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    The VIN-dow Podcast

    We talk weekly with Robert Hollenshead, a serial entrepreneur, the World’s Largest Automotive wholesaler (R. Hollenshead Auto Sales) and visionary behind disruptive automotive industry solutions including: Accu-Trade, Galves Market Data, MADE-Logistics, Headstart VMS. LLC, AutoMoto Social, AutoMoto HR, WreckCheck and PuroClenz.

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    "Data Driven Decisions, Not Opinions" feat. Robert Hollenshead, David Long, and Chris Olsen May 28, 2021
    Show notes

    After Bob sold Trade In Marketplace to Cox automotive, now Kelly Blue Book Instant Cash Offer, he added retail data to his platform and went to Canada with Accu-Trade in 2015.

    Accu-Trade provides dealers with liquid value (cash for any car), auction value (what you can expect to pay to buy this car in the marketplace or what you can expect to sell the vehicle for in the marketplace), and retail (retail listings and history specific to the region of your choice).

    The three values allow dealers to triangulate and decide if they are the best end user for that VIN or if there might be a better exit strategy.

    If you have automotive IQ, Accu-Trade helps you communicate in a way where argumentative responses are impossible. If we present the facts around the value of the vehicle, the consumer can see the fairness in it.

    "What's it take to make a deal," doesn't create confidence for your customer.

    When describing Accu-Trade, "It levels the playing field and gives us common ground to have a logical, rational conversation with a consumer." To base all decisions in facts. - David Long

    Decisions based on data, not opinion.


    Resolve Marketplace Miscommunication and Fees May 21, 2021
    Show notes

    The platform that enables knowledge prior to ownership, knowledge during ownership, and knowledge through transfer of ownership, will eliminate all post sale arbitration. There would be no reason for $900 auction fees.

    Using data and science, the buyer and seller could use the same platform to co-validate information and communicate would:

    • Eliminate buyer and seller frustration;
    • Overcome miscommunication between a buyer and seller.

    "We’re never going to have a resolution to condition reports when there are 714 options. It’s frustrating for the buyer and seller and nobody can ever get on the same page."

    When does a condition report start? Before you thought about owning the car.

    You’re not waiting for someone to get back to you. All buyers and sellers are motivated to transact.
    Here’s something that solves the frustration of sourcing through the Auction, Service Drive, Digital Retail platform, or on your Showroom floor.
    We go overboard to make sure the little guy doesn’t get hammered.
    If a platform was able to mitigate the most common reasons deals fall apart:

    • A bad description
    • A mechanical issue

    You can’t argue about the condition of a car when everyone is using the same platform for all marketplaces. A universal condition report increases the capability for dealers to communicate pre-trade to post sale.
    Current marketplaces don’t try to hold deals together for anyone, frustrating both the buyer and seller. The marketplace figures you’ll just run the vehicle again. They don’t care.
    Use an NAAA-approved condition report across all marketplaces so we can communicate in a common language. Why would we continue to have 700 different languages and nobody talking to each other?


    Whatever Goes Up, Will Come Down May 14, 2021
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    Podcast TranscriptIt’s been an absolutely irrational, insane market. So let’s talk about that, or talk about where it's going or what happens when it's over.Well, that's something do you know, let the steam out of the brain a little bit in that when you take a second to, you know, take a deep breath, cause you can't even believe that it's happening, what's happening. Right. You know, when you've been around this thing for half a century and at the time when your sneakers are running thin, you bump into this circumstance where it's really it's not realistic. It's, it's so realistic. It's like a fever dream going in the good direction, not on the bad direction. Right? So it's incomprehensible, which is good. You know, when, when you're a kid and you first learn how to ride the wave, right. And you get out there and you can't believe the greatest feeling on earth is when you catch it and it's your slide.And then it's the whole thing. And then what happens when it crashes on top of you? Right? So the post euphoria thing, right? Depending on how good you are, what you're doing, the post euphoria is it's not like you want to ruin the this dream that we're living. Cause it's not going to happen again. You know, the two by four, she's selling two by fours, you're getting 17 bucks. A board used to be nine, ten cents for lumber. So, you know, if you've already bid the job and you're locked in to what you said, you're going to build it before you're out of business. Because you can't get a two by four. Right? So the person you bid the job to doesn't care whether price of lumber went up, right?It's no different than an iPhone. You try to go try to buy an iPhone. Can't, they're all sold out. Different stores came and got them. It's gas, it's blueberries. Right? We got a guy that we buy cars from, you know, every year he just goes out and buys new Rolls versus Porsche Lamborghini for ours and keeps them a month and sells them to us. Right. Because he makes so much money in blueberries. You don't know what to do with it. Book for jets, you know, like blueberries, right out of sight. All right. So this euphoria in the wholesale of the world that we're living as it's going crazy and dealers, I think we're all in a situation. If you're not having a record month, it's a shock. And if you aren't, you're definitely doing better than what you were doing last year at this time when the world was coming to an end.Right. and then the question becomes, are you ready when the wave crashes on you? Right? Cause that wave crashing on your board, pops up, breaks your nose. Now, blood all over the place. You might not even be able to breathe. Then, you know, my feeling is when this wave breaks and you know an unfortunate thing happens like your customers now all own their vehicles for somebody is paying for these cars to bring in 10, 20, 30,000 over sticker, right? Somebody is paying for these cars that are bringing an 18, whatever it is, you look at where the car came from Accu trade. And the sticker price was 47,000 for 52,000 on an auction block with 10,000 miles. So it was really nice one, but it brought 5,000 more than it cost. So that's not real. That's, what's real because that's what the market is.If you're going to do business, that's the commodities price at the barrel head. Like what if you're going to buy? And so of course it's for this, but we think about the waves then crashing, right? Somebody now owns that course. You got it over the curb, you hit a retail profit. That was unbelievable. Even though you paid too much, it wasn't too much because you sold right away. But you know, I'm going to send it to this today. So we're going to sell another thousand cars tomorrow and dealers bring a lot of money. Yeah. But the problem is they're calling and saying, Holy mackerel, you know, we paid too much, but we sold it right away. Made 6,200 on the car. So was it too much? Of course the answer is, of course it's not too much. You paid market value and you sold it for what, what the market would bear.Right. That's easy. However, you know, it's just like getting drunk. It's really funny. I had an unbelievable time. The hangover, right? It's a little bit different, right? If you get me out of this one, I'll never do it again. I swear to God, God just get me. Don't let me die on this one. I swear. I'll never curse again, whole thing. Right? In other words, hail Mary, the whole thing. Right. But that's post euphoria. Right? And from my perspective, after being through the first, second, third gas crisis in the thing and all the other things you don't, when you think about it, when you're in the middle of it, you're looking left and right. And the cool validation, everybody else is doing it, it's okay to do it. The question becomes and of course, from my perspective, anyway, we'll never stop and try to act like we can predict the market.(05:35):It's you gotta be out of your mind. If you do that, typically as soon as you predict the exact opposite occurs, right? It's almost like science, where there's a direct relationship. You've got a magic wand. You predict something. The exact opposite thing happens immediately.. You can push anything because you predicted something and it would automatically then turns out to be something different, right? It's normal. However, in the back of your head, you know, that horse might not come across. You didn't mush it. And as a result, it's like, what do you do when your customer comes back in? Who paid? You paid 4,000 over sticker price. They paid 9,000, every sticker price four years old. And now all of a sudden, like any other person they'd like to change paint, changing nothing to engine.So let's say this thing rides, it's going to last for, I'm not going to say the number could be next week could be six months or no, it might be a year because don't forget. You're not going to be able to get tires next. Right? That's the wholesale issue of tires. Tires are going to be scarce. You can't build new cars, cars can't drive without tires. After there'll be tires and there'll be wires. And there'll be something else who knows. What so predicting when this is going to end is obviously only for fools to do. However, the one thing that's chiseled and granted by God, whoever your God happens to be chiseled and granted, right? Like the, you know, the 10 commandments, whatever goes up will come down. Right. That's guaranteed. And when that happens, I'm not saying that again. We're not going to stop what we're doing.We're going to do it until we hit the wall. Like when we crashed into the wall, that's where we said, Oh geez, the market changed. Right. but the post thing, it's almost like what you would call it from my perspective. Think about it. These people that are getting, they're not getting slammed because they're walking into doors, nobody's tricking them in or nothing. They got to have a new court. Cause it's, you're independent. You're not going anywhere, but you need to have a new court. Anybody knows that that's normal. You got up, got to buy a two by four, got to pay $17 for the one you throw in the trash barrel because they only cost two bucks, bro. And I was 17. So that 2018, F-150 that they paid 63,000 for. Right. and that car in a normal market is going to be 31 five.How do you alert or mastermind your way out of that one? You follow me? And my feeling is because of that. Well service on one hand, I think it's going to go nuts. Just like renovate the house. You can't afford a new one. Therefore you're going to renovate the one you got, you got to paint it and spackle and do different things. Still get spackle. Although Sherwin Williams is out of paint just in case anybody's wandering. Right? So paint at the wholesale level is no longer available. Right? Talk to your Sherwin Williams representative, see how you make out. Right? You got your, a special customer. They'll still get it in for you. But in general, it's another commodity that is, it's not available. Right? So it as a car dealer and nobody has the time to think about this.Cause you got to go find another car and go sell another car. I get that more than anybody could possibly believe. I'm the number one, you know, like proponent of all of that. Right. But what you got to think about in my estimation is post this euphoria. How are you going to actually transact business when there are cars available, right? And your customer is now upset anybody with a trade 60% of the cars. And don't forget, we're now going to change the residual on lease cars, obviously, in order to be competitive, you've got to do that. And the buyout on the lease car turns out to be no, not like it is today for GHG low, to be 10 G low, actually an awful lot of leases. You know, like a Ford pickup truck right now is coming back at 31 G, car’s worth 46 at the auction.But if it's under 120 days, you can't buy it because you know, even the Ford dealer can't buy all of that's different. It don't matter. Right. It's understandable. It's all part of this insanity. Right. But when it happens, did they then Oh, 57 and it's worth 35. I'm not sure exactly how that's going to work out. That's a weird thing. I don't know where the magic wand is coming in. And then you got to do one last thing because I'm thinking about this myself, right? This euphoria is unbelievable. Right. And record everything's records. Right. But now when these folks start changing the tax, right. And it's going from X and it's going to Y and they're talking about a hook to go backwards on the tax. Right. So does euphoria that you're in and you're doing really good. You're even thinking about a jet and all the other things that you can think about.(10:39):Right. And then they start this tax thing, hooking backwards in order to pay for the first 2 trillion. You know, we already did the second 2 trillion. Now nobody can come to work because you know, are getting paid more to stay home. So why in a world where they go to work you know, all of that absolute insanity. And now we're talking about the next two or 3 trillion. Like it's, you know, you just say the word that pops out of the machine, nobody has to pay for it. Right? So now we're going to force people who are in your 40 at the moment, blueberry farmers, you know, two by four Canadian, two by four providers car dealers with cars. Now you're going to actually pay the Piper for the music. Right? And then when the thing goes, the other direction, my feeling is, I don't know if anybody ever had the experience.Right. When I was in the Marine Corps, I was out in camp Pendleton and getting ready to go overseas in 1969. We were at the Pacific ocean, 16 years old, you know, drunk of course on a, on a weekend, on, you know, the minutes leave from camp Pendleton. And we get out a little bit too far. Then next thing you know, we're having a ball, riding the waves, man. And then one of them waves comes in. It was like one of the fifth wave in once it's gone and all of a sudden you're down and you really, really can't figure out how you're going to get out of that. Right? This wave, when it breaks, you see what I'm saying? You might come up for air, but I'm going to tell you with the tax thing going to hit you in the head, cause you made so much money.It's unbelievable. Of course, you're gonna pay taxes. Everybody pays her taxes. So whatever felt so good, record everything. And now you're paying double the amount of tax that you were paying previously. And then you got the cars coming back with wacko out of whack. Oh equity. Because obviously the market never stays high. Right? It's never going to be forever. Like this two by fours will not be $17 a piece forever. I swear to God, they won't. I know you're from Canada, Sean. So I hate to break you the news and so forth, but they're not going to be that way forever. The same way you know 2015 Corvette, because 73,000, who's not going to bring 86,002 years from now. It's not going to do it. And I'm not saying, I know that I'm just saying based on experience, what goes up will come down when it comes down.My feeling is that you know, you gotta be a little bit, not, not where you're worried about doing business today. Cause you can't, you got too many things to do, but you gotta keep that in the back of your head, that when it does, how you going to modify right. And modify everything. So the fact that, you know, there's lots of new marketplaces, more common marketplaces, et cetera, process, and sell to the bottom of horses out the window. That's never going to occur again. That will never be back again, worry about what somebody else is selling and make sure you sell it for less. You know, that's the moot point in a non-existing inventory marketplace. And if you're following that, please just call me. I'll take all of your cars, a hundred percent of them, by the way. Good, bad and indifferent. Cause that's nonsense. How post euphoria does the thing you know, shake out which pieces will work? Are we still going to be completely maniacs about being sure that we have the full thing done for like Carvana, touchless, everything touchless. I think that could work, make an experience different negative, perfect, guaranteed. Everything happens as penny perfect. And everybody gets the car delivered in front of their face, et cetera.But the thing that remains as a weird thing in the back of my little brain is, you know, first make sure you're paying attention to what you paid in tax, because you thought you made 19 million for the year, but you really didn't cause your tax rate change it to be something different. So hopefully we didn't build the overhead and to make sure we thought we made, we didn't make because everything's different. And then how are we going to deal with a handling the out of every, your fork right now? And ADA increased so much the lens it's beautiful. It's unbelievable. I'm sure ALG helped them do that and all the rest of it. Right? It's a little problem is when that reverts. And now everybody wrote their least to match that where everybody financed the match that, and then, and it could happen in July or August or sometime it's going to happen sooner or later.Maybe it's not till next year, this time when it happens. But when it does and you're upside down 27,000 in a $20,000 car, that's going to be tough to deal with because you took that cat out of the market permanently, it's worse than cash for cars, cash for junk, whatever it was called, cash for junkers that ruined our market for buy here, pay your typically it's the end of November. We go goofy. Everybody stock it up for the tax checks. And you know, everybody bought a new Hyundai with a hundred thousand mile warranty because you gave away your trashcan. Obama's brilliant idea. Get it trading and trash. And you know, people bought new cars rather than buy it's free junks for that particular year. I think this is going to be, I could be wrong about it. I want to be wrong. I think the market's going to go up forever.It's never going to come d…

    Full show notes at the publisher

    Flipping Rocks and Looking for Salamanders: Use Your Service Department to Increase Inventory May 07, 2021
    Show notes
    • Sales departments are wondering where to find vehicles to wholesale and retail, without exploring all of the vehicles that are actually brought to their building for service
    • "Squeeze out all the juice" of what's happening at your dealership
    • "Know the answer before asking" -- Don't start a conversation with a potential seller without knowing ALL you can about the vehicle
    • Accu-Trade tools (with OBD scanners) make it fast and easy for all vehicles in the service department to be seen and evaluated by the sales department
    • Mitigate any confusion and disconnect between the sales and service departments

    Replacement Value - The Only Relevant Method Of Retail Pricing Apr 29, 2021
    Show notes

    In this week's episode, Bob shares snapshots of data extracted from Galves and Accu-Trade to showcase why dealers should be buying and pricing based on replacement value, not retail.

    Accu-Trade has information totally unique to our industry because we are traders ourselves.

    “We are by nature traders. We have 1300 years of experience with our little group of folks that have been with us since the beginning of time, 1300 years, 1300 years, individual years of experience in the wholesale business valuation business.

    As a result, our data tends to be a little closer to reality.

    When I say reality, I shouldn't say a little closer to reality, a little closer to a checkbook, not a speculative, theoretical, don't ask me if you really need to do something type of thing, but in other words, a hundred percent, 100% of the time. If you need to check, you can touch the machine and it's going to spit one out. You know, that's just how simple that is. Right? And, and when you reach out, you're actually talking to someone who has had more experience in the open marketplace as individuals, than anybody else in the industry.”

    3:34 - “ All the books and market reports are all lies. They're all lies.”

    5:55 - Stop using oxidized theory about pricing cars to the market. You’re going to get locked out of the market if you keep doing things the way you’ve always done them.

    7:34 - “Well, what's the actual market. It's the commodities market. What's the commodity? It's a VIN. The VIN is a commodity that when you put it in front of all potential best end-users, it comes up with a value within 15 seconds.”

    You can’t sell a car for less than you paid for it.

    10:30 - Nissan isn’t going to be doing it anymore.

    13:00 - Are we going to offer the consumer more money for their vehicle than they paid in 2018? Of course not.

    15:50 - Sooner or later the market is going to shift but nobody has a crystal ball.

    For the Youtube version of this podcast, with pricing examples, please copy and paste this link: https://youtu.be/dzv30e_vUAE


    The Playbook on Selling To The Current Market Apr 23, 2021
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    Selling to the Current Market

    You were talking about how at the beginning of COVID last year and this is quote, quote I was stupid enough to know that we were definitely staying current to the market, so we are selling. So why have you always gone that route, Bob? You're not holding back.

    Oh God, what a good question, Sean. This is really simple. And now we have other people that follow our methodology. One of them I'm referring to is John Wolfe. He's doing unbelievably well with the playbook. So we call it the playbook because it's something that's time tested and trusted because of endless hours of conversation before we would actually implement it.

    And Johnny's implemented it to the hundredth degree, right? Where you can't do certain things to people.

    Inviting People to a Party

    When you invite them to a party, you invite them to a party and you give them, you know, unsweetened lemonade. You follow me and a stale pretzel, right? Well, you asked them to come. They gave you the respect of showing up. They're all dressed up and so forth. Even shined their car to get there, right? And then you throw it in their face because you didn't give them a reason to be there.

    What I'm referring to is,” I need $300 more for that one”. No Sale, No Sale, No Sale. Really OVE started it. When OVE first started over 20 years ago, whatever that number was, right? It's put your no-sales on here and tell everybody you want too much for a car that’s unsellable and that's carried through till today. It happens on all marketplaces.

    You let people list cars on a marketplace that has no relationship to the market, but you're hoping to find somebody to bump their head and pay too much. And sometimes that happens and therefore it's kind of like gambling, put it all on red. And sometimes you win. But when you're all done, the marketplace, it does the same thing. As any other gambler, you're going broke and begging people for toll money to get up the Atlantic city expressway.

    You dig it?

    Attracting People to the Marketplace
    Now from the very first day. What we understand as players is how you attract more people to a marketplace is never, never insult them because they give you the respect of showing up. Never do that. Always take the fear out of any kind of transaction that they find to be not beneficial to them. I'm going to give you a perfect example, from last week We sold a S-Class Mercedes to a dealer, five States away. Low mileage, beautiful car, you know, sport panel, et cetera. Right. And he gets it home and he says the words, ‘why it's got a PDR here” and maybe the thing on the books weren't lined up correctly in the glove box or some craziness.

    You ain't allowed to own it. In other words, you don't sell it because you can't have it.

    What we're really doing when we say that is 1) where we are half Irish, stupid mutts.

    But number 2), you ain't allowed to have no fear coming here. When you come to this party, you will be overfed over, over drunk. You follow me and you will listen to the music that you want to listen to. That's critical mass, right?

    And by eliminating the fear, what do you wind up with? More aggregated people willing to do business. And what you wind up with is a hundred percent sold for market value. You see what I'm saying, Sean?

    When we frustrate people in our own microscopic PVC pipe, two inch PVC pipe that you gotta get every penny for every car, or you're not going to let the other guy participate You invite them to the party and then charge them for the food.

    Nah, nah, I don't think so. The piranha effect will never take place. Where you’re putting blood in the water. Look what just happened.

    The Jerry Springer Effect.

    Now what you wind up with is I would call it laser focus, cause you're not going to miss what can happen on Jerry Springer show. “Look! She slapped his mother right in the mouth. I can't believe that happened.” The Jerry Springer effect.

    In a marketplace, if you don't enable that but instead go with-

    • “I’ll no sale that, we'll run it again.”
    • And Don't worry about giving the buyers bitter fatigue.

    Oh, now we have what you would call chauffeur knowledge, driving the bus. Never been a player. Do not understand the depth of what creates a marketplace, but you own the marketplace. So you must know, unfortunately it’s “chauffeur knowledge”

    You've been there. You saw it, you failed at it, but now you're going to do it again? Nah, that’s chauffeur knowledge. Just look that up someday and read it. You'll love it because it's a fact.

    The truth of the matter is if you don't have skin in the game, in the marketplace, where everybody give you the respect of being there. Every single unit's getting sold. It's Harry Carey's time brother.

    It increases the will of players to come back and repeat the same circumstance to pay too much for cars that they're definitely taking home and selling. In our case, if you did take it home, you couldn't sell it. We'll continue to hold your hand. I ain't going to act like, I don't know your name. You follow me. No what's going to happen is we will help you get back off of that unit.

    The Words No Fear become Blank

    Because if you don't do that, the words, the words, no fear are blank. Daddy-O.

    They're there without meaning you see, in other words, the words, no fear when you're actually not just pontificating, but BS-ing, right?

    That means you're inviting somebody in with the false hope of actually having no fear. The opposite is true. You follow me. And if you actually enable someone to, I don't want to call it trust, but understand there is no possibility of fear. You wind up with the reason why we say every car that goes to a block is on a one way trip.

    Don’t Step on Your Neighbours Poncho

    The other thing that is very interesting is not stepping on your neighbors poncho.

    One of the most irritating things in the Marine Corps that I ever found, right, is you're on a force March.

    You're going from here to there and it's raining and it's freezing cold. And in other words, you're worn out, man. You know what I mean? Even though you're only 17, you're worn out and somebody steps on your poncho… I can distinctly remember three fist fights that this created. Cause I'm not a tough guy. I'm a, I'm a little sissy, three distinct circumstances where I got in a fist fight because somebody stepped on the poncho. Stepping on the poncho is really interesting, right? It's where you want everything. You want to be the buyer and the seller. And you want to be in the retail business and in the wholesale business. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That don't work brother. See, cause you're either in the kitchen or you're in the toilet.

    One of the other, you can't be in both places at one time. Right. And there's different reasons why you're in the kitchen or the toilet. Right? Some places a flush, some places to inhale.

    Right. And from my perspective, when you cross that, when you cross that little bit of an unseen Chisholm, right? You're in dangerous territory. We would never dream of retail on a car. Cause I ain't getting in the business of what our customers give us the respect to participate in whether it's in software or in, in bricks and mortar. We are never going to be there. The temptation has never been there because that, ain't what we do. You follow me.

    What we do is help a dealer:

    1. Initially make a deal.
    2. Cash them instantly. Right? So there is no wait while you're paying something off.
    3. Know that our word is our bond.

    So the tools to bond, our word is our bond. When you said it, you don't have to second guess it or backup, Oh, you farted. And then you had to change your mind and I'll make up a good story. And then we'll not pick it up or something that ain't the way this works. Because as soon as you do it, you follow me. Your word is no longer your bond and you no longer have trust. And now you created fear as opposed to lack of fear. Does any of that make any sense to you? Sean? Did I answer your question?

    Thank you. I needed to hear that myself. So thank you very much.

    My pleasure. I really appreciate it. We'll lay some more down when you got a chance, Sean-ie encourage anybody that has questions to shoot them in there. That we can address that stuff. So it's not just on topics that you were. I feel like we'd want to talk about. I'm happy to do it on anything. Let's call it related to what we do. Don't want to get in a space we don't do because then we'd become a pontificator. You might be talking about marketplaces and not be a player.


    How Does Your Garden (ie: Inventory) Grow? Apr 14, 2021
    Show notes

    You may not know that Bob has been an avid gardener for decades. When it comes to keeping your grounds looking fresh, Bob compares garden plots to dealership inventory in a one to one relationship. He's known for his analogies... and this is one you don't want to miss!

    What you need to manage your used car inventory:

    G-ardener (4:00), A-ttractive (10:00) and Adverse (16:00), R-ub off (9:00), D-ouble Take (7:00), and Dedication (11:00), E-motions (14:32) , N-eeds (13:00)

    G-rowth (6:00), R-econditioning (19:00) , O-ptimizing (4:01) , W-eeding (3:00)

    Limitations:

    • How big is your lot?
    • How much money is available for inventory?
    • Need to know what grows - What is sellable in your market, your demographic, who are your customers?

    Considerations:

    • Adverse selection will cause reduced production.
    • What plants produce the most in your climate? What can grow in the shade? What can't grow in the shade?
    • Rub off: an emotional relationship that impacts the value of the vehicles around it.
      • Ex: A dealer brings in a series of cars that are pruned for sale. Varied items organized correctly, colour well represented, pruned and blooming, seasonally selected.

    Qualities in a Gardener:

    • Attention: your inventory requires concentration on specific information
    • Vigilance: your gardener has to be wary of weeds
    • Intelligence: good at identifying weeds
    • Dedication: time and energy spent on productivity
    • Maintenance: what kind of recon are you doing?
    • Watering: clean cars bring more money in any marketplace

    Watch for:

    • Invasive species competing rather than complimenting other plants.
    • The double take effect creates a subliminal attractions for us. Are you doing a double take when you drive by your lot? You can be drawn to exotic species even if their likelihood of survival is nil. ALTHOUGH... It could strike a customer in the same way, or it could be totally out of the gardens ability to support its production.

    We hope your garden is in full bloom this spring! Thank you for tuning into the VIN-dow Podcast with Robert Hollenhead.


    Three Rules For Wholesale Profits At Your Dealership Apr 07, 2021
    Show notes

    In this week's VIN-dow podcast, Robert shares where wholesale profits are made and why wholesale is no longer a "dirty" word.

    The most successful publicly traded companies are not looking to break even wholesale. Check out their financial statements online. Where you find "wholesale", you will find profits. Carvana and Carmax are doing it!

    Three rules to follow to make a wholesale profit:

    1) Buy right to sell right. Make profit when you acquire, not when you sell. Avoid getting welded into trades by having a measurable, repeatable process in place to trade frequently, and at an advantageous price. When you offer what a car is really worth based on its condition, desirability, and history, you avoid getting welded into the trade.

    2) Ask too little, and get too much. Understand the piranha effect. Carvana strategically asks too little for cars inducing the "piranha effect". By doing this they convert 99% of the time and avoid bidder fatigue (ie: bidding on cars but experiencing IF bids over, and over, and over again)

    3) Acquire challenged cars that you have no interest in retailing. Leverage your service lane. The best opportunity in your dealership? The easiest cars to acquire are the challenged vehicles sitting on your lot. Direct upload the daily RO's into Accu-Trade and have someone printing out live offers on every trade coming through service.

    You won't go to hell if you make a wholesale profit!

    The VIN-dow Podcast is brought to you by Accu-Trade. Do you want to improve your vehicle acquisitions with transactional transparency for your customers? What about the trade-in process?

    Developed by the largest independent wholesale dealer in history, Robert Hollenshead. It’s the same tool they use every day to do their job. Every lesson learned from over $20 Billion in transactions and 900 cumulative years in wholesale is built into the platform. All made easy to understand and available for anyone to use.

    Robert Hollenshead is a serial entrepreneur, the World's Largest Automotive wholesaler (R. Hollenshead Auto Sales) and visionary behind disruptive automotive industry solutions such as:

    Accu-Trade: www.accu-trade.com

    Galves Market Data: https://www.galves.com/

    MADE Logistics: https://made-logistics.com/

    Headstart VMS, LLC: https://www.rhollensheadautosales.com/headstartvms/

    MADE Financial: https://www.rhollensheadautosales.com/made-financial/

    AutoMoto Social: https://www.automotosocial.com/

    AutoMoto HR: https://www.automotohr.com/

    WreckCheck.com: https://www.wreckcheck.com/

    PuroClenz: https://puroclenz.com

    Robert has been and continues to be a game-changing thought leader in the way vehicles are bought and sold today.


    "Cheap" Cars With The "Double-Take Factor" Mar 30, 2021
    Show notes

    In this week’s VIN-Dow podcast Bob explores “Cheap” cars. It’s a discussion worth listening to as we and automotive dealerships navigate the hyper-market we are currently in.

    Listen in as Bob defines:

    • Those “cheap” cars that may seem cheap based on the market information at your disposal, but become very expensive when you can’t sell them.
    • And the actual “cheap” cars, that have the “double-take factor” for your clientele that move the metal.


    The VIN-dow Podcast is brought to you by Accu-Trade. Do you want to improve your vehicle acquisitions with transactional transparency for your customers? What about the trade-in process?

    Developed by the largest independent wholesale dealer in history, Robert Hollenshead. It’s the same tool they use every day to do their job. Every lesson learned from over $20 Billion in transactions and 900 cumulative years in wholesale is built into the platform. All made easy to understand and available for anyone to use.

    Robert Hollenshead is a serial entrepreneur, the World's Largest Automotive wholesaler (R. Hollenshead Auto Sales) and visionary behind disruptive automotive industry solutions such as:

    Accu-Trade: www.accu-trade.com

    Galves Market Data: https://www.galves.com/

    MADE Logistics: https://made-logistics.com/

    Headstart VMS, LLC: https://www.rhollensheadautosales.com/headstartvms/

    MADE Financial: https://www.rhollensheadautosales.com/made-financial/

    AutoMoto Social: https://www.automotosocial.com/

    AutoMoto HR: https://www.automotohr.com/

    WreckCheck.com: https://www.wreckcheck.com/

    PuroClenz: https://puroclenz.com

    Robert has been and continues to be a game-changing thought leader in the way vehicles are bought and sold today.


    If You Don't Got 'Em, You Can't Sell 'Em! Mar 18, 2021
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    When Covid First HitYou know, last year on this day is when it officially became a disaster of the world, right? In other words: everybody's shutting down.You didn't know what you were going to do with cars.Some people said they were smart enough to understand that they should keep them.I was stupid enough to know that we're definitely staying current to the market so we are selling. And we did exactly that. We stayed current throughout the disaster…What materialized during the past 12 monthsand then came out the other side to be the brightest days in the history of the wholesale business, right?Where:if you were a seller you couldn't make a mistake, if somebody paid you to make a mistake, you couldn't do it. You could be Stevie Wonder and just randomly buy anything on four wheels, bring it through a block.And if you had no sale that it could only be because you need to get I would call it admitted to an insane asylum.And as long as you could get them, you could make money.What’s Happening NowSo what we got going on now is, I would say, version two. It's version two, where we're watching coast to coast, wherever we're pricing, buying and selling cars. We're watching cars, a higher percentage of cars that are bringing way more money... Since our data shows us in Accu-trade where the car has been, the pecker tracks of that vehicle, since it was born. We're seeing way more cars that are selling wholesale for more than they were asking retail last year. Last year, you know, retail price, $53 G ca brings $57,000 on the auction block today.What this is doing to the buy/sell guides - If you were going to do some sort of an intellectual study of things and you'd come up that there must be something wrong with the data, cause this is not possible. Somebody doesn't know what they're doing. That's a pontificators point of view. Cause a pontificator are not traders, they're not buyers and sellers. They're not active. They're not on the field. They're in the stands. And they learn throughout their classes of graduate level statistics, so forth. There's certain norms and there's anomalies and there's all kinds of other things. And when, when something doesn't make any sense, they throw the outliers out. We see that actually on MMR. In other words, the stars (*) next to the results are outliers. Outliers mean they brought something that the computer in the AI and the pontificator can't understand.So in order to come to a number that makes sense, they've got to throw them out because you can't explain it. Therefore it becomes outside the data set that the people pontificators use to tell everybody what's good and what's bad and why it went up one quarter of a 10th of a percent.. Which translates into what I would call noise. I guess initially you would say that they do that for the people that buy and sell cars would have some guidance in terms of desirability and where the market direction is going. But it turns out to be only good for other pontificators and has nothing to do with a trader. A person who's their job and their livelihoods based on understanding how they're going to find cars, how they're getting rid of cars, why they get rid of cars and where they do it. All the rest of the things that have started since the beginning of time.Now what Accu-trade does as we look at this..., and, you know, obviously we are involved with buying/selling thousands of cars and we're up a couple hundred thousand appraisals a day here. We're actually in the middle of something that if you're going to talk to a trader or a person like a used car manager, a used car dealer, or somebody whose livelihood is directly related... Or a dealer principal, whose investment is their portfolio of cars, right? They also have 401ks and stock accounts with professionals to tell them how to buy and sell stock. It’s the exact scenario.In other words I think what we extract and what we observe, and then hopefully what we'd be able to help people understand are the anomalies that don't make any sense, but they have to make sense because otherwise you become an in lane pontificator, even if you're not in lane.The Self-Defense Mechanism of In-lane PontificatorsSo what I mean by that is this Sean-ie. You've been in the auction business a long time. So I think you'll understand this pretty clearly. When a car gets up in the wind and a couple people lock up, three, four people are now locking up on it on the internet and it's banging away and a floor could be, you know, 27 G and a car brings 33 G. You can see where CarMax quit, you can see where Carvana quit. You can see who really is the best end user. And then everybody starts saying, “I don't like grapes”, because you can't reach them. You say you “don't like grapes”.No, the answer would be, “Oh man, he stepped on his balls on that car. Boy, what's he going to do with that? He, he, he killed himself.” Okay. The pontificator, the in-lane pontificator at that point is basically justifying why they don't have the ability to understand why the car brought so much money.And that's like a self defense mechanism, right? “Oh my God, what's he going to do with that car?”First of all, what's the difference. Now there's a willing buyer or a group of willing buyers ran a car to a point where they all got sick of bidding and they don't see how they could actually find a better end user than the person that actually was still standing.The Buying Algorithms at WorkNow, you're starting to see this. I'm watching it very clearly, right? Where I could tell you exactly where certain algorithms from the bigger buyers are set to buy. They're bidding on just about every car. So therefore the pontificator in the lane, once again, say “oh Jeeze they’re buying all the cars' ' They're not, I think we covered that in a previous session. No, they're not. What they're doing is putting it on cruise control and ending their bid at a point where they're happy to own it.And therefore, if they own it, when I look at the statistics, it's rare that the car brought anywhere close to too much money. They bought a car for what it was worth. It could be a little muddy because of equipment or dust or that, or whatever, but they bought a car worth of candy and they need fillers. So they're happy to do that, right?“Fillers” are cars that actually are in the middle of the bell curve that fill the holes up. That's not a point car, and that's not a trick car. Something with, you know, too many miles with a little story to it. But it's so cheap. Anybody in the world can sell it to a, let's call it a different demographic of buyer. You follow me?If you ain't got them, you can't sell them.When you think about it, Seanie and anybody else, that's been in our business for a period of time, the pontificator who loves to throw stones at the person that turned out to be the best end-user. You know what they do?They go home with a car. And you know something, it's really weird how this works. If you ain't got them, you can't sell them. You can't talk about how much cars are bringing to a customer when they walk in the door and they're looking to buy one. If you ain't got them, you definitely can't sell them. You got to have them. Transact with Confidence but it all comes down to this...Now, what that really means is it's all about, you know, when we talk about our tools to commoditize the VIN, and we give you all the statistics and reality and insurance policies around that. So you can transact with confidence. What it really means is the market really will dictate what the value of a VIN is. And, and by the way when you look back and forth to swing of the rhythm of the market in different categories of cars.It gets to a point like we are right now on the anniversary of disaster, we are on the anniversary of the second birth of the craziest, most unexplainable, incredibly dumb thing in the world, which is all based, obviously on what?... you guessed it supply and demand. You follow me. Nobody's Coming in to Buy your Cement Parking BlockersIn other words, when they're aint’ none, and you got to have them, cause it's really hard as piss to sell cement parking blockers, you can't sell them, but you can't drive them. So nobody's coming in to buy your cement parking blocker. You see, you gotta have something instead of the cement parking blockers therefore it's called a car, right? And if you ain't gotta ‘em, you ain't gonna sell them.Any vehicle that falls into any category, that's one that you like, and there's a bunch of other people the same, and there aren't enough of them... like a big shock.They go and bring more money. You see what I'm saying to you?The Books Don’t Catch UpAnd, and so then the, you know, the pontificators also say, “well, you know, the books don't catch up” . “ NADA won't let me finance it.” That's, that's an inevitable thing. It's kinda like when market reports don't catch up and you've got a two, three, four week period where they can't catch up with the real market. So cars are bringing it to three g, four g over five, eight, ten G over, right. It's not unusual to see one bringing 10 G over whatever they brought 30, 60, and 90 days ago. And the thinner traded units. When you look at one, put it in Acc-trade, look to see where it was last year or the year before, two years ago. It's not unusual to see a 2017 that retailed for $49,000 in 2017, bring in $52 500 today, and a retail for less than three years ago.It's not unusual at all. Now, is it a shock?Is it like, well, “that's impossible. That's crazy. What are they going to do with that car” Pontificator.You can Watch Somebody else do Business, or You can do Business Well, what you'll do is you can watch somebody else do business, or you can do business. In other words right now. And it looks like, I mean, again, I'm not going to pontificate when new cars are showing up. When people started having inventory again. But I can tell you one thing, if you wanted to buy a new Rolls Royce, you couldn't find one. You want to know why? They're all gone. And you know, when they're getting more, never They're all going to China. So in other words, if you want one, you are going to have to pay up. So that means they could have retailed two years ago for X, but now it's going to wholesale for the same price.We see it over and over and over again. Now that don't mean one that's all hamburgered up chopped up, you know, wrapped and nine different people have owned it and that no, no, no, not, not that one. Cause that turns into a pure and absolute trashcan. So trashcans, aren't cars, trashcans are trashcans. Right. And some of them are on wheels,and that has a home. But it just ain't going to be the one where we're saying in the general marketplace that we're looking at right now. Like a human owned it, and it took care of it a little tiny bit. And now it shows back up in the marketplace and they bring too much money...if you're a pontificator. What they're actually bringing is market value. Does that make sense to you, Sean?Did you Pay too Much?So at your auction yesterday, when dealers were like paying up a little bit here or there on a car and the other guys are looking around, making goofy faces, like they're eating sour grapes or something.Did you hear that yesterday at all? Sean, in your auction?“You hear the crowd murmur”“Oh my God, how did he step on his thing? Oh my God, what's he doing?” Okay, I'll take exactly what he's going to do. It happens to us on a weekly basis, the car, it looks like it was brought like Mars type moonshot type money dealer says, “Jeezus, I paid a lot for that car.” Really? My answer always is, “could you please bring it back? I never would want you to pay...” “Oh no, I can't bring it back. I sold the b$t¢h.”So then the question becomes, did you pay too much? No, the answer is, of course you didn't pay too much. You paid arbitrage market value. Not Selling it to the BottomAnd you had enough brains to not sell it to the bottom of the three other cars that are maybe similar, maybe not.That you have to push a little. “So I can’t sell cars, if I can't be number one, number six of the ranking of 27, can't do it” So that's where you get to pontification. In other words, data and processes that cause brain freeze. And it also puts common sense on the back burner. And the minute you put common sense on the back burner you've actually committed intellectual suicide. So in other words, in our half knucklehead business that we're in right? “Only halfway educated people, you know. Could have been a drug dealer. If I wasn't a car dealer.” you know, the personality types, the “larceny” that's in everybody's heart and all the rest of it. Right? You can say all those pejorative things, right?But the fact is common sense really is central to anybody that you could point to and say, this is a guy that actually has what they're doing.Now, if you give the information that's necessary for those folks to make good decisions, you're actually filing their pencil down to be more effective. And the more effective they are, they don't spend time worrying about what somebody else is doing with the car because they're actually focused on not selling Macadam, not selling pavement.The Market OutlookWe're going to be in a tight market for the next, I'm going to say for sure, two months. It's probably going to be a four month period where we're back to the euphoria of last year's May, June, July, and August, where “there's no way this could ever keep going” because it was completely crazy. Right? But it kept going. Well, you know, in December, we started going back almost to reality and you know, the average sellers back to “no-saling” half or three quarters of their cars.But at this point, if you're presenting your stuff correctly at whatever level you're going to get surprisingly good money for your vehicles. It basically comes all the way back to - “how's the market?” The market is starving for inventory. Cater to Your Buyers Today I'll tell you the other thing that's happening right now, with these acquisition things, where you're gonna go on social media and you're going to FaceTime with the seller and you're going to do all kinds of things, right? That over the next month, two months, three months is going to actually rebound to the point where everybody's going to try to understand how:They're going to have their own buying center.Who's dedicated to paying off?Making sure it's a great experience?And get a good Yelp from the consumer that you bought the car from, that had a lack of equity.And now you're going to do all kinds of things and tricks to make sure he gets the car and he's happy. And he gives you a good review, right? That's going to be over the next month, two months, three months. That's all going to pop back up because as people say, I can't go to the auction and pay these prices. I can't do that. Digging into Service DriveThe only alternative would be to dig into your service drive.And we're not trying to over talk about what we have built for that to happen with the service drive tool and Accu-Trade, right?In other words, next level everything, when you're talking about how…

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