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    Wantrepreneur to Entrepreneur | Start and Grow Your Own Business

    Brian Lofrumento reveals everything you need to go from wantrepreneur – or someone who WANTS to own their own business – to a money-making, action-taking entrepreneur. Discover exactly how to start a business and build a raving audience of fans and customers who want to buy your stuff, and learn exactly how to best serve your customers and clients by building a customer-centric line of products and services. Brian has built multiple six-figure businesses, including a six-figure SEO agency at the age of 24, and now helps thousands of entrepreneurs from around the world grow, automate, and scale their businesses by implementing high-converting marketing strategies and systems into their businesses. Visit the show online and get a free copy of the book, Wantrepreneur to Entrepreneur, at TheWantrepreneurShow.com. Our show is made possible by the financial, time, and knowledge contributions of our amazing guests. Together with the Wantrepreneur to Entrepreneur host and team, our guests believe in the power of entrepreneurs lifting up other entrepreneurs, and their contributions make it possible for us to reach wantrepreneurs and entrepreneurs all over the world ad-free.

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    1381: This AI Predicts Customer Emotions (And Your Next Move) w/ Jill Axline Feb 09, 2026
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    In this game-changing episode, we sit down with Jill Axline, Ph.D., the co-founder and CEO of Mavera, to explore the next frontier of artificial intelligence in business. Jill demystifies how her company is moving beyond basic language models to model human cognition and emotion, giving businesses a terrifyingly accurate predictive edge. This isn't just about faster answers; it's about understanding the why behind customer decisions, market shifts, and competitive movements. For any entrepreneur tired of making decisions based on guesswork, this conversation is a masterclass in using AI as a strategic collaborator to validate ideas, challenge assumptions, and uncover opportunities you never knew existed. Jill’s journey from studying behavioral science to leading a cutting-edge AI startup provides a powerful roadmap for how to merge human insight with technological power to build a truly intelligent business.

    💡 What You'll Take Away For YOUR Business

    • 🤖 How to go beyond basic AI prompts by using systems that model cognition and emotion to truly understand and predict what your customers will do next.
    • 📈 The power of "speed with receipts" – why demanding evidence, confidence scores, and hallucination risk from your AI is non-negotiable for making sound business decisions.
    • 📊 How to turn your company's "qualitative" information (like meeting transcripts and customer calls) into a mountain of quantitative, actionable data.
    • 🧠 Why an "adversarial AI" can be your secret weapon, poking holes in your strategy and forcing you to build a more resilient and defensible business model.
    • 🚀 How startups can leverage specialized AI to level the playing field, consolidate data, and make enterprise-level decisions with agility and speed.
    • 💡 A new framework for market segmentation that is dynamic and responsive to real-time events, rather than a static PDF that sits on a shelf.

    📝 About Jill Axline

    Jill Axline, Ph.D., is the co-founder and CEO of Mavera, where she builds generative systems that give companies instant, scalable insight into people and markets. With a fascinating background that began in design and behavioral science, she holds a PhD where she studied empathy and cognitive perspective taking. Before co-founding Mavera, Jill honed her skills at Morningstar, building their market insights team from the ground up. Her unique expertise lies at the intersection of human insight and intelligent systems, making her a leading voice on how businesses can harness AI not just for efficiency, but for deeper understanding and smarter growth.

    🎯 Jill’s BEST Piece of Advice for Wantrepreneurs and Entrepreneurs

    "Maintain your skepticism... but also have an open mind and don't be dismissive of things before you've really given them a shot... always be learning."

    📢 Memorable Quotes

    • “I just don't think decisions should get ahead of evidence. And I think we've really built that into the system.” – Jill Axline
    • “I think of it more as an augmentation and a way to progress thinking that might be stuck in inertia circles, because I think a lot of times we kind of rinse and repeat the same things we've always done.” – Jill Axline
    • “Yes, you get something faster. But where did it come from? Show me how it was sourced... I kind of call it like speed with receipts.” – Jill Axline

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • Visit Mavera’s website
    • Connect with Jill on LinkedIn
    • Follow Mavera on LinkedIn

    1380: Nobody ever taught us how to get OUT of the weeds! Feb 08, 2026
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    We’ve all heard the cliché: “You need to work ON your business, not just IN it.” But what does that actually mean? It’s easy to get trapped in the day-to-day grind of client work, emails, and sales calls, feeling busy but not necessarily productive. This cycle creates a growth ceiling that keeps so many entrepreneurs stuck. In this Solo Sunday episode, Brian demystifies this classic advice and gives you a tangible, actionable framework to shift from being a busy operator to a strategic visionary. He breaks down the critical difference between tactics and strategy using a brilliant chess analogy and introduces his powerful 7-pillar OPERATE framework. This is your guide to carving out the strategic time your business desperately needs to scale.

    ✨ Why This Matters for You

    Understanding how to work ON your business is the key to unlocking real growth:

    • It’s how you break free from the "Finisher's Trap," where you’re so busy fulfilling orders that you have no time to grow.
    • It gives you a clear roadmap for what to focus on, turning vague growth goals into specific, actionable projects.
    • It forces you to build the systems and processes that will allow you to scale beyond yourself and eventually hire a team.
    • It shifts your mindset from reacting to daily fires to proactively building the future of your company.
    • It's not a luxury for when you're "big enough"—it's the very thing you must do to get big enough.

    📝 Key Takeaways

    • "In" vs. "On" the Business: Working in the business is doing the client work, the sales, and the admin—the tasks an employee would do. Working on the business is zooming out to focus on strategy, systems, and long-term growth—the work of an executive.
    • Strategy vs. Tactics: Tactics are knowing what to do when there's an obvious next step (like responding to a client email). Strategy is knowing what to do when there isn’t an obvious move—it's about charting the long-term course for growth.
    • The OPERATE Framework: Brian provides a 7-pillar system to guide your strategic thinking: Outreach, Pipeline, Execution, Retention, Automation, Telemetry, and Enablement. This is your checklist for working ON the business.
    • Create Time to Scale: You don't get to work on your business only after you have a team. You build a team and achieve scale because you prioritize working on your business from the start.
    • Manufacture Urgency: Unlike client deadlines, there’s no external urgency to work on your business. You have to create it for yourself by scheduling and committing to strategic thinking time.

    🚀 Put It Into Action

    This week, schedule your first "ON the Business" strategy session:

    • Block out 60-90 minutes in your calendar where you will not be disturbed. No emails, no client work.
    • Go through each of the 7 pillars of the OPERATE framework (Outreach, Pipeline, Execution, Retention, Automation, Telemetry, Enablement).
    • For each pillar, ask yourself: "On a scale of 1-10, how strong is this area of my business?" and "What is one thing I could do to improve it?"
    • Identify the single biggest opportunity for growth from your audit and make it a priority project for the next month.

    🔗 Stay Connected

    • Subscribe to the show so you never miss an episode of daily value.
    • Want to go deeper? Brian is offering to send you a FREE copy of his book, "OPERATE." Just email your address to hello@imetbrian.com. Or, grab it instantly on Amazon!
    • Connect with Brian on Instagram @imetbrian
    • Share this episode with a fellow entrepreneur who is stuck in the weeds and needs a clear path forward.

    1379: Strong IT + Stronger Cybersecurity = The Link You Can't Afford to Ignore w/ Martin Hiriart Feb 06, 2026
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    Think your small business is too insignificant to be a target for cyberattacks? Think again. In this eye-opening episode, cybersecurity expert and co-founder of Attainable Security, Martin Hiriart, reveals why small and medium-sized businesses are now the primary targets for hackers. Martin breaks down the critical, often-overlooked connection between everyday IT practices and a rock-solid cybersecurity posture. This episode is a must-listen for any entrepreneur who wants to move fast without leaving their business vulnerable. You'll learn how to implement proactive security measures that protect your company, your customers, and your reputation without slowing down your growth.

    💡 What You'll Take Away For YOUR Business

    • 🚀 Why "I'm too small to be a target" is a dangerous myth that could bankrupt your business in 2026.
    • 🔒 How to find the perfect balance on the "convenience vs. security" spectrum to protect your assets without crippling productivity.
    • 💻 The modern security strategies (like Single Sign-On and conditional access) that make managing a remote team easier and safer than ever.
    • 🤖 The right way to use AI and "vibe coding" for rapid prototyping without exposing sensitive customer data.
    • 📈 How a holistic IT strategy becomes a business enabler, giving you the confidence to focus on growth instead of tech threats.
    • 🤝 What to look for in an IT partner who acts as a strategic advisor, not just a helpdesk.
    • 🔑 Simple, foundational habits for onboarding and offboarding team members that instantly harden your company's security.

    📝 About Martin Hiriart

    Martin Hiriart is a seasoned cybersecurity and IT professional and the co-founder of Attainable Security. With a rich background spanning helpdesk support to high-level cloud and identity management, Martin saw a critical gap in the market: small and medium-sized businesses lacked access to enterprise-grade security programs. He and his co-founder created Attainable Security to provide holistic, high-quality IT and cybersecurity strategies, allowing entrepreneurs to build their vision on a secure and efficient foundation.

    🎯 Martin’s BEST Piece of Advice for Wantrepreneurs and Entrepreneurs

    "Find those people and those relationships in your life that are partnerships... just knowing that you have that person or the set of people that you can trust to just, hey, let's work on this together and work towards this shared goal is huge."

    📢 Memorable Quotes

    • "The more secure you get, the less convenient things become... It's really about helping [businesses] understand where they land on that slider." – Martin Hiriart
    • "I feel like vibe coding is in that same spot as early 3D printing. It's great for prototyping... But I think it still needs to be paired with a competent professional." – Martin Hiriart
    • "How can we be just as secure working from the office as we are working from a Starbucks? That's kind of at a high level what the trying to leverage and set teams up for remote work is all about." – Martin Hiriart

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • Visit Attainable Security’s website
    • Connect with Martin on LinkedIn
    • Connect with Sam on LinkedIn
    • Follow Attainable Security on LinkedIn

    1378: If You Can't Explain It Simply, You're Losing Sales and Influence w/ Mandy Geyer Feb 05, 2026
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    Are you an expert in your field but struggle to communicate your true value to clients, investors, or your team? In this episode, former health insurance executive turned consultant Mandy Geyer breaks down the art and science of influential communication. She reveals why even the most brilliant experts fail to get buy-in and provides a clear roadmap to translate complex data and ideas into compelling stories that drive action. For any wantrepreneur or entrepreneur who feels their message gets lost in translation, this episode is a masterclass in building confidence, connecting with your audience on their terms, and simplifying your value proposition to accelerate growth and impact.

    💡 What You'll Take Away For YOUR Business

    • The Audience-First Framework: Discover why you must stop telling your story and start focusing on what your audience truly cares about to grab their attention instantly.
    • The Power of Simplicity: Learn how to apply the Einstein principle of "making it simple" to your pitches and presentations, ensuring your message is heard, understood, and acted upon.
    • From Data to Decisions: Uncover strategies to transform dense data and technical details into a clear, concise narrative that leads directly to the "yes."
    • Building Unshakeable Confidence: Get practical, low-stakes techniques to practice your public speaking, eliminate filler words, and present with authority in any situation.
    • The "Less Is More" Slide Deck Strategy: Find out why your slides are only there to support you, not replace you, and how to create visuals that enhance your message instead of overwhelming it.
    • Leveraging AI for Better Communication: Learn how to use AI as a tool to refine your messaging, get feedback, and tailor your communication for different audiences without losing your authentic voice.

    📝 About Mandy Geyer

    Mandy Geyer is the founder of Integral Edge Consulting and a former health insurance executive with nearly 20 years of experience leading actuarial teams. After seeing countless brilliant, technical experts struggle to convey their value, she made it her mission to bridge the gap between data and influence. Today, Mandy works at the intersection of data, storytelling, and persuasion, helping technical leaders, analysts, and health tech companies communicate with clarity and confidence to get buy-in faster and drive meaningful results.

    🎯 Mandy’s BEST Piece of Advice for Wantrepreneurs and Entrepreneurs

    "Make sure you're taking time and space every day to be alone."

    📢 Memorable Quotes

    • “They tend to think about their story and not their audience's story. I really try and encourage people to put yourself in your audience's shoes. And what do they care about?” – Mandy Geyer
    • “You are the presentation, not your slide deck or the images that you're projecting. Those are there to support your message, but you're the one presenting.” – Mandy Geyer
    • “When in doubt, define the term, define the acronym. It's not that you're dumbing anything down… it's making sure that you're all on the same page.” – Mandy Geyer

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • Visit Integral Edge Consulting’s website
    • Visit Farm Table Health’s website
    • Connect with Mandy on LinkedIn
    • Follow Integral Edge Consulting on LinkedIn

    1377: Is Your Brand Invisible to AI? Here's How to Fix It Now w/ Apurva Luty Feb 04, 2026
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    Traditional Google searches are declining by 25% as consumers turn to AI like ChatGPT and Gemini to find products, get advice, and make buying decisions. This is the next major platform shift, and if your brand is invisible to AI, it will soon be invisible to your customers. In this episode, Apurva Luty, a marketing expert from Microsoft, Meta, and Discord, reveals how this AI wave is a massive opportunity for challenger brands to get ahead. Apurva breaks down exactly how to "teach" AI models about your business, ensuring they become your biggest advocates and drive a new wave of traffic and customers your way.

    💡 What You'll Take Away For YOUR Business

    • Why traditional SEO is becoming obsolete and how to master the new frontier of "Generative Engine Optimization" to get found by AI.
    • How to conduct a free "brand audit" to see what AI models like ChatGPT and Gemini really think about your business (and what to do if they're wrong).
    • The three core metrics (Message Pull-Through, Citation Share of Voice, and Recommendation) to measure and improve your brand's authority with AI.
    • Actionable strategies to "teach" and train LLMs about your brand, ensuring they accurately represent your unique value proposition to potential customers.
    • How to position your business to get recommended by AI in high-intent conversations, turning AI into a powerful, automated referral engine.
    • Why a holistic brand narrative is now more critical than ever for discoverability in an AI-first world.
    • How to leverage AI as a new distribution channel to potentially see massive increases in referral traffic, just like Apurva's clients.

    📝 About Apurva Luty

    Apurva Luty has spent the last decade on the cutting edge of every major platform shift in tech. With a track record of turning new mediums into predictable revenue streams at giants like Microsoft, Meta, and Discord, she has a deep understanding of consumer behavior. Apurva is a storyteller and marketer at heart, passionate about translating complex technology into accessible strategies. She is now the founder of Optimly, where she is tackling the final platform shift—AI—and building the tools to ensure challenger brands aren't left behind.

    🎯 Apurva’s BEST Piece of Advice for Wantrepreneurs and Entrepreneurs

    "Just do it... take that leap, because you are probably more prepared than you realize you are." Apurva’s core advice is to embrace a bias for action. Whether you’re on the fence about starting a business or scared about tackling a new frontier like AI, the key is to stop overthinking and start doing.

    📢 Memorable Quotes

    • "Instead of thinking about feeding the algorithm keywords, what you're trying to do is feed the LLM information. Truly teach the LLM who you are, what you do, who you serve, what makes you great." – Apurva Luty
    • "When there's a big platform shift... it's always the little guys, right? The challenger brands that are kind of ahead of the curve that are able to kind of most take advantage of those opportunities." – Apurva Luty
    • "AI, chat GPT, it's going to become some sort of gatekeeper between me and my customer... once you kind of get over that initial fear, you start to see this as a really unique opportunity." – Apurva Luty

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • Visit Optimly’s website
    • Connect with Apurva on LinkedIn
    • Follow Optimly on LinkedIn

    1376: The Nomad CPA/CFO’s Secret to Scaling Multiple Businesses w/ Alex Ostrov Feb 03, 2026
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    Ever dream of building a portfolio of successful businesses while traveling the world? In this episode, Alex Ostrov of Nomad CPA reveals how he did just that. Alex pulls back the curtain on the financial strategies used by elite entrepreneurs to scale multiple companies simultaneously through a holding company structure. He breaks down why your financial numbers are more than just a tax-time headache—they're a roadmap to unlocking hidden growth, making smarter decisions, and achieving your ultimate goals. This episode is a must-listen for any entrepreneur who feels overwhelmed by their financials or wants to build a business that truly supports their ideal lifestyle.

    💡 What You'll Take Away For YOUR Business

    • Why a holding company structure is a game-changer for centralizing functions, gaining efficiencies, and scaling a portfolio of businesses.
    • How to transform your financial statements from a compliance burden into a strategic tool for growth, acquisitions, and securing funding.
    • The critical importance of proper expense allocation and how it reveals the true profitability of each venture in your portfolio.
    • How a fractional CFO can help you find the hidden answers in your numbers to make smarter decisions about everything from hiring to expansion.
    • The mindset and practical systems required to build a successful "lifestyle business" that allows for freedom and travel without sacrificing client value.
    • A low-risk strategy to transition from a W-2 employee to a full-time entrepreneur by becoming a contractor first.
    • Why you must master your manual processes before ever investing in expensive software or tools.

    📝 About Alex Ostrov

    Alex Ostrov is the founder of Nomad CPA, a fractional CFO and full-service finance firm dedicated to helping entrepreneurs scale their portfolios. After starting his career at a Big Four accounting firm in Bermuda, Alex embraced the remote work lifestyle and traveled to over 35 countries, which inspired him to launch his own business. He specializes in working with hands-on operators who run multiple businesses, providing the strategic financial partnership they need to centralize processes, optimize performance, and grow their revenue to $25 million and beyond.

    🎯 Alex’s BEST Piece of Advice for Wantrepreneurs and Entrepreneurs

    "You don't have to fully dive in the deep end. If you want to get into the entrepreneurship journey, you don't need to fully quit your W2 job... you can talk to your company, see if you can scale back, go on as a contractor, and then from there, it gives you more flexibility to work with other businesses or start another business."

    📢 Memorable Quotes

    • “If you really want to dissect your business and look at opportunities, then the numbers tell the story. The numbers tell the story, and they can help kind of show you where you're going to be in the future.” – Alex Ostrov
    • “Just as you're an entrepreneur in a business, you're an entrepreneur for your own life as well. You get to create the life you want.” – Alex Ostrov
    • "Before you bring on any tool, make sure that your processes are refined manually. If you can't do it with a simple spreadsheet... then you're probably not going to be able to do it with one of these fancy tools." – Alex Ostrov

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • Visit Nomad CPA’s website
    • Connect with Alex on LinkedIn
    • Follow Nomad CPA on LinkedIn
    • Follow Nomad CPA on Instagram

    1375: The Best URL in Business? How This Founder Built a Nationwide Event Machine w/ Charlie Klarskov Feb 02, 2026
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    In this episode, we sit down with Charlie Klarskov, the founder of WorkshopsForRetirement.com, who shares his incredible journey from a pig farm in Denmark to building a 29-person remote company that operates in 45 states. Charlie pulls back the curtain on how he scaled a business centered around in-person events by mastering digital marketing, automation, and a "Lego-building" mindset. This episode is a masterclass for any entrepreneur who wants to understand the power of systems, the truth about marketing (spoiler: it's all experimentation), and how to leverage technology like AI not to replace people, but to reduce stress and scale your impact. Tune in to learn how Charlie turned a simple, descriptive idea into a well-oiled machine that serves communities across the nation.

    💡 What You'll Take Away For YOUR Business

    • The "McDonald's Process": Learn how to systematize even the most customized services in your business to ensure consistency, save time, and scale efficiently.
    • Marketing is Just Experimentation: Why even high-end ad agencies don’t have a "golden nugget" and how your best strategy is relentless trial and error driven by data, not personal opinion.
    • Scale Without Burnout: Discover Charlie's philosophy on using AI and automation to reduce the workload and stress on your team, allowing you to grow volume with the same number of happy employees.
    • The Power of Simplicity: Understand why sometimes the best business name is the one that simply and clearly describes what you do (like WorkshopsForRetirement.com!).
    • Bootstrapping from Zero: Get inspired by Charlie's story of starting his business with no money while living in his friend's sister's old room, proving that resourcefulness beats resources.
    • Listen to the Market: Hear why trying to force your own beliefs on your business is a path to failure, and why the most successful entrepreneurs adapt to what the market is telling them.

    📝 About Charlie Klarskov

    Charlie Klarskov is the founder of WorkshopsForRetirement.com, a company that promotes educational events to help local communities with retirement planning. Originally from a pig farm in Denmark, Charlie moved to the US at 19 with a dream of working in finance in Beverly Hills—a dream he quickly achieved. However, his entrepreneurial spirit led him to branch out on his own, building a business that brilliantly merges the power of digital marketing and automation with the high-touch, human connection of in-person events. Charlie offers a unique perspective on building a fully remote team, scaling a service-based business, and embracing technology to create a more efficient and less stressful work environment.

    🎯 Charlie’s BEST Piece of Advice for Wantrepreneurs and Entrepreneurs

    "Go with your gut feeling... Don't worry about what other people are thinking, let them worry about that. Go with your own flow."

    📢 Memorable Quotes

    • "It's a little bit like it's fun playing with Legos, taking different things, putting them together and you can build whatever you want pretty much. I feel the same way with my business." – Charlie Klarskov
    • "What I found is that the only way to find out is just trial and error. Test it out... Don't go with what you personally think is aesthetically good or what you think is good because you don't know. Let data speak for itself." – Charlie Klarskov

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • Visit Workshops for Retirement’s website
    • Connect with Charlie on LinkedIn
    • Follow Workshops for Retirement on LinkedIn

    1374: Business school lied. These 6 strategies are the truth to RAPID growth... Feb 01, 2026
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    Have you been taught that business is a zero-sum game? That you need to crush your competition, steal market share, and constantly differentiate yourself to survive? In this Solo Sunday episode, Brian dismantles one of the biggest lies we’ve all been told: that competition is the key to success. Inspired by a simple but powerful quote, “Competition happens at the bottom, the people at the top are collaborating,” Brian shares why an abundance mindset is the true secret to scaling your business and impact. He dives into his own early entrepreneurial journey, revealing how partnering with his so-called “competitors” was the very thing that accelerated his success. Get ready to rethink everything you know about your industry and discover the six types of collaboration that will change your business forever.

    ✨ Why This Matters for You

    Adopting a collaborative mindset is the fastest way to get out of the entrepreneurial trenches:

    • It frees you from the scarcity mindset that keeps you small and stressed.
    • It unlocks partnerships and opportunities that you could never create on your own.
    • It builds a powerful network of peers, mentors, and partners who genuinely want to see you win.
    • It accelerates your learning curve and helps you avoid costly mistakes.
    • It shifts your focus from fighting for scraps at the bottom to creating new value at the top.

    📝 Key Takeaways

    • Competition is a Myth. The idea that you must beat others to win is a flawed concept taught in business school. True long-term success comes from partnership and the belief that a rising tide lifts all boats.
    • Collaborate with Competitors. Instead of viewing direct competitors as threats, see them as partners for market expansion, shared education, cross-promotions, or even referring overflow work.
    • Leverage Shoulder Industries. This is a business cheat code. Partnering with businesses that serve your ideal clients (but don't directly compete with you) is one of the most effective marketing strategies.
    • Value is More Than Money. When collaborating, you can offer more than just cash or referrals. Offer time, access, credibility, distribution, labor, or community to create win-win partnerships, especially with those ahead of you.
    • Build Your Peer Group. The entrepreneurial journey is lonely. Collaborating with peers provides essential emotional support, sanity checks, shared experiments, and a trusted circle of people who are in the arena with you.
    • Co-Create With Your Market. Stop guessing what your customers want. Collaborate with them directly. Use community-led growth and user-generated content to build products and services they are guaranteed to love.

    🚀 Put It Into Action

    This week, conduct a “Collaboration Audit” on your business:

    • Identify one person or business in a “shoulder industry” that you could partner with. How can you help them first?
    • Think of one “competitor.” What’s one small way you could collaborate instead of compete? (e.g., share their content, propose a joint webinar on the state of your industry).
    • Reach out to one peer who is at a similar stage in their journey and schedule a virtual coffee. The goal isn't to sell, but simply to connect and learn.

    🔗 Stay Connected

    • Subscribe to the show so you never miss an episode.
    • Connect with Brian on Instagram @imetbrian.
    • This is a lonely journey if you let it be! Brian reads and replies to every single email personally. Reach out and say hello at hello@imetbrian.com.
    • Share this episode with a fellow entrepreneur who needs to shift from a scarcity mindset to one of abundance.

    1373: This HR Software Will Change How You Run Your Small Business w/ Jeffrey McNeal Jan 30, 2026
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    Tired of thinking HR is just expensive bureaucracy for big corporations? This episode will completely change your mind. We sit down with Jeffrey McNeal, founder of Adapt HR, who has cracked the code on making human resources simple, affordable, and practical for lean startups and small businesses. Jeffrey shares his journey from government service to the HR tech world, revealing why most HR tools are overbuilt for entrepreneurs and how he built a solution to bridge the gap. This episode is a masterclass in building a foundational system that supports your business growth, ensuring you’re prepared for success before the growing pains hit.

    💡 What You'll Take Away For YOUR Business

    • 🚀 Why building an HR foundation is crucial, even if you only have a few employees, and how it prevents future chaos during growth spurts.
    • 💰 How to get a professional HR system in place for free (yes, actually free for teams of 1-5 people).
    • 🤖 The real future of AI in HR: How a "human and machine" partnership will streamline hiring and operations, moving beyond marketing hype.
    • 📈 A founder's perspective on product roadmaps and deciding what features to build next based on customer pain points, not just shiny objects.
    • 🤝 How to build a culture of ownership and trust within your team by flipping the traditional corporate pyramid upside down.
    • ⚙️ What a lean, software-backed HR function looks like and how it removes administrative headaches from the founder's plate.

    📝 About Jeffrey McNeal

    Jeffrey McNeal is the founder of Adapt HR and a product-driven entrepreneur with a uniquely diverse career. He’s navigated the worlds of government administration, software startups, investment banking, and HR tech, giving him a front-row seat to how organizations of all sizes operate—and where they break down. Frustrated by overly complex and expensive enterprise software, Jeffrey decided to build what most small business owners actually need: a simple, practical HR platform that works without the bloat, buzzwords, or overwhelming workflows.

    🎯 Jeffrey’s BEST Piece of Advice for Wantrepreneurs and Entrepreneurs

    "When you make that shift from employee to entrepreneur, guess what? You have to know all of it."

    📢 Memorable Quotes

    • "Most small businesses are... an owner trying to run a business which includes the admin side... and they're using spreadsheets and color coded calendars and post-it notes." – Jeffrey McNeal
    • "Ultimately where HR software needs to go as it relates to AI is a smooth relationship between human and machine... letting the machine do the heavy lifting to allow the user, the human to make the higher level decisions." – Jeffrey McNeal
    • "So frequently, I see product managers who are focused on building products, they don't learn how to be a salesperson. You ask me how I know." – Jeffrey McNeal

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • Visit AdaptHR’s website
    • Connect with Jeffrey on LinkedIn
    • Follow AdaptHR on LinkedIn

    1372: The One-Inch Rule: How to Revolutionize Your Industry Without Scaring Away Customers w/ Sara Reece Jan 29, 2026
    Show notes

    Tired of hearing the same generic advice about AI? In this episode, Sara Reece, co-founder and CEO of Workmind, cuts through the noise to reveal what truly matters in the world of business automation. She breaks down the difference between overhyped AI trends and powerful “operational agents” that solve real-world problems. This episode is a masterclass for any entrepreneur looking to innovate responsibly. Sara explains how to introduce game-changing technology without disrupting your existing operations, how to get honest feedback from your ideal customers, and why your non-linear career path might just be your greatest competitive advantage.

    💡 What You'll Take Away For YOUR Business

    • 🧠 The Real Difference Between Agentic AI and "Wrapped LLMs": Learn to spot genuine, value-adding AI solutions from the pretenders and understand what makes an operational agent truly powerful for your business.
    • 🚀 How to Innovate Without Disruption: Discover Sara's "inch at a time" philosophy for introducing new technology, ensuring your team and customers adopt changes smoothly without the pain of a total overhaul.
    • 🐒 The “Trained Monkey” Question: Steal Sara’s brilliant discovery question to instantly identify the most tedious, repetitive tasks in any business that are ripe for automation.
    • 🤝 Why Developing in a Vacuum is a Recipe for Failure: Understand the critical importance of co-creating solutions with your target market before you invest heavily in development.
    • 📈 How Your Random Past Experiences Fuel Future Success: Learn how to connect the dots from a diverse, non-linear background to bring unique and powerful insights to your entrepreneurial journey.
    • 💬 The Power of Augmentation Over Replacement: Shift your mindset from seeing AI as a threat that replaces humans to a tool that augments your team's capacity, making them more effective and focused on high-value work.

    📝 About Sara Reece

    Sara Reece is the co-founder and CEO of Workmind, a company that builds operational agents to automate repetitive work for franchisors and service teams. With a fascinatingly non-linear background that includes journalism, radio, flight school, and even research in national parks, Sara brings a uniquely human and multi-faceted perspective to the world of AI. Her expertise lies in creating practical, non-disruptive AI solutions that integrate seamlessly into the tools businesses already use, helping them grow smarter and more efficiently.

    🎯 Sara’s BEST Piece of Advice for Wantrepreneurs and Entrepreneurs

    Find something you're passionate about, validate that other people care about it too, and develop the ability to take critical feedback as a business tool, not a personal attack.

    📢 Memorable Quotes

    • “What do you do on a daily basis that makes you feel like a trained monkey? As soon as I ask that question, I get overwhelming responses.” – Sara Reece
    • “If you are so disruptive that you are destroying work paths… people aren't ready for you. You need to make sure that operationally you have to give them an inch at a time.” – Sara Reece
    • “You need to be able to take that feedback and you need to take a step back and realize I am presenting this as a company… and if they give me some harsh reality checks, I need to be able to not take a personal offense to it.” – Sara Reece

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • Visit Workmind’s website
    • Connect with Sara on LinkedIn
    • Follow Workmind on LinkedIn

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