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    “Upstream” with Erik Torenberg

    You’ll hear consequential ideas here first, and in the mainstream months later. Upstream is a curated nexus feed from the Turpentine podcast network, bringing you expert-level conversations hosted by some of the most compelling thinkers in the world including Noah Smith, Samo Burja, Byrne Hobart, Erik Torenberg, and Nathan Labenz.
    Guests include Marc Andreessen, Balaji Srinivasan, Dario Amodei, Brian Armstrong, David Sacks, Sam Harris, Katherine Boyle, Curtis Yarvin, and many more unmissable conversations.

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    E60: AI in the Techno-Economic War with China with Vinod Khosla, Todd Young, and Jacob Helberg May 24, 2024
    Show notes

    In this episode of Upstream, we're publishing a session recorded live at The Hill & Valley Forum in May 2024 hosted by Jacob Helberg, and featuring Vinod Khosla of Khosla Ventures, and Senator Todd Young (R-IN). Khosla and Young dive straight into the most pressing national security concerns regarding the threat of AI. In this techno-economic race, the winner will have economic and military control over Southeast Asia, Africa and Latin America. AI is a technology capable of that much influence is described as being comparable to an atomic bomb. If AI is viewed through the lens of an atomic bomb, should the U.S. be forming a new Manhattan Project? Would you open source the Manhattan Project?


    🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj


    The HIll & Valley Podcast is part of the Turpentine podcast network. Catch all the 2024 Forum sessions and subscribe:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/39s4MCyt1pOTQ8FjOAS4mi

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-hill-valley/id1692653857

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    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

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    SPONSORS: BEEHIIV |. SQUAD


    Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.


    💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

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    TIMESTAMPS

    (00:00) The Urgency of AI in the Techno-Economic War

    (01:13) Exploring AI's Role in Modern Warfare and Global Influence

    (08:33) Sponsor: Beehiiv | Squad

    (11:34) The Global AI Supply Chain and National Security Concerns

    (17:23) Open Source vs. Closed Model Debate in AI Development

    (22:26) Closing Remarks


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    E59: Bryan Caplan on Housing Regulation, Fertility, and Crime May 17, 2024
    Show notes

    This week on Upstream, Erik sits down with Bryan Caplan to discuss his new book about housing regulation. The conversation touches on political economy, fertility, crime, and more. beehiiv: Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.


    🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj

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    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

    --

    RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    The AI Daily Brief If you’re looking for an edge to stay up to date on everything AI, subscribe to Nathaniel Whittemore's AI Daily Brief which delivers tight episodes covering all things AI from legislation to new technologies to the philosophical debates around generalized intelligence.

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7gKwwMLFLc6RmjmRpbMtEO

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ai-daily-brief-formerly-the-ai-breakdown/id1680633614

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    SPONSORS: BEEHIIV

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:36) Why write "Build, Baby, Build"?

    (01:51) The value of graphic novels

    (05:00) Potential benefits of housing deregulation

    (11:50) Gentrification

    (15:20) Sponsor: Beehiiv

    (16:25) The best case in favor of housing regulation

    (21:40) Fertility rates

    (29:00) The political economy of housing regulation

    (35:59) The mechanics of housing regulation

    (45:51) Challenges of communicating in politics

    (51:22) Economic thought over time

    (56:13) Differences in beliefs between generations

    (58:48) Crime prevention

    (1:03:00) Bryan's next book

    (1:08:05) Wrap

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    LINKS:

    Bryan's book: https://www.amazon.com/Build-Baby-Science-Housing-Regulation/dp/1952223415

    Bryan's Blog: https://www.betonit.ai/

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    X / TWITTER:

    https://x.com/bryan_caplan (Bryan)

    https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik)

    https://twitter.com/Upstream__Pod (Upstream)

    https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

    --

    For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co


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    E58: Jonathan Haidt on Finally Fixing Social Media and Picking All the Cherries May 11, 2024
    Show notes

    This week on Upstream, Erik sits down with Jonathan Haidt to discuss his book The Anxious generation. The conversation covers the effects of social media on teen mental health, culture, politics, education, and more. beehiiv: Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.

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    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

    --

    RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    The AI Daily Brief If you’re looking for an edge to stay up to date on everything AI, subscribe to Nathaniel Whittemore's AI Daily Brief which delivers tight episodes covering all things AI from legislation to new technologies to the philosophical debates around generalized intelligence.

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7gKwwMLFLc6RmjmRpbMtEO

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ai-daily-brief-formerly-the-ai-breakdown/id1680633614

    --

    SPONSORS: BEEHIIV

    Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.

    --

    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:13) Evolution of Jonathan's Work: From Moral Psychology to 'The Anxious Generation'

    (01:14) The Impact of Social Media on Teen Mental Health

    (02:50) Exploring the Tragedy of the Modern Childhood

    (07:29) Addressing the Criticism and Pushback

    (12:08) The Unprecedented Effects of Social Media on Society

    (19:37) Adapting to Technological Changes and the Future of Childhood

    (20:20) The Dire State of Democracy in the Digital Age

    (27:01) How Technology Affects Liberals and Conservatives Differently

    (28:20) Unveiling the Research: The Rise of Anxiety and Depression

    (28:48) Breaking Down the Data: Gender, Politics, and Mental Health

    (30:48) The Protective Power of Religion and Community

    (31:32) Parenting Styles and Moral Values

    (32:07) Challenges for Progressive Organizations and the Democratic Party

    (32:42) Recommendations for a Healthier Childhood in the Digital Age

    (33:50) Addressing the Broader Issues Beyond Smartphones

    (34:35) The Role of Schools in Children's Mental Health

    (36:33) A Call for Intentional Community Building

    (37:34) Navigating the Public Health Crisis with Apolitical Solutions

    (40:41) Engaging with the Tech Industry: Critiques and Clarifications

    (41:01) The Debate on Content Moderation and the Need for Structural Changes

    (56:27) Wrap

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    X / TWITTER:

    https://twitter.com/JonHaidt (Jonathan)

    https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik)

    https://twitter.com/Upstream__Pod (Upstream)

    https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

    --

    For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co


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    E57: Noah Smith Analyzes Economies: USA, China, Japan, Russia, India, Korea, & More May 03, 2024
    Show notes

    This week on Upstream, we're releasing an episode from Erik's podcast with Noah Smith, Econ 102. Noah breaks down the economies of the USA, China, Japan, Russia, India, Korea, and more. Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    For more like this, watch part 2 on Econ 102:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/52nuQvRmuTT7S6ilJoXDYr?si=bf6722824bd64bcf

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/analyzing-economies-england-france-germany-poland-turkey/id1696419056?i=1000650616668

    --

    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

    --

    RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    The AI Daily Brief If you’re looking for an edge to stay up to date on everything AI, subscribe to Nathaniel Whittemore's AI Daily Brief which delivers tight episodes covering all things AI from legislation to new technologies to the philosophical debates around generalized intelligence.


    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7gKwwMLFLc6RmjmRpbMtEO

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ai-daily-brief-formerly-the-ai-breakdown/id1680633614

    --

    SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | SQUAD

    Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.


    💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    --

    Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns

    Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more,

    Spotify

    Apple

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Intro

    (01:33) U.S. Economy: Trends and Concerns

    (08:31) Transition to China Economy: Massive Property Bust

    (15:58) Sponsor: beehiiv | Squad

    (22:06) Segue to Japan Economy: Key Hub of the Electronics Manufacturing

    (30:41) Korea Economic Struggles

    (33:35) South Korea's Technological Capabilities and International Relations

    (34:44) Exploring Taiwan's Economy and Challenges

    (36:52) Indonesia's Manufacturing Shift

    (38:25) Vietnam's Economic Strategy and Development Needs

    (41:01) India's Poverty Reduction and Infrastructure Investments

    (44:56) Pakistan Economic Mismanagement

    (49:08) Philippines: Underrated Investment Destination

    (50:03) Transition to Australia: The Progressive Utopia

    (52:32) Russia Economy at War

    (60:29) Wrap

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    X / TWITTER:

    https://twitter.com/Noahpinion (Noah)

    https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik)

    https://twitter.com/Upstream__Pod (Upstream)

    https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

    --

    For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co


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    E56: Brian Chau on Spreading Informed AI Optimism Apr 26, 2024
    Show notes

    This week on Upstream, Nathan Labenz of The Cognitive Revolution podcast and Brian Chau, a machine learning engineer who recently founded the Alliance for the Future, talk about Brian's efforts in Washington, D.C. to influence AI policy based on informed AI optimism. After their conversation, Nathan and Erik chat about the AI landscape. Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    --

    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

    --

    RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    The AI Daily Brief If you’re looking for an edge to stay up to date on everything AI, subscribe to Nathaniel Whittemore's AI Daily Brief which delivers tight episodes covering all things AI from legislation to new technologies to the philosophical debates around generalized intelligence.


    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7gKwwMLFLc6RmjmRpbMtEO

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ai-daily-brief-formerly-the-ai-breakdown/id1680633614


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    SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | SQUAD

    Head to beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝 Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.


    💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    --

    Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns

    Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more,

    Spotify

    Apple

    --

    Timestamps

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:42) Unpacking AI Optimism and Policy Perspectives

    (01:22) Exploring the Breadth of AI and Its Economic Implications

    (05:23) Debunking AI Doomsday Predictions

    (14:56) Sponsors: BeeHiiv | Squad

    (25:53) Navigating the Near-Term AI Landscape and Government Modernization

    (41:30) Exploring AI Regulation and Executive Orders

    (43:55) The Impact of AI on Startups and Economic Viability

    (45:36) AI Development and Regulatory Challenges

    (48:40) The Debate on AI Accountability and Regulation

    (59:02) Open Sourcing AI Models: Risks and Regulations

    (1:07:06) The Future of AI: Ethical, Social, and Regulatory Considerations

    (1:14:41) Reflections on AI Safety and the Path Forward

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    Alliance for the Future: https://www.affuture.org/

    Brian's article on research progress in AI: https://www.affuture.org/research/3-diminishing/

    --

    X / TWITTER:

    https://twitter.com/psychosort (Brian)

    https://twitter.com/labenz (Nathan)

    https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik)

    https://twitter.com/Upstream__Pod (Upstream)

    https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

    --

    For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co


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    E55: Why China's Universities Will Become Harvard Apr 19, 2024
    Show notes

    This week on Upstream, we’re releasing an episode from Turpentine’s show Live Players with Samo Burja. Erik and Samo discuss China’s universities and the future of China’s elites. Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    --

    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

    --

    RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    The AI Daily Brief If you’re looking for an edge to stay up to date on everything AI, subscribe to Nathaniel Whittemore's AI Daily Brief which delivers tight episodes covering all things AI from legislation to new technologies to the philosophical debates around generalized intelligence.


    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7gKwwMLFLc6RmjmRpbMtEO

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ai-daily-brief-formerly-the-ai-breakdown/id1680633614


    --

    SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | SQUAD

    Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.


    💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    --

    Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns

    Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more,

    Spotify

    Apple


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    X / TWITTER:

    https://twitter.com/SamoBurja (Samo)

    https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik)

    https://twitter.com/Upstream__Pod (Upstream)

    https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

    --

    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00:00) - Episode Preview

    (00:00:57) - Universities as an example of US-China parallel evolution

    (00:02:53) - Academia during The Cultural Revolution

    (00:04:00) - The elite Chinese universities

    (00:06:00) - Signaling theory of education

    (00:06:30) - What the increase in educated leaders means for China’s ruling class

    (00:07:52) - China as America’s mirror

    (00:08:30) - China’s “woke”

    (00:11:29) - How Xi wants China to not fail in the same way the Soviets did

    (00:12:50) - Crackdown on university students

    (00:14:46) - Sponsor: Squad | Turpentine

    (00:15:00) - Rise of student activism in the US

    (00:19:05) - The translation of regional/ethnic inequalities into ideological ones

    (00:22:30) - The political ideological paradox generates an opportunity to organize young people

    (00:24:30) - Role of gender in divergent politics and the East Asian “woke”

    (00:27:12) - Chinese feminism

    (00:34:58) - The formation of elites in US and China

    (00:36:40) - Materialist focused education in China vs legal focused education in US

    (00:39:47) - Printing university degrees is like printing money by devaluing degrees

    (00:40:19) - Fight over Harvard Extension School

    (00:42:20) - Will American universities have as much power in the next 10 years as they do now?

    (00:46:05) - What positive and negative changes will China see in the near future?

    (00:47:00) - Silicon Valley in China

    (00:49:09) - The shift in leadership from businessmen to academia in China


    For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co


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    E54: Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan on Why History Points to Crypto Apr 12, 2024
    Show notes

    This episode was initially recorded before a live audience in 2018. Erik talks with Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan about the history of money and centralization and why crypto has the potential to fulfill the promise of the internet. Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    --

    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.

    --

    RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    The AI Daily Brief If you’re looking for an edge to stay up to date on everything AI, subscribe to Nathaniel Whittemore's AI Daily Brief which delivers tight episodes covering all things AI from legislation to new technologies to the philosophical debates around generalized intelligence.


    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7gKwwMLFLc6RmjmRpbMtEO

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ai-daily-brief-formerly-the-ai-breakdown/id1680633614


    --

    SPONSOR: BEEHIIV | SQUAD

    Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.


    Squad:💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    --

    Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns

    Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more,

    Spotify

    Apple

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    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:30) Decentralization and Blockchain: A Deep Dive with Naval Ravikant and Balaji Srinivasan

    (06:22) Personal Journeys into the World of Cryptocurrency

    (08:27) Debating Bitcoin vs. Blockchain: Perspectives and Predictions

    (12:22) Sponsors: Squad | Turpentine

    (14:33) The Social and Economic Implications of Blockchain Technology

    (19:55) Blockchain Beyond Money: Envisioning Future Applications

    (22:43) Crypto as a Social Phenomenon: Tribalism and Governance

    (28:10) Envisioning a Decentralized Future: Microeconomics and Global Impact

    (31:36) The Irony of Missing Out: Venture Capitalists and Karma

    (36:02) The Global Impact of Blockchain on Identity and Ownership

    (36:54) Navigating Regulations in a Decentralized Economy

    (38:29)The Role of Crypto in Redefining Wealth Distribution

    (40:05) Balaji and Naval's Vision

    (46:48) What Do Failure Models Look Like?

    (51:43) How Blockchain Can Provide New Career Opportunities, Not Just In Silicon Valley

    (53:33) The Potential and Challenges of Emerging Technologies

    (54:55) Identity in a Blockchain World

    (58:23) On Blockchain Intersecting With Other Emerging Technologies

    (59:57) What Types Of Players Are Going To Be The Big Winners And Losers?

    (1:00:56) Empowering the Next Generation of Builders

    (1:04:04) Visionary Ideas for Changing the World

    (1:05:41) Wrap

    --

    X / TWITTER:

    https://twitter.com/naval (Naval)

    https://twitter.com/balajis (Balaji)

    https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik)

    https://twitter.com/Upstream__Pod (Upstream)

    https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

    --

    For guest or sponsorship inquiries please contact Sam@turpentine.co

    Music license: OYOCYNQ0XUH22PB8


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    E53: Nathan Labenz and Noah Smith on What AI Actually Means for the Economy Apr 05, 2024
    Show notes

    This week on Upstream, Erik is joined by Nathan Labenz and Noah Smith for a deep dive on how AI will impact job markets, the social contract, and the role of the government. Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

    --

    RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    The AI Daily Brief If you’re looking for an edge to stay up to date on everything AI, subscribe to Nathaniel Whittemore's AI Daily Brief which delivers tight episodes covering all things AI from legislation to new technologies to the philosophical debates around generalized intelligence.


    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7gKwwMLFLc6RmjmRpbMtEO

    Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ai-daily-brief-formerly-the-ai-breakdown/id1680633614


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    SPONSORS: BEEHIIV | SQUAD | BRAVE

    Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.


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    Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns

    Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more,

    Spotify

    Apple


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    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:50) AI and the Future of Employment

    (03:57) The Intersection of AI, Robotics, and Biotech

    (05:00) Economic Disruption

    (06:40) Future of Jobs in an AI-Dominated World

    (08:27) AI's Impact on Economy

    (10:34) Pessimism Surrounding AI's Economic Impact

    (12:17) Comparative Advantage in the AI Era

    (13:50) AI Replacing Human Jobs

    (19:03) Sponsor: Squad | Brave

    (21:24) New Social Contract in the AI Era

    (34:38) Human Wages in an AI-Dominated Economy

    (39:36) Impact of AI on Job Market

    (41:45) Fear of AI Taking Over Human Jobs

    (47:51) Role of Government in AI Development

    (50:09) Potential Risks and Benefits of AI

    (53:15) Future of AI and Its Social Impact

    (58:38) Fear of Totalitarian States and AI

    (01:03:13) The Need for a Positive Vision for AI

    (01:11:03) Wrap up

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    X / TWITTER:

    https://twitter.com/noahsmith (Noah)

    https://twitter.com/Labenz (Nathan)

    https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik)

    https://twitter.com/Upstream__Pod (Upstream)

    https://twitter.com/TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)

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    E52: David Friedman on Anarcho-Capitalism, Utilitarianism, and Inequality Mar 29, 2024
    Show notes

    This week on Upstream, Erik is joined by David Friedman for a deep dive on anarcho-capitalism, utilitarianism, and more. To get Brave: Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign.

    --

    Recommended Podcast: Company Breakdowns

    Each episode of Company Breakdowns dives into S-1s and series B-and-beyond companies, interviewing founders and investors to break down the companies. First episode is on Rubrik - which just IPO'd. Coming up this season: Databricks, Reddit + more,

    Spotify

    Apple

    -

    Autopilot explores the adoption and rollout of AI in the industries that drive the economy and the dynamic founders bringing rapid change to slow-moving industries. From law, to hardware, to aviation, Will Summerlin interviews founders backed by Benchmark, Greylock, and more to learn how they're automating at the frontiers in entrenched industries.

    Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6YQZkKHN7EP2yWedAvSxBC?si=18377c69a2804333

    Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/autopilot-with-will-summerlin/id1738163836

    --

    SPONSOR: BEEHIIV | BRAVE | SQUAD

    Head to Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth, to power your own. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. 🐝to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "UPSTREAM" for 20% off your first three months.


    Get first-party targeting with Brave’s private ad platform: cookieless and future proof ad formats for all your business needs. Performance meets privacy. Head to https://brave.com/brave-ads/ and mention “MoZ” when signing up for a 25% discount on your first campaign.


    💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

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    Timestamps:

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:46) The Friedman Family's Intellectual Lineage

    (03:18) Market Failures and Government Intervention

    (06:11) Privatizating Everything

    (09:33) The Mechanics of Anarcho-Capitalism

    (12:47) Why David Isn't a Utilitarianism

    (16:33) Midroll: Brave | Turpentine

    (18:19) David's Moral Framework

    (23:36) Is Global Coordination Possible?

    (30:46) Privatizing Military and National Defense

    (32:54) Addressing Poverty in an Anarcho-Capitalist World

    (35:40) Competitive Dictatorship

    (40:54) Historical Precedents for Private Law

    (42:31) The Inefficiency of Governments

    (44:06) Coordination under Decentralization vs Centralization & Surveillance Capitalism

    (55:07) Law & Punishment under Anarcho-Capitalism

    (58:28) The Problems with Restorative Justice

    (01:07:31) Addressing Common Criticisms of Market Systems

    (01:14:41) Exploring the Moral Case for Economic Growth

    (01:16:26) Existential Risks from Global Warming, AI, Nanotech, and Biotech

    (01:18:49) The Market's Short-Term vs. Long-Term Dilemma

    (01:20:13) Utilitarian Thought Experiment

    (01:22:03) Income Sharing Agreements

    (01:26:20) Equality of Opportunity vs. Outcome

    (01:30:15) Why Do We Care about Equality?

    (01:47:40) Anarcho-Capitalism and Crypto

    (01:51:04) David's Legacy

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    LINKS:

    David's Website: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/

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    X / TWITTER:

    https://twitter.com/eriktorenberg (Erik)

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    Upstream is a production from Turpentine

    Producer: Sam Kaufman

    Editor: Eul Jose Lacierda

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    E51: How We Build More Housing with Brad Hargreaves & Noah Smith Mar 22, 2024
    Show notes

    In this special roundtable episode, Erik Torenberg is joined by Brad Hargreaves (the founder of Common, co-founder of General Assembly, and writer of Thesis Driven) and Noah Smith (podcast host, economist and writer of Noahpinion). They discuss the future of real estate and housing in America, the impact of regulations, and the potential of new cities.


    📖 RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    Econ 102 is Noah and Erik's podcast diving into the news, business, culture and society from the lens of economics. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/econ-102-with-noah-smith-and-erik-torenberg/id1696419056


    Thesis Driven is a podcast hosted by Brad Hargreaves features conversations with the leading voices at the intersection of real estate, cities, innovation, and the built world. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thesis-driven-leader-series/id1724813949


    **These shows are produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at erik@turpentine.co.


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    SPONSOR: BEEHIIV | BRAVE | SQUAD

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    💥 Access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to choosesquad.com and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist.

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    Links:

    Noahpinion’s https://www.noahpinion.blog

    Thesis Driven https://www.thesisdriven.com/

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    X / TWITTER:

    @bhargreaves (Brad)

    @eriktorenberg (Erik)

    @noahpinion (Noah)

    @TurpentineMedia (Turpentine)


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    TIMESTAMPS

    (00:00) Intro

    (00:28) Understanding Real Estate Economics

    (01:34) Role of Technology in Real Estate

    (02:22) 2008 Financial Crisis and Real Estate

    (06:31) Role of Banks in Real Estate

    (10:14) Future of Real Estate and Housing

    (16:01) Sponsor: Brave | Turpentine

    (17:44) Impact of Regulations

    (24:51) Real Estate Architecture’s Evolution

    (29:48) Role of Developers in Real Estate

    (40:21) Challenges of Building State Capacity

    (51:53) Potential of New Cities

    (01:00:33) Success of New Urbanist Towns

    (01:01:53) Wrap


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