Voices of Search // A Search Engine Optimization (SEO) & Content Marketing Podcast

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One SEO habit marketers should stop doing Sep 02, 2026

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AI search visibility now hinges on fundamentals most brands abandoned years ago. Jenna Hannon, founder and CEO of Hatter and former first marketing hire at Uber Eats, built one of the first agencies dedicated to AI search visibility after scaling global growth operations and serving as fractional CMO for companies including Multisensor AI and Kyte. She unpacks why AEO performance is built on foundational SEO discipline rather than a separate playbook, and why treating strategy as an AI-replaceable function misreads what actually drives purchase intent. The conversation centers on using AI to scale execution while keeping human synthesis of customer motivation as the non-negotiable core of the strategy layer.

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What's the biggest misconception about AEO today? Sep 01, 2026

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Most SEOs assume AI visibility requires an omnichannel content spread. Jenna Hannon, founder and CEO of Hatter, scaled Uber Eats as one of its first marketing hires and now runs an AI search agency advising fractional CMO clients including Multisensor AI and FORM Kitchens. She outlines how to run an AI visibility audit to benchmark brand and competitor citations across generative engines, exposing which source types actually drive AI answer inclusion. The discussion reframes AEO as an extension of proven SEO fundamentals rather than a separate, channel-hungry discipline.

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Separating AEO Expertise From Search Marketing Hype Aug 31, 2026

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Only one-third of Google searches now click through to the open web. Jenna Hannon, founder and CEO of Hatter and former product marketing lead at Uber Eats, argues that AEO success depends on marketing fundamentals, not channel-hacking. She and Tyson break down why brand differentiation and positioning outperform multi-channel content sprawl, how AI visibility metrics like citation frequency and sentiment are replacing traditional traffic-based attribution, and why keyword specificity now beats broad-volume targeting in an AI-driven search landscape.

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Advice for your ecommerce team Aug 27, 2026

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AI platforms increasingly reward customer-focused product content over technical specifications. Lucas Tieleman, co-founder and CEO of Optiversal and former Chief Product Officer at Bazaarvoice, has helped enterprise retailers convert static product catalogs into machine-readable content that performs across traditional search and AI-driven discovery. The conversation covers why answer engine optimization depends on strong underlying SEO fundamentals, how AI is reshaping the way brands approach search visibility, and why translating product specifications into customer benefits matters more than increasing content volume.

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An SEO tactic marketers should stop doing Aug 26, 2026

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Volume-based keyword content is quietly undermining search performance. Lucas Tieleman, CEO and co-founder of Optiversal, has helped major enterprise retailers convert static product catalogs into machine-readable content that performs across both search and AI platforms, building on experience as former Chief Product Officer at Bazaarvoice. The conversation breaks down why "sloptimization"—churning out keyword-driven posts without added value—undermines both rankings and revenue, why answer engine optimization depends on strong underlying SEO fundamentals rather than replacing them, and how transforming product data into structured, machine-readable assets drives visibility across traditional and AI-driven search.

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The biggest misconception about AI search today Aug 25, 2026

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Two identical searches now return different results across AI platforms, upending ranking logic.

Lucas Tieleman, co-founder and CEO of Optiversal and former Chief Product Officer at Bazaarvoice, helps enterprise retailers convert static product catalogs into machine-readable content optimized for AI-driven discovery. He argues that answer engine optimization depends on strong SEO fundamentals rather than a separate discipline, and that success now hinges on content relevance to individual searchers rather than fixed position rankings. Tieleman outlines how brands can use performance data to validate whether their content actually serves shopper intent, shifting content strategy from volume-based production to measurable relevance.

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Why AEO Starts With Better SEO Fundamentals Aug 24, 2026

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AI Overviews now appear in 40% of Google searches, up from 6% in six months. Lucas Tieleman, co-founder of Optiversal, helps enterprise retailers turn static product catalogs into machine-readable content that performs across Google, ChatGPT, and Google Merchant Center. He breaks down why structured data and clean entity relationships matter more now than five years ago, how to optimize product feeds for AI search's "product graph," and why shifting from "test and learn" to "learn and test" prevents scaling content without scaling value.

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One thing AI still can't do well Aug 20, 2026

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AI agents still can't replicate implicit, high-frequency human communication around company strategy. Thenuka Karunaratne, founder of sunbeam, the autonomous SEO agent, and daydream, the AI-native SEO agency that identifies search patterns and creates content at scale, breaks down where automation hits its limits. He details how teams can feed agents with call recordings, CRM data, and help desk interactions to approximate customer empathy and product context, while explaining why macro strategy formation still depends on unstructured, high-touch conversations between humans. The discussion frames a practical boundary for enterprise teams building autonomous SEO workflows: where to automate content production and optimization, and where strategic judgment must stay human-led.

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One SEO skill everyone should be learning today Aug 19, 2026

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AI can't fully replace product intuition in SEO. Thenuka Karunaratne, founder of sunbeam and daydream, built an autonomous SEO agent and an AI-native agency to scale content without losing that intuition. He argues product sense is the top skill for modern SEOs: understanding what a product does at a deep level, how customers experience it, and where they struggle. That product-level insight, not just technical execution, is what determines what to communicate to search audiences in an AI-driven landscape.

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The most overrated AI SEO tactic right now Aug 18, 2026

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73% of organic click-through rate now goes to zero-click AI results. Thenuka Karunaratne, founder of sunbeam (autonomous SEO agent) and daydream (AI-native SEO agency), built systems that identify search patterns and scale content production automatically. He debunks LLMs.txt as a ranking signal, backed by Google's confirmation and cross-organization testing showing no measurable impact on visibility or discoverability. The conversation separates legitimate agentic browsing use cases from unproven geo tactics, offering a framework for evaluating which AI SEO investments actually move search performance.

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