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Your Next: A Guide to Finding Fulfillment After Your Exit Hosted by Jerome Myers

Are you a business owner, entrepreneur, or executive who’s navigated a successful exit and now finds yourself wondering, “What’s next?” Hosted by Jerome Myers, Your NEXT is the ultimate podcast for those seeking not only financial success but deeper post-exit fulfillment, legacy-building, and a purpose-driven life after stepping away from their business.
Each episode unpacks the emotional and psychological journey of life after a business exit, addressing the Founder’s Exit Paradox—the often-overlooked challenges that come with leaving behind the company you’ve built. From grappling with identity loss, self-doubt, and relationship impact to discovering how to turn wealth into a meaningful legacy, Your NEXT provides a blueprint for thriving beyond financial success.
Through expert interviews, real-life stories, and actionable strategies, Jerome Myers dives into key topics such as entrepreneur transition, life after business, wealth with meaning, and building a legacy beyond profit. Whether you’re looking to rediscover your purpose, manage uncertainty in the next phase, or simply understand your new identity after exit, Your NEXT is your trusted guide to crafting a fulfilling and impactful next chapter.
Join us every week to learn how you can:

Reclaim your entrepreneurial purpose and reignite your passions

Redefine your identity and self-worth beyond business success

Transform financial wealth into lasting impact

Navigate personal transitions and enhance relationship dynamics

Build a purposeful legacy that resonates far beyond your exit

If you’re ready to turn the page and start your next great adventure with confidence and clarity, tune in to Your NEXT: A Guide to Finding Fulfillment After Your Exit. Because fulfillment isn’t the end goal—it’s the journey.

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Did You Win? - Todd Johnson Nov 05, 2023

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This inspiring episode features Todd "The Millionaire Mentor" Johnson sharing his incredible journey starting from humble beginnings in South Carolina to beating the odds and realizing his dreams by building and selling a multi-million dollar tech company through tireless hard work and hustle over 25+ years. Todd explains how he was motivated from a young age to get out of his challenging circumstances and details his strategic approach after the military to map out how to achieve his goal of making "General's pay". Todd reflects on keys like reframing your ideas to connect emotionally with customers, knowing when to use a coach versus mentor, and constantly building the next thing before the current thing ends. This episode provides so many rich insights and inspiration that can guide any entrepreneur or founder on their journey.

[00:00 - 22:15] - Humble Beginnings and Early Motivation

Todd grew up in challenging circumstances in South Carolina with a young single mother
He was motivated from a young age to get out of his environment and beat the odds
Started working odd jobs like selling seeds door-to-door before he could be officially hired
Joined the military but realized he couldn't become a General as an enlisted soldier
Interviewed for corporate jobs asking for General's pay to map out how to get there

[22:16 - 58:53] - Starting His Tech Company and Installing Executives

A voice asked Todd "Why have I blessed you?" and he realized he needed to build something bigger
Todd started his tech services company that he would build for 25+ years
Early motivator was being laughed at when asking for $1M to sell his company
Put executives in place so he could step away and focus on entrepreneurial pursuits
The business continued to grow without him being there day-to-day
Todd stresses the difference between coaches vs. mentors

[58:54 - 1:11:04] - The Emotional Rollercoaster of Exiting His Company

Todd describes the exit process as one of the most stressful things he's ever done
At one point he walked away entirely but they sent the money anyway to close the deal
When the money hit it was incredibly emotional after so many years of work
He had already started another business so he had something to fall back on
Todd is still grateful today for the impact and financial freedom created

Key Quotes:

"My motivation has always been adversity. It's always been me wanting to win, me wanting to beat someone." - Todd Johnson

"Entrepreneurs are creators. Entrepreneurs are not businessmen." - Todd Johnson

Connect with Todd!

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tjmillionairementor/

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The Founder's Exit Paradox: Emotions Unveiled Oct 29, 2023

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Exiting a business can be one of the most emotionally complex times in an entrepreneur's life. After years of blood, sweat, and tears building your baby, you finally get the big payout and sell your company. This should be an amazing accomplishment! But instead of feeling like you won the lottery, you're left feeling empty, worthless, and wondering "what's next?"

This is what hosts Matt Halloran and Jerome Myers call the "founder's exit paradox." In this raw and honest 3-part miniseries, they dive deep into the unexpected emotional turmoil founders experience after exiting their businesses..

[00:00 - 06:30] - Introduction to the Founder's Exit Paradox

Matt introduces the 3-part miniseries with Jerome on the founder's exit paradox
Exploring the emotional complexities founders face after exiting
The lack of resources for the non-financial aspects

[06:31 - 12:00] - The Void Created After Exiting

Founders feel lost, worthless and empty after exiting
Total loss of identity, purpose, structure, relationships
Difficulty figuring out what to do next

[12:01 - 21:30] - The Emotional Transition

Time in the business correlates to strength of emotions when exiting
Planning prevents collateral damage to relationships
Fostering vulnerability and openness is key
Finding a new passion to pour energy into

[21:31 - 33:00] - You Don't Have to Do This Alone

Support exists to help founders through the emotional transition
Knowing your "why" and people who matter
Discovering your next purpose and mountain
Making the world better by taking the next step

[33:01 - 47:42] - Closing Thoughts

The founder's exit paradox is deeply emotional
Planning for the non-financial aspects is vital
You can get support for this major life transition
Take the passion and dedication into making the world better

Key Quote:

"The founder's exit paradox is the decoupling from the enterprise that was built by a founder, and the roots of that deepen with age." - Jerome Myers

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Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthalloranpm/

Links Mentioned:

https://theexitparadox.com/

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Trust Your Intuition and Do the Work to Make Yourself Right Oct 22, 2023

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In this episode, Jerome interviews entrepreneur Larry Gaynor who has been in the beauty business for over 50 years. They discuss Larry's journey starting in the hardware business as a teenager, expanding into beauty products, becoming the largest nail product distributor, pivoting his business multiple times, and eventually manufacturing his own beauty products and PPE. Larry shares lessons on trusting your gut, taking risks, finding opportunities during adversity, and knowing when to exit a business. You won’t want to miss this episode.

[00:00 - 09:35] - Getting His Start in the Beauty Business Through a Hardware Store

Started selling black haircare products as a teen to appeal to hardware store customers
Expanded into laundry products, candy, and other items not typical for a hardware store
Increased overall store revenue significantly through these experiments
Opened a specialty health and beauty store in the suburbs after college

[09:34 - 22:22] - Pivoting into Nail Products and Battling Bigger Distributors

Opened a professional nail product division called Nail Co. in 1985 based on customer demand
Became the top nail product distributor despite manufacturers not wanting to work with him
Manufacturers copied his business model when they couldn't stop his growth
Began manufacturing his own private label when big brands cut him off
Grew the nail business exponentially but constantly had to prove himself

[22:22 - 37:58] - Refusing a Major Acquisition Offer and Rebuilding After a Blow

Turned down a $45M acquisition offer from L'Oreal despite being $17M in debt
L'Oreal later cut him off, but he rapidly found a replacement Italian hair color line
Manufacturers he helped build often cashed out without rewarding him
Larry rebuilt revenue each time he lost a big chunk of business
He became determined to control his destiny as a manufacturer

[37:58 - 50:03] - Manufacturing PPE During COVID and Thriving on Amazon

Pivoted during COVID to focus on manufacturing PPE and pandemic supplies
Helped hospitals, funeral homes and found new business during lockdowns
Dropped half his business by eliminating distribution to focus on manufacturing
Rebuilt revenue significantly through production and selling direct on Amazon
Now has top selling beauty products and PPE on Amazon as a manufacturer

Key Quotes:

"When you're on the field, play to win always, because if you're not on the field and you're on the sidelines and you're watching, there's nothing you can do." - Larry Gaynor

"Being in business is brutal. It's not for the faint of heart. Being an entrepreneur, you wake up and you just grin and bear it, but you have to stay optimistic." - Larry Gaynor

Connect with Larry!

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/larrygaynor/

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We Only Need Power if We Want to Do Harm... Otherwise Love is Enough to Get Anything Done Oct 15, 2023

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Award Winning Mentalist Frederic Da Silva shares his journey from receiving a magic box as a child in France to becoming a world-renowned performer with a long-running show in Las Vegas. Frederic explains that after getting the magic box at age 5, he instantly knew magic would be his life's purpose. Frederic emphasizes that it's all about deeply connecting with the audience and touching their hearts, not just impressing them with magic tricks. Frederic exemplifies extreme discipline and persistence, taking immediate action despite obstacles.. He believes love and connection are more powerful than any magic tricks or ideas, as expressed in the quote “We only need power if we want to do something harmful, otherwise love is enough to get anything done.

[00:00 - 09:10] - A Magical Beginning

Frederic received a magic box as a 5 year old in France and instantly knew magic would be his life's purpose
He started performing for family and in restaurants as a teenager
At age 18, Frederic visited Las Vegas and vowed to one day have his own show on the strip

[09:11 - 23:12] - The Long Road to Las Vegas

For 12 years, Frederic worked multiple jobs in France, saving up money to bring to Vegas
He constantly returned to Vegas, knocking on doors trying to get a venue
When he finally got a 6 week contract, he initially had zero ticket sales
Frederic flew weekly to Europe to perform and make money to pay rent in Vegas

[23:13 - 39:20] - It's All About the Audience

Frederic aims to deeply connect with the audience and touch their hearts
He never charges for meet and greets because his dream was to have an audience
Even the smartest people can't figure out his mentalism act, showing how little we know
Love and connection to the audience is more important than the magic tricks

[39:21 - 56:30] - The Power of Persistence and Taking Action

To open a locked combination, Frederic tried every possibility for 24 hours straight until he succeeded
He exemplifies extreme discipline, persistence and taking action despite obstacles
Ideas must be executed immediately before they can come to fruition
Frederic emphasizes being true to yourself and embracing your unique qualities

Key Quotes:

"We only need power if we want to do something harmful, otherwise love is enough to get anything done." - Frederic Da Silva

"In a world where you can be anything, be brave enough to be yourself." - Frederic Da Silva

Connect with Frederic!

Website: https://paranormaltheshow.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paranormallasvegas/

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Are Your Five Closest Friends Sabotaging You? Oct 08, 2023

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Who you spend time with shapes who you become. In this episode, Jerome pulls back the curtain on how your core relationships can either enable or sabotage your dreams. He introduces the 2C Matrix, a tool to critically evaluate your inner circle based on their capacity to help you succeed and their active contribution. Discover strategies to surround yourself with people who reinforce your goals versus those who drag you down. It's time to take a hard look at the 5 people closest to you. Are they lifting you up or holding you back? The people you spend the most time with determine the life you live. Listen in as Jerome provides guidance on curating an empowering community that takes you to new heights.

[00:00 - 07:16] - Taking a Critical Look at Your Inner Circle

Building off last week's discussion on self-image, your core relationships shape your life
Jerome introduces the 2C Matrix - a tool to assess your top 5 relationships on capacity and contribution
Reflect on who you spend time with and what they expect from life - does it align with your goals?

[07:17 - 10:48] - Decoding the 2C Matrix to Understand Your Network

Jerome breaks down the 2C Matrix - capacity is one's ability to help you, contribution is active effort
Plot your 5 closest friends on the matrix based on their capacity and contribution
Most will rate lower on capacity - this is normal but not ideal
Strategize engaging "high capacity, low contribution" people to elevate the relationship

[10:49 - 13:31] - Elevating Your Circle to Reach New Heights

Help others succeed while also furthering your goals through reciprocity
Meaningful relationships require continuous evaluation and sometimes separation
Surround yourself with people who align with your dreams - elevation requires it

Key Quotes:

"Creating an environment where it's easy to actually do the thing that you plan to do … has a huge, and I mean, huge impact on your life.” - Jerome Myers

“The people that you spend the most time with, not the people, but the expectations of those people is what creates your life.” - Jerome Myers

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Self Image: The Foundation to the Life You've Always Dreamed Of Oct 01, 2023

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Unfold the essence of self-love, the power of knowledge gained through self-teaching, and the profound impact of others' perceptions in today's solo episode with Jerome Myers! Jerome dives deep into the four pillars of self-image: self-love, self-taught, promises kept to oneself and others' perception of you. He introduces the concept of me vs. I self and encourages listeners to have a high opinion of themselves so that the world can conspire and deliver that experience. He also touches on why people don't show compassion, how not trusting oneself affects feelings of worthiness, and how keeping promises to oneself can profoundly impact life trajectory.

Tune in to hear more about this model for a centered life and discover ways to take charge of your story!

[00:00 - 06:00] Self-Love and High Expectations for a Better Life

The two concepts of the "me" self and the "I" self
The "I" self is your internal self-concept, and the "me" self is how others perceive you
Focus on others to make your life better
Self-love is a core belief that you deserve love, respect, and good things that life has to offer

[06:01 - 11:52] How Keeping Promises to Yourself Can Lead to a More Fulfilling Life

Having expectations when things are essential can lead to a more favorable outcome
Making and keeping promises to yourself is a vote for the person you're becoming
You were put on this planet to do something special and serve a unique group of people
Every experience has been a setup for what you are about to do

Quotes:

"You were put on this planet to serve a unique group of people who need your story and your experience. And when you abandon that, because you don't trust or believe in yourself, you abandon those people." - Jerome Myers

"When you can take the focus off of yourself when you can focus on others, you find a way to make your life better." - Jerome Myers

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Mental Resilience is the Secret to Happiness after Your Exit Sep 24, 2023

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Dive into a transformative discussion on resilience and the intricate pursuit of happiness in this episode, where Jerome unravels the essence of resilience in scripting successful exit journeys amidst the relentless waves of change. The conversation delves deep into distinguishing enjoyment from pleasure and learning to harness both to enrich one's existence. Don't miss out on groundbreaking discussions about the transformative power of resilience, the significance of positive affirmations, and the profound impact of aiding others with newfound wealth for achieving a fulfilling life. Tune in now!

[00:00 - 09:57] Exploring Mental Resilience and the Pursuit of Happiness

Having a coach is vital to have someone who is 100% in your corner and bounces ideas off of
Resilience is the ability to adapt to changing environments
Happiness is not something that can be achieved, but rather, it is a pursuit
Enjoyment and pleasure are not the same thing

[09:58 - 14:34] Helping Founders and CEOs Cultivate Resilience

Psychological research shows that resilience can be cultivated and practiced
Having a place to be vulnerable is essential for exploration and growth
Resilience is defined as the way people view and engage with the world
CEOs have generally relied on themselves but need to step it up
The power of saying nice things to yourself should not be underestimated

[14:35 - 26:01] The Six Centers of Doubt to Achieve Unbelievable Levels of Success

Extraction is the epitome of experiencing one's whole system
The six centers of doubt: self-image, relationship, work, health, prosperity, and significance
Sacrifices made to get to this point - were they worth it?
Health risks - can adjustments be made to live with fewer?

Quotes:

"People don't understand the power of saying nice things to yourself." - Matt Halloran

"I don't think I'm of low status. I don't think I am of any importance. And that's what the word humble means now humility is a different thing." - Jerome Myers

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Beyond the Exit Sep 17, 2023

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Those who accompany us on life's adventures are the true treasures.

In this episode, Jerome takes listeners through a recent trip – highlighting the spectacular sights, engineering marvels, street performers, and more. He emphasizes the importance of taking the time to appreciate life's journey with those closest to us so we can make memories that will last a lifetime.

Tune in as Jerome encourages us to savor life's experiences rather than rush through them to become more efficient. It's a conversation about life that you won't want to miss!

[00:00 - 09:02] Jerome's Journey Through Corporate America, Eight Figure Exits, and Charitable Foundations

The Founder's Exit Paradox is an existential crisis spurred by something positive
Jerome shares his Western Expedition from Greensboro to Houston and what made it significant

[09:03 - 14:01] Exploring Efficiency: A Journey of Self-Discovery and Spectacular Places

People aren't an exact science; they're more of an art
How Jerome realized that people on the journey are more important than destination
Beyond the Exit: a founder's guide to coping, thriving, and leaving a lasting legacy

Quotes:

"People that go on the journey with you are almost more important than the destination that you end up on." - Jerome Myers

"It doesn't matter whether you're doing Exit one, which is leaving corporate America, or exit six, which is an eight-figure exit from your company. We give you the tools that you need." - Jerome Myers

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Figure Out What's Next Before You Engage the Broker - Dan Walkowski Sep 10, 2023

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Have you ever wondered how to transition out of your business smoothly, ensuring your legacy and avoiding pitfalls?

Dan Walkowski joins us to discuss his journey in the corporate world and how he now uses his experience to help small business owners. He shares his insight into the importance of planning for a successful transition when selling a business. Dan outlines the challenges and value a middleman can bring to the process, such as gathering information, creating an advertisement, marketing, and screening qualified buyers. He also advises those looking to partner up to ensure a smooth exit when it's time to sell their business.

Tune in to hear Dan's stories and advice on how you can plan for a successful transition when selling your small business!

[00:00 - 08:20] Unlocking the Mystery of Exiting a Business

Dan Walkowski developed a passion for working with clients and helping small businesses thrive
Clients should be engaged in dialogue to discuss their exit plan, whether it's 10 or 80 years away
He tries to appeal to them to recognize the value they've created and plan for the future

[08:21 - 15:24] Maximizing Profits and Minimizing Taxes

The most significant value add is bringing quality prospective buyers to the owner
The biggest mistakes sellers make are minimizing taxes and spending too much time working inside their business
Guidance for those looking for a partner: Make sure all partners are aligned when it comes to the exit point

[15:25 - 23:07] Get Your Business Partnership Agreement in Place Before It's Too Late

Get an agreement written down during peacetime to ensure fairness for both sides
Alignment of principles, vision, and commonalities is essential when finding a partner
Being organized and having an opinion on what the business is worth is important

[23:08 - 31:03] Selling a Business: The Transition and What Makes It Successful

Business brokers help guide the process and remove obstacles
One in five businesses successfully sell, but it requires preparation and ingenuity
Business brokers work with sellers through the transition to ensure success

[31:04 - 39:47] Avoiding the Founder's Exit Paradox

Planning an exit is essential for a successful transition
The transition period should be set with a boundary to avoid frustration
Exit planning should include what to do next and how to detach from the existing business
Financial freedom alone can be an empty promise and illusion without fulfillment

[39:48 - 42:20] Closing Segment

Connect with Dan through the links below
Final words

Quotes:

"Think about what you want to do next and then prepare for it." - Dan Walkowski

"True entrepreneur spirit shines through. If somebody wants to get into a business, they will figure out a way they will maneuver through everything." - Dan Walkowski

"You never know how your life could change. And if you don't have some kind of plan together, it might not go as smoothly as you hope it would, or you want it to." - Dan Walkowski

Connect with Dan!

Website: www.TWorld.com

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The Secrets to Creating More Margin in Your Life - Brandon Thornberry Sep 03, 2023

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Imagine trading the road for real estate, flipping homes, and achieving financial freedom by transforming old properties into vibrant communities. Dive deep into Brandon Thornberry's inspiring journey from rock stages to real estate riches. Hear how Brandon transitioned from single-family homes to multifamily powerhouses, leveraging strategies like the BRRRR method to achieve financial freedom.

Tune in, get inspired, and unlock secrets to your property portfolio success!

[00:00 - 08:35] From Tour Manager to Real Estate Entrepreneur

Brandon shares his background and career
He was a tour manager for bands and used real estate as an exit strategy
In 2019, he decided to go full-on into multifamily and commercial properties

[08:36 - 18:30] Navigating the Challenges of Property Management and Finding Successful Exits

Brandon found that the type of deal dictates which kind of management company to work with
Acquisitions, envisioning the transformation of the property, and execution of renovations
There are multiple ways to get to a post-exit portfolio
Brandon's most significant exit to date was a 32-unit, which almost got canceled due to a bad inspection report

[18:31 - 31:50] Achieving Financial Freedom Through Multifamily Real Estate

Rents were increased from 550 to 1000 per unit, adding $200 in value for every additional dollar of monthly income
The BRRRR method to drive up the value and then do a refi and pull capital out
Money wasn't a motivating factor, but transforming something and providing quality housing was
Brandon's goal is to travel with family and become a person who has more margin in life

[31:51 - 43:22] Unlocking the Secrets of Hard Money Lending

Brandon's passion for reading personal development and business books
His other company is a complex money lending business in Middle Tennessee, where he partners with Will Coleman
Hard money lending is another term for private lending when traditional loans from banks don't make sense

Quote:

"When you're in kind of the grind of like, 'Hey, I need to make this every month.' you're less open to opportunity." - Brandon Thornberry

Connect with Brandon!

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandon-thornberry-353335241/

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