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    Travis Makes Money

    You can’t save your way to your dream life anymore. The truth is, you’re gonna need to learn to make more money. The Travis Makes Money Podcast is not your typical personal finance show. Rather than shaming you for buying a Starbucks coffee or pressuring you to become a billionaire, we focus on empowering you to make more money so you can enjoy life today while preparing for your future. You don’t have to cut back so much that you miss out on the present, and you don’t need to become the next Jeff Bezos either. Hosted by veteran podcaster Travis Chappell, each daily episode features interviews with regular people just like you – yes, you – who have learned how to make more money in unique and unconventional ways. From turning side hustles into an extra six figures to building massive business empires, these conversations dive into the mindset shifts, hard-earned lessons, and simple strategies that helped these individuals succeed. With over 1,000 podcast episodes under his belt, Travis has developed a unique ability to pull out inspiring stories and practical advice you can apply to your own financial journey that you just won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you’re looking for strategies on side hustles, skill building, investing, building generational wealth, or just motivation to take your next steps, this podcast is your resource. Tune in daily for insights, actionable tips, and inspiration from some of the most successful and interesting money-makers on the planet.

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    Make Money by Learning The Psychology of Leadership | Sebastien Page Nov 18, 2025
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    On this episode, Travis sits down with Sebastien Page, author of The Psychology of Leadership and Chief Investment Officer at T. Rowe Price. With over 20 years of experience managing $500 billion in assets, Sebastien brings deep insight into finance, leadership, and performance psychology. He combines academic research, practical investing experience, and a passion for teaching financial literacy to provide unique perspectives on money, stress, and personal growth.

    On this episode we talk about:

    • Sebastien’s early experiences making money and the influence of his parents on his financial mindset.

    • How to teach kids about money, compound interest, and investing in a way that sticks.

    • The psychology of stress and how to use it to improve performance rather than avoid it.

    • Lessons from sports psychology applied to leadership and high-stakes decision-making.

    • Surprising insights from research on intelligence, grit, and lifelong financial success.

    Top 3 Takeaways

    1. Understanding and optimizing stress is crucial for peak performance—stress isn’t the enemy, it can be fuel.

    2. Teaching children financial literacy early creates lasting habits and empowers them to make smarter decisions.

    3. Success in life and money is influenced more by personality, resilience, and grit than raw intelligence.

    Connect with Sebastien Page:

    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastien-page

    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sebastienpagebook/


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    Make Money by... Studying Astrology? Nov 17, 2025
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    In this episode, Travis Chappell is joined by his producer Eric.Together, they break down some of the wildest viral success clips on the internet—from astrology-based basketball theories to Grant Cardone proclaiming you “can’t live” on $400K a year—and explore the real lessons hiding underneath the noise.

    On this episode we talk about:

    • Why absurd “success hacks” go viral, including the astrology clip about Michael Jordan

    • The difference between motivation, marketing, and manipulation in the online guru world

    • Whether Grant Cardone is right—or way off—when he says $400K isn’t enough

    • How polarizing personalities weaponize attention for growth

    • What “thinking bigger” actually means (and what it doesn’t)

    Top 3 Takeaways

    1. Viral guru content often succeeds because it's theatrical, not because it’s true.

    2. Income numbers are meaningless without personal context—freedom math > flex math.

    3. You can embrace big thinking without adopting the extremes or gimmicks of online gurus.

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    Make Money by Doing Things a Better Way Nov 16, 2025
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    Nelson Repenning and Don Kieffer are longtime collaborators and professors at the MIT Sloan School of Management. With nearly 30 years of combined research, leadership experience, and hands-on work inside major organizations, they specialize in fixing broken systems, developing leaders, and helping teams operate at peak performance. They are co-authors of the new book There’s Got to Be a Better Way, a practical, field-tested guide to improving how people work.

    On this episode we talk about:

    • How Nelson and Don each earned their very first dollar

    • Why early childhood experiences shape lifelong money habits

    • Practical ways parents can teach kids about money today

    • The surprising paths that led both professors into higher education

    • How a chance meeting at Harley-Davidson sparked a 30-year collaboration

    • Why fixing knowledge work is harder than fixing factory work

    • The origin story behind their new book and why it finally came together

    • What teaching leaders revealed about how people actually learn

    • Why improving work makes companies more profitable and people happier

    Top 3 Takeaways

    1. Improving work isn’t about grinding harder — it’s about designing systems that allow people to succeed.

    2. Kids learn more from watching how adults handle money than from any formal lesson.

    3. Long-term collaboration thrives when partners bring different strengths but share the same mission.

    Notable Quotes

    • “If you want better results, you don’t fix the people — you fix the work.”

    • “Kids learn about money by seeing how you treat it, not by what you tell them.”

    • “The moment we started teaching our ideas, we realized how much more we had to learn.”

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    Make Money by Understanding What Your Time Is Actually Worth Nov 15, 2025
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    In this episode, Travis and producer Eric break down the modern “buy back your time” culture—everything from viral clips glamorizing $400/month haircuts to outsourcing every basic task. Eric brings his media and production perspective, while Travis adds years of entrepreneurial insight, creating a practical, funny, and eye-opening look at what actually matters when it comes to time, money, and priorities.

    On this episode we talk about:

    • The rise of “alpha bro” outsourcing content and why so much of it is performative

    • When paying to save time is genuinely smart—and when it’s just a flex

    • The psychology behind choosing what to do yourself vs. hiring it out

    • Why cooking at home, reading books, and doing the obvious can be a real competitive advantage

    • How Travis evaluates whether a time-saving purchase is actually worth it

    Top 3 Takeaways

    1. Not every “time-saving hack” is a hack—some are expensive distractions disguised as productivity.

    2. Buying back your time only works when you reinvest that time into something meaningful or profitable.

    3. Common sense executed consistently beats flashy shortcuts every single time.

    Notable Quotes

    • “Your time is your only non-renewable asset—so spend money intentionally, not impulsively.”

    • “Some of these viral hacks aren’t hacks… they’re just flexes with a motivational caption.”

    • “Doing the obvious becomes a superpower when everyone else is looking for shortcuts.”

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    Make Money by Doing This in Your Twenties Nov 14, 2025
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    On this episode, Travis reacts to an old video of his 26-year-old self giving advice to young people in their late teens and early 20s. Eric—Travis’ producer—plays the video for him, and together they break down what young Travis got right, what he’d revise today, and why early career decisions matter more than most people realize.


    On this episode we talk about:


    • Why “getting a job” isn’t selling out—and how to earn while you learn
    • The value of working for someone you admire instead of a random employer
    • Why your 20s should be a decade of experimentation, skill stacking, and trying new things
    • The importance of spending money on experiences and learning instead of flashy purchases
    • How communication skills (door-to-door, telemarketing, network marketing) can transform your career


    Top 3 Takeaways


    1. Early career jobs are an opportunity to get paid to learn, especially when you align yourself with people you admire.
    2. Your 20s should be used for experimenting broadly so you don’t lock yourself into the wrong path too early.
    3. Invest in experiences, relationships, and skill development—not things that depreciate and don’t move your life forward.


    Notable Quotes


    “Earn while you learn—don’t underestimate the value of having a job.”


    “Skill stacking in your 20s helps you out-earn everyone else in your 30s and 40s.”


    “Travel is one of the most underrated personal development activities out there.”

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    Make Money with Golf Training | Sean O'Brien Nov 13, 2025
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    Sean O’Brien is a serial entrepreneur, Shark Tank alum, and founder of Swingzy, a golf training tool designed to help players make smoother, more consistent swings. He’s also the former CTO and CMO of Autio, a venture-backed startup co-founded by Kevin Costner and supported by major brands like Camping World and Snapchat. Known for turning down one of the biggest offers in Shark Tank history, Sean has built and sold multiple companies while staying at the forefront of tech, marketing, and product innovation.

    On this episode we talk about:

    • How Sean turned rejection from Goldman Sachs into his first million-dollar business

    • The wild story behind his eight-figure company that started with a beach chair in storage

    • The mindset shift that turns rejection into motivation

    • How he landed the Entrepreneur Magazine cover by sheer persistence

    • Working with Kevin Costner and other celebrity partnerships

    • The creation and growth of Swingzy and its impact on the golf industry

    Top 3 Takeaways

    1. Rejection can be your greatest motivator—if you use it as fuel instead of failure.

    2. Execution always outweighs ideas; what matters is taking consistent, bold action.

    3. Reinvention is the key to long-term success—keep evolving with each new opportunity.

    Notable Quotes

    • “If you get rejected, your job is to make the people who passed on you look stupid. That’s the fuel.”

    • “Ideas are worthless until you execute. Everyone’s got a million-dollar idea, but almost no one acts.”

    • “Every setback I’ve ever had eventually turned into my biggest opportunity.”

    Connect with Sean O’Brien:


    X – https://x.com/gatsby

    LinkedIn — https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanob

    Company — https://www.swingzy.com

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    Make Money by Treating Cash...Like Trash? Nov 12, 2025
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    In this episode, Travis Chappell sits down with his producer Eric for a candid conversation on money mindset, investing, and why “playing it safe” can sometimes be the riskiest move of all. Together, they unpack what it really means to make your money work for you—and why saving alone won’t build long-term wealth.

    On this episode we talk about:

    • The truth behind Grant Cardone’s “cash is trash” mentality

    • When saving money becomes a liability instead of a strength

    • How to balance liquidity with long-term investing

    • Using debt as a tool for leverage rather than a burden

    • Why calculated risk is essential to escaping financial stagnation

    Top 3 Takeaways

    1. Cash has a purpose—but it’s not growth. Savings should be a safety net, not a strategy.

    2. Good debt accelerates progress. When used intentionally, debt can be the difference between staying stuck and scaling up.

    3. Smart risk-taking builds wealth. The biggest financial wins come from understanding and embracing measured risk, not avoiding it.

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    Make Money by Manifesting the Business of Your Dreams | Betsy Fore Nov 11, 2025
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    Betsy Fore is a serial entrepreneur, CEO, and investor with nearly 20 years of leadership experience. She’s the author of Built on Purpose: Discover Your Deep Inner Why and Manifest the Business of Your Dreams, founding partner of Velveteen Ventures, and a trailblazer in consumer products for children and the planet. Notably, Betsy scaled Tiny Organics past $13 million in revenue in just 24 months, took Wonder Woof! from scrappy startup to Oprah’s Favorite Things, and was the first Native American woman to raise a Series A for a consumer food startup.

    On this episode we talk about:

    • Growing up in a small Midwestern town, working every day since 13, and becoming a leading business creator

    • Turning a garage-tinkering childhood into a career as a toy inventor, then product startup founder

    • How relentless optimism, reinvention, and standing atop “a mountain of failures” led to big wins

    • Advice for founders: building with community, manifesting vision, securing funding, and the importance of thinking big—even if you’re starting small

    • Behind the scenes of Tiny Organics’ explosive first-year growth, building a cult following, and scaling product through grass-roots founding families

    Top 3 Takeaways

    1. Every breakthrough product stands on a mountain of failed attempts; grit and adaptability win.

    2. Community-first feedback loops create true brand evangelists and drive authentic scale.

    3. Dreaming big isn’t just mindset—it’s a practical approach to manifesting opportunity and wealth wherever you start.

    Notable Quotes

    • “For every success, there’s a mountain of failures you’re standing on.”

    • “You have to feel your deep inner ‘why’ to reveal it and build on it.”

    • “Not every company needs to be venture-backed, but every founder can build generational wealth by manifesting their vision.”

    Connect with Betsy Fore:

    • Website: betsyfore.com

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    Make Money by Getting Out of Debt | Thomas Nitzsche Nov 11, 2025
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    Thomas Nitzsche is a financial educator, media spokesperson, and Vice President of Media and Brand at Money Management International — the largest nonprofit credit counseling agency in the U.S. After facing his own financial struggles during the Great Recession, Thomas turned his hardship into purpose, helping thousands of Americans overcome debt, rebuild their credit, and regain control of their financial lives.

    On this episode we talk about:

    • Thomas’ journey from a small Illinois farm to becoming a national voice for financial literacy
    • The emotional toll of debt and why financial shame keeps people stuck
    • How to choose between debt management and debt settlement programs
    • The biggest money mistakes people make when trying to get out of debt
    • What Thomas learned after cashing out his 401(k) — and what he’d do differently today

    Top 3 Takeaways

    1. You can’t budget your way out of shame. Financial freedom starts with removing the emotional barriers around money.
    2. Debt management isn’t failure — it’s strategy. Knowing your options can save you thousands in interest and fees.
    3. Financial health takes time. Getting out of debt is a process, not an overnight success story.

    Notable Quotes

    “You didn’t get into debt overnight — you’re not going to get out of it overnight.”

    “Hope is not a financial plan.”

    “Money doesn’t define your worth — but understanding it can define your future.”


    Connect with Thomas Nitzsche:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomaspnitzsche


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    Make Money as the FIRST and ONLY Female NBA Scout in History | Bonnie-Jill Laflin Nov 10, 2025
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    Bonnie-Jill Laflin is a trailblazer in the world of sports — the first and only female NBA scout in history, a former NFL cheerleader for the Dallas Cowboys and San Francisco 49ers, a sports broadcaster, and founder of the nonprofit Hounds and Heroes. From modeling at age three to scouting for the Lakers dynasty under Phil Jackson, Bonnie-Jill has shattered glass ceilings in some of the most male-dominated spaces in sports and media.

    On this episode we talk about:

    • How Bonnie-Jill became the first and only female NBA scout

    • The behind-the-scenes reality of being an NFL and NBA cheerleader

    • Lessons learned from sports legends like Jerry Jones, Jerry Buss, and Phil Jackson

    • The business and branding genius behind the Cowboys Cheerleaders

    • How discipline, mindset, and mental toughness shape lasting success

    Top 3 Takeaways

    1. Breaking barriers takes preparation, persistence, and confidence — not permission.

    2. Branding and business savvy are just as important as athletic skill in the world of sports.

    3. True leadership blends intellect, mindfulness, and empathy — lessons Bonnie-Jill learned firsthand from Phil Jackson.

    Notable Quotes

    • “I didn’t want to just be around sports — I wanted to be in sports.”

    • “Phil Jackson didn’t just coach players; he taught them how to think.”

    • “The Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders were one of the biggest brands in the world — we just didn’t get paid like it.”

    Connect with Bonnie-Jill Laflin:

    https://hoo.be/bonniejill

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