fabulous Moolah Sep 17, 2020

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Demi Burnett, from The Bachelor Season 23 (Colton Underwood) and Bachelor in Paradise Season 6, appeared on WWE Monday Night Raw on August 3, 2020. Danielle and her family are huge WWE fans, therefore her story is surrounding wrestler Mary Lillian Ellison, also known as The Fabulous Moolah.

Danielle discusses the controversy surrounding Moolah’s legacy in the WWE, and women’s wrestling, that was highlighted recently when a women’s wrestling event was to be named after Moolah and fans were not having it!

Content Warning: This story does involve a mention of sexual assault and sex trafficking.

Links discussed in this episode:

Viceland Dark Side of the Ring Documentary

Demi on WWE Monday Night Raw (1)

Demi on WWE Monday Night Raw (2)

Cheat Codes Podcast

Crime and Roses Patreon

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Huge shoutout and thank you to our producer, David Velick! You can find him on Instagram @davidvelick

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Interview with Elyse Dehlbom from the Bachelor, Season 23: September 2020 Bachelor Patreon Exclusive Sep 15, 2020

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This is a sneak peek of our September 2020 BONUS Bachelor content, our interview with Elyse Dehlbom from the Bachelor, Season 23 (Colton Underwood).

You can hear the full episode starting at the $3 level of our Patreon page, link here.

We chat with Elyse about SO MUCH: quarantine and what her world looks like in 2020, how she got signed up for the show, her time on Colton’s season, relationships, makeup, and true crime!

Elyse is a true crime fan just like us, so stay tuned because we may have her on a future true crime bonus episode!

NOTE: this was recorded on Sept. 2, 2020, prior to allegations against Colton Underwood were made public.

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Episode 37 True Crime: The Murder of Andrés Escobar and The Murder of Monica Spear and Thomas Berry Sep 10, 2020

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This week on the GOAT was Juan Pablo Galavis. Juan Pablo was the soccer star single dad from Venezuela. He was the first Latinx lead the show has ever had.

Megan covers the murder of Andrés Escobar, the Colombian soccer star who was tragically killed after making an “own goal” in the 1994 FIFA World Cup. The story starts at 4:10.

Danielle covers the ambush of Monica Spear, Thomas Berry, and Maya Berry Spear (Maya survives). The family was visiting Monica's home country of Venezuela from the United States. Monica was a national treasure as a Miss Universe pageant contestant and a telenovela star. The story starts at 29:44.

Links discussed in this episode:

Crime and Roses Patreon

Chino Y Nacho Music Video

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Huge shoutout and thank you to our producer, David Velick! You can find him on Instagram @davidvelick

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Episode 36 The Bachelor: Juan Pablo, Bad Guy or Bad Edit? (Juan Pablo GOAT recap) Sep 08, 2020

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This week on the GOAT was "the worst Bachelor in franchise history" Juan Pablo Galavis. They basically used his season as a catalyst to show us Clare before the Bachelorette begins.

Chris Harrison has some very strong feelings about Juan Pablo that he makes SUPER CLEAR. We question his motivations

ABC fully decided to give Juan Pablo a villain edit, but for some reason didn’t go FULL edit. This was Megan’s first season of the Bachelor ever, and Danielle never saw the season so Megan was able to add some additional context for Danielle.

Danielle tallies up Juan Pablo’s POC points and Danielle was done tallying points in the first ~20 minutes of this episode. Juan Pablo’s POC point total is 22. The POC Point tally includes: Juan Pablo (10 points), Sharleen Joynt (10 points), Danielle Ronco (1 point), and Chantel Forest (1 point). The discussion is at 1:07:28.

Links discussed in this episode:

Crime and Roses Patreon

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Huge shoutout and thank you to our producer, David Velick! You can find him on Instagram @davidvelick

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Episode 35 True Crime: The Murder of Kim Groves, Operation Shattered Shield and The Murder of Jun Lin Sep 03, 2020

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This week on the GOAT was Nick Viall, who’s Megan’s favorite Bachelor. Megan talked about a few facts about him in Episode 22 (listen here).

The theme of these crimes we discuss is BOLD AND PROBLEMATIC.

Danielle’s story is the biggest law enforcement corruption case that ended in murder. The murder of Kim Groves by officer Len Davis is based in New Orleans, like a one-on-one date, Nick and Rachel had there. Love you, Big Rach. (Story starts at 8:13)

Danielle also has a brief discussion of Civil Law and what it really means and how it works. You know what that means, Crime and Roses Law School is IN SESSION. (Class starts at 18:19)

The woman who got Nick’s final rose, and engagement ring, was Vanessa Grimaldi; she’s a special education teacher from Montreal, Canada, as is the case Megan covers, the murder of Jun Lin, which is connected to the Netflix docu-series, Don’t F*ck with Cats. (Content warning: this contains cannibalism). (Story starts at 48:59)

Links discussed in this episode:

Nick and Rachel's New Orleans date clip

Crime and Roses Patreon

Sex Trafficking Hotel Room Database

Connect with us atlinktr.ee/CrimeandRoses

There you can see links to listen and share the podcast and connect with us on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.

Email: CrimeandRoses@gmail.com. Send us crime suggestions and any questions or comments you may have.

Huge shoutout and thank you to our producer, David Velick! You can find him on Instagram @davidvelick

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The Murder of Sherrice Iverson - A Patreon Exclusive Sep 02, 2020

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This is a sneak peek of our September 2020 BONUS True Crime Content, the Murder of Sherrice Iverson.

You can hear the full episode starting at the $3 level of our Patreon page, link here.

CONTENT WARNING: This case involves the sexual assault and murder of a child.

7-year-old Sherrice Iverson, was roaming a casino in Primm, Nevada, alone after being in the care of her 14-year-old brother, Harold, in the casino's arcade. Sherrice's dad had driven in the middle of the night to gamble. This resulted in Sherrice running around unmonitored. Eventually, Jeremy Strohmeyer followed Sherrice into a women's restroom and took her life.

The case drew national attention by focusing on the safety of children in casinos and on the revelation that Strohmeyer's friend, David Cash Jr., said he saw the crime in progress but did not stop it.

If you need a mental break after this story, like Megan needed, here’s a link to a funny puppy video. Megan highly recommends.

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Episode 34 The Bachelor: Nick, 5th Time's a Charm? (Nick Viall GOAT) Sep 01, 2020

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This week GOAT showed Nick Viall’s season ... to be honest, Nick’s season has it all: love stories, drama, diversity, AND our queen Rachel Lindsay-Abasolo! If you haven’t yet heard WAP, you need to - we mention it A LOT during this episode. Check it out here.

We spend some time discussing the Taylor/Corinne drama from Nick’s season. We talk about emotional intelligence and emotional maturity. We talk about whether or not Taylor was bullying Corinne.

We declare ourselves to be a podcast that is squarely against a nap shame. We will not stand for it. We also demand a recipe to cheese pasta (*NOT* cheesy pasta) to see if it’s what we think it is.

Of course, we spend a decent amount of time loving on the icon and legend Rachel. Representation matters. In this GOAT episode, Chris talks to Tayshia and Natasha Parker about the impact of Rachel on this franchise, there is more work to be done.

Danielle tallies up Nick’s POC points and we have a new point leader! Nick’s GOAT recap gets 39 points! (discussion is at 1:05:17)

Nick and Rachel's New Orleans date clip

Crime and Roses Patreon

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Huge shoutout and thank you to our producer, David Velick! You can find him on Instagram @davidvelick

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An Exciting Annoucement! Aug 29, 2020

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Hey friends! We’ve got an exciting announcement for you! We are launching on Patreon on September 1st! We will still be pumping out our regular content, but join us for WAY MORE.

We’ve got multiple levels at which you’ll be able to support us, starting at just a dollar a month.

We’ll have monthly bonus true crime content, monthly bonus Bachelor content, ridiculous bloopers, early access to new merchandise designs, SIGNIFICANT discounts on merchandise, birthday shout outs, birthday PRESENTS, and live events!

We so, so love this community that has come together around this strange combination of the Bachelor and True Crime and we can’t wait to spend more time with you.

Join us! We launch on September 1st, 2020 at www.patreon.com/crimeandroses

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Huge shoutout and thank you to our producer, David Velick! You can find him on Instagram @davidvelick

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Bonus Episode The Bachelor: #Clayshia2020 (An In-Depth Analysis of the Upcoming Bachelorette Season With Date Card Pod and Basic Bitch Podcast) Aug 25, 2020

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SPOILER ALERT!!

2020 has been a MESS. Even in Bachelor Nation. Since we are a spoiler-free podcast, we wanted to keep this conversation out of our regular episodes, but we needed to discuss all of the things happening with the Bachelorette 2020 Season. Danielle did the hard work and provided us with a timeline of the mess, and we discuss it ALL. No holding back here.

We got together with our friends Jenna and Danika from Date Card Pod (check them out here), and Loren from the Basic Bitch Podcast (check them out here). Loren was having some audio/connection issues so it’s just a brief pop-in. We love our friends, and you should check them out ASAP.

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Huge shoutout and thank you to our producer, David Velick! You can find him on Instagram @davidvelick

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