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    The Voices of War

    ‘The Voices Of War’ is guided by a simple vision—to scratch below the simple narratives of war.

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    29. The Story Behind ‘The Voices Of War‘ Sep 15, 2021
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    Since starting 'The Voices of War', many people have asked me how this podcast came about.
    A few weeks ago, I was interviewed by Pascal Gemperli who runs the popular 'Conflict transformation, Peacebuilding and Security' (CoPeSe) group. Pascal was kind enough to give me ample time and space to share a bit of my own background and the story behind The Voices of War podcast. We touched upon my early experiences as a refugee, life in the Army, the story behind starting CrossFit Sarajevo, my exposure to the world of development work and ultimately the motivations behind the podcast.
    Many thanks to Pascal for this opportunity. You can find out more about his 40,000+ members community, 'Conflict transformation, Peacebuilding and Security', at www.copese.org/ or by searching for CoPeSe on LinkedIn, Facebook or YouTube.


    28. Sahar Fetrat - On the plight of women and girls in Afghanistan Sep 13, 2021
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    My guest today is Sahar Fetrat, a young Afghan living and studying in London. Born in Afghanistan but forced to flee when she was only one year old, Sahar returned with her family to Kabul when she was 10 and stayed there until graduating from university. She then moved to Budapest to pursue her first Masters at the Central European University before moving onto her second Masters in War Studies at King’s College London, where she is currently a student.

    Sahar introduces herself as a ‘feminist who’s navigating her way between activism and academia’—a journey that has seen her produce short films as well as becoming a prominent social commentator. During her relatively short, but impactful career, Sahar has directed two short films, one called ‘- this is Kabul’ and the other ‘Do not trust my silence’, with the latter winning a best film prize at an Italian short-film festival. Both films seek to challenge the position Afghan women and girls hold in that society. More recently, Sahar has published articles that seek to highlight the struggle of women and girls in her homeland, an issue particularly relevant now that the Taliban has returned to power.

    Some of the topics we covered are:

    • Life of a child refugee
    • Kabul during the ‘peaceful’ years
    • Answering the call of activism
    • Failure of ‘black and white’ narratives
    • Defining feminism
    • Role models that influenced Sahar
    • The story of ‘Do not trust my silence’
    • Lived experience of women and girls in Afghanistan
    • Camera as a weapon against inequality and abuse
    • Taliban attack on Sahar’s university
    • Losing her mother and father
    • Scars of war and importance of legitimising emotions
    • The current situation in Afghanistan
    • The power of individual action

    Sahar mentioned a program, ‘Sahar Speaks’, that introduced her to the power of the camera. That same program has recently helped resettle two dozen alumnae in host nations around the globe. You can find out more about their struggles and help nurture their journalism careers at the following link:

    https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/resettle-afghan-women-sahar-speaks-reporters


    27. Dr Ghassan Jawad Kadhim - Still ‘The Last Optimist In Baghdad‘? Sep 06, 2021
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    My guest today is Dr Ghassan Jawad Kadhim, who is a political advisor and analyst of politics of the Middle East. His expertise lies in his own homeland, Iraq, where he has spent nearly twenty years supporting dialogue and development. He has worked extensively with local as well as international actors on diverse projects seeking to promote national reconciliation, co-existence, and peacebuilding. He has served as an adviser on anti-corruption, security, and political stability.

    Ghassan is one of those people who seems to know everyone and is never far from decision makers. His enthusiasm to get things done has been publicly recognised in a book written about his life and contribution to Iraq by Dr Brian Brivati, a British historian, in his 2016 book ‘The Last Optimist In Baghdad’.

    Some of the topics we covered are:

    • Becoming the ‘Key-maker’
    • Ghassan’s personal experience of torture at the hands of his own countrymen
    • The power of perspective in shaping narratives
    • The complexity of Iraq
    • The progressive destabilisation of Iraq over decades
    • Issues with domestic leaders and why they are stifling progress
    • Complexity of governance in Iraq
    • The birth and impact of ISIS
    • Interests of regional and global actors
    • Possible ‘redrawing’ of maps of Iraq and the region
    • Was the invasion of 2003 worth it?
    • The ‘curse’ of oil
    • What the future holds for Iraq

    26. LTCOL Dave Grossman - On killing, combat, sleep, ’blind spots’ and everything else in between Aug 30, 2021
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    Today, my guest is LTCOL Dave Grossman. He requires very little introduction, as I’m sure most of my audience will be intimately familiar with his books, most notably the one that has revolutionised the way we think and talk about combat. The book is of course ‘On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society’, which was nominated for a Pulitzer Prize; has been translated into multiple languages; is on the US Marine Corps Commandant’s Required Reading List; and is required reading at the FBI academy and numerous other academies and colleges around the world.

    He is now the director of the ‘Killology Research Group’ and is on the road almost 300 days a year, training elite military and law enforcement organisations worldwide about the reality of combat.

    During our chat, we discussed a range of topics, including

    • Non-firers in combat and how we made killing a conditioned response
    • How anonymity can enable violence and the importance of non-verbal communication
    • The logic behind the term ‘killology’
    • What LTCOL Grossman means by the phrase ‘no pity party, no macho man’
    • Sleep deprivation and its effects on our societies
    • The issue with high doses of caffeine in energy drinks
    • The impact of sleep deprivation on ethical decision making in soldiers and first responders
    • Social blind spots and how they impact our decision making
    • The blind spot of creating a generation desensitised to violence and war
    • How medical technology decreases murder and death rate, and thereby hides an increase in violence
    • How otherwise good people come to do bad things, particularly in war
    • ‘Killing enabling factors’ and how they can lead to atrocities
    • ‘The virus of violent crime’ and its implications for our future
    • The need to understand causes of violence, not means to carry it out
    • The power and danger of information

    Since I’ve barely scratched the surface of LTCOL Grossman’s extensive biography, you can find an extended version here. You can find a list of other books he has written over the years, including the two mentioned in our chat—'On Combat' and 'Assassination Generation'—here.


    25. Dr Mike Martin & Dr Christopher Ankersen - Afghanistan Update and Future Aug 28, 2021
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    Today, I’m speaking with Dr Mike Martin and Dr Christopher Ankersen. I have spoken with Mike at the beginning of this crisis (link here) as well as a few months back (link here). Suffice to say that he is considered an expert on Afghanistan and is the author of the book ‘An Intimate War’, considered by many as the most authoritative book on the political, social and economic dynamics of Afghanistan.

    Dr Christopher Ankersen is an Associate Professor at the Centre for Global Affairs at NYU. Prior to joining NYU, he enjoyed a colourful and eclectic career which includes being a security adviser for the UN, as well as serving in the Canadian Armed Forces for more than a decade. Throughout his career he has taught at the London School of Economics, the London Centre for International Relations, King’s College London, Carleton University, and the Royal Military College of Canada. He has also lectured at staff colleges in Canada, Australia, and Denmark. A link to his full bio is here.

    Mike and Christopher join me on Saturday the 28th of August, just before 0500h Kabul time, to discuss the ongoing situation in Afghanistan and its implications for the region and the world.

    You can find Mike's and Christopher's article titled 'The Taliban, not the West, won Afghanistan's technological war', here.


    24. Hizbullah Khan - On the current situation and the future of Afghanistan Aug 23, 2021
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    Today, I once again spoke with Hizbullah, an Afghan security analyst and journalist, who remains in Kabul. We recorded our first discussion on 17th of August, only a day after the Taliban took control of Kabul where we discussed how we got to where we are now (you can access that episode here). Today, we spoke about the current situation and what the future might hold for the people of Afghanistan.


    23. Ehsaan - The Life of a Coalition Interpreter in Afghanistan Aug 22, 2021
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    Today, I spoke with Ehsaan who came to Australia in December 2013 as a refugee from Afghanistan. He worked as an interpreter first for the Americans, then the Dutch and finally for Australian forces from 2009- 2013, He was ultimately resettled to Australia with his family due to an increasing threat to his life. He joins me today to discuss the reality faced by many of those who have worked with Australians and other coalition forces over the past 20 years. Ehsaan is someone who has personally experienced the fear and uncertainty that many are going through in Afghanistan today. During our chat, I use only his first name and do not talk about where he is from directly, as he still has family on the ground, whose safety remains uncertain.


    22. Hizbullah Khan - Situation in Afghanistan as seen by a local analyst and journalist Aug 17, 2021
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    This morning I spoke with Hizbullah Khan, a journalist and political analyst, who has been writing about the war and terrorism in Afghanistan since 2014. He has reported for outlets like the BBC World, The Independent, The Diplomat, The Globe Post and many other global publications. He joins me on the morning of 17th of August from Kabul, where it’s a few hours past midnight, to discuss the unfolding situation.


    21. Dr Kay Danes - On Interpreters and Locally Employed Staff stuck in Kabul Aug 16, 2021
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    *** Before reading the rest of the show notes, keep in mind that, as at 21st of Nov, Kay and her team have successfully assisted over 3500 Afghan-Australian visa holders from Afghanistan. Keep this amazing feat in the back of your mind while your read the notes and listen to the episode.***

    My guest today is Dr Kay Danes, OAM. She is the recipient of the Medal of the Order of Australia for her service to the international and Australian community in human rights & social justice.

    Kay has a PhD (Law & Justice) and her thesis explored the evolving professionalisation of the Australian Humanitarian sector. She also holds a Masters degree (Human Rights), and varying professional qualifications in Business Administration, Security and Law.

    Her 25-year security and humanitarian career has spanned across Australian and foreign government departments, humanitarian, and private sector organisations in armed conflicts, disasters, and other complex emergencies.

    Kay is also extensively connected to the ADF. She is the spouse of an SAS Veteran who has served 43 years in the ADF/SOCOMD and was Regimental Sergeant Major of two Special Operations Task Group rotations in Afghanistan.

    More recently, Kay’s work in Afghanistan has been recognised by Australian and Foreign Officials as an integral part of a national debate on Australia’s commitment to Afghanistan.

    Today she advocates for the 196 Australian Embassy staff seeking protection and evacuation from Kabul. Given the current situation in Afghanistan, hers is an important voice representing those who helped the Australian effort over the past 20 years.


    20. Dr Mike Martin - Update on unfolding situation in Afghanistan Aug 15, 2021
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    Today, I spoke with Dr Mike Martin about the current situation in Afghanistan. As there is a lot of international interest in the unfolding crisis, I am releasing the episode slightly ahead of my regular publishing cycle and only two hours since recording.

    You can hear Dr Mike’s full bio in our previous episode linked below as well as through his own website, which is also linked below. In short, Dr Mike has spent years studying Afghanistan, served there as a British Army Officer, did his PhD on British involvement in Helmand, is a fluent Pashto speaker and is the author of the book ‘An Intimate War’, considered by many Afghanistan experts as the most-authoritative book on the dynamics and true nature of conflict in this part of the world.

    You can listen to our previous episode here, find out more about Mike’s work here and follow his Twitter feed @ThreshedThought.


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